Why does my God allow children to die? Is he evil?

[JM2C]

That's the problem. When Christians are confronted with difficult questions, they just cop out, and resort back to the "you just gotta believe" bullcrap. I did believe...at one time. I am an ex-Christian. I lost belief in the Christian god after 15+ years of daily prayer to a god who wouldn't even bother to speak back. Seemed a bit more than coincidental to me.

You wanna be Moses? You want God to talk you personally? Moses never loose faith in God. You are an apostate.

 

[JM2C]

LOL! You leave out "YHVH doesn't exist," hence, no heaven, or hell.

These are just your "beliefs" - there is no proof.

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The proof of my belief is your unbelief.
I wonder why you wrote it like this "YHVH,"
You are just like this guy CG Didymus

Oh, and by the way, I'm not really calling the real God stupid.

Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Scared too huh

 

[JM2C]

Now I believe hell is really empty

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

You are an apostate.

Not my fault. It's kind of hard to have a personal relationship with someone you can't see or hear.

 

[JM2C]

Guys... I'm starting to think this guy is a "Poe's Law" fundamentalist.

Think all you want man.

 

[JM2C]

Not my fault. It's kind of hard to have a personal relationship with someone you can't see or hear.

Sure! Now who is copping out? Yeah, its not your fault, again, and again, its always God. Its always God’s fault why you are so weak. Yeah, blame it all on God.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Sure! Now who is copping out? Yeah, its not your fault, again, and again, its always God. Its always God’s fault why you are so weak. Yeah, blame it all on God.

It's my fault I can't see or hear him? Yeah okay.:sarcastic

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

When at first you don't believe, they try to preach you into believing.

When that fails, they try to sweet talk you into believing.

When that fails, they try to scare you into believing.

When that fails, they condemn and curse you.

But the offense given is not the offense of unbelief. The offense given is to actually have the audacity to not validate their belief.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

When at first you don't believe, they try to preach you into believing.

When that fails, they try to sweet talk you into believing.

When that fails, they try to scare you into believing.

When that fails, they condemn and curse you.

But the offense given is not the offense of unbelief. The offense given is to actually have the audacity to not validate their belief.

Tell me something I don't already know. The more desperate they get... the meaner and nastier they get.

 

[McBell]

I do, and this is not a brand or a trademark, its just a true Christian religion

Using a No true Scotsman does not make your bold empty claim anything more than a bold empty claim.

 

[McBell]

You got nothing but your own empty opinion coming from your own ignorance.

Yet you are the one who has clearly demonstrated you are not nearly as intelligent as you want others to think you are.

Your skills in transference, though impressive, are not going to help you outside your choir.

 

[McBell]

Talking about “imaginary friends”

Your ego with your three “medals” are your “imaginary friends” No actually they are your gods. Your belly is your god. How is that huh?

*yawn*
Your desperation is starting to show.

Interesting how must dictate to others their thoughts, opinions, beliefs, etc. in order to attack strawmen.

 

[McBell]

Scared too huh

You make the bold empty claim of others being "scared" yet they are not the ones making empty threats...

 

[McBell]

CG Didymus
Mestemia
Triumphant_Loser
Ingledsva


Now I believe hell is really empty

Your sad attempt at playing the martyr only reveals your desperation.

 

[JM2C]

Q#1. Oh, and speaking of robots, this is for RunJM2C, if we built a society of robots, you and I and the robots, and made rules for them to live by, wouldn't it be stupid to give them freewill to break those rules?

Q#2. Wouldn't it be stupid to think they wouldn't experiment and try and break the rules?

Q#3. And, once they broke the rules, and some of them were destroying some of the others, wouldn't it be stupid not to shut those ones down before they did more damage?

Q#4. And, since we knew from our computer which ones would chose to do evil, wouldn't we, ahead of time, stop them?

Q#5. Wouldn't we be stupid if we didn't do that?

Q#6. And if some evil mad scientist put a virus in them that caused them to do evil, wouldn't we stop that mad scientist?

Q#7. Wouldn't it be absolutely stupid to keep letting him corrupt our creation?

Q#8. If our number one rule was for them to love us with all their computer module and wiring, then why not reprogram them or disassemble them?

Q#9. Even if they cried, "Don't disassemble!" It would be in their best interest. They'd be happier. We'd get what we wanted. Will Smith wouldn't have to try and kill them before they killed us. It would prevent all sorts of evil, unless evil is what we wanted?

Nah, that would be stupid. Create something and let it go Q#10. all to hell and don't fix them?

That would really be stupid.

Say what…..what are you talking about? The man with too many question marks????????? And they all end with the word “stupid” or that would be his final answer.

Will Smith? How about Bill Gates he knows computer more than WS?

I know what’s gonna be your asnwer. “That would really be stupid.”

 

[JM2C]

Tell me something I don't already know. The more desperate they get... the meaner and nastier they get.

Desperate! You mean to say that I’m persuading you to become a Christian? I thought I was just responding to your post. You should read your post. Meaner and nastier?

 

[JM2C]

Your sad attempt at playing the martyr only reveals your desperation.

Yeah, all Christians are martyrs. Desperate? NO!

Just playing along with you guys…

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Your sad attempt at playing the martyr only reveals your desperation.

 

[JM2C]

Now you are speaking from ignorance.
You should go look up what a No True Scotsman is then read up on it until you understand why you are speaking from ignorance.

A vehicle that runs in petrol only is consider a “Vehicle” only and nothing else. Now, if you combine this “Vehicle” with “hydrogen generator” then it will become a “Semi-hybrid Vehicle” meaning it no longer runs in petrol only but with “hydrogen generator”.

What is a semi-hybrid Christian?

What is justification by faith alone?

Ro 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

As a Gentile, I became a Christian by faith alone in the Lord Jesus Christ “without the deeds of the law”. IOW, if I follow the Law of Moses after I was justified by faith alone then I become a “semi-hybrid Christian” or if I mix faith with any other traditions of men or doctrines invented by human mind then I become a “semi-hybrid Christian” IOW again, there is a True Christian and the semi-hybrid Christian.

What is a true Christian? A true Christian is very subjective and yet by means of doctrines, that is base in the bible and not by human traditions, it can be very objective.

IOW, by means of doctrines written in the bible, that a true Christian should follow, one can define a true Christian church from a semi-hybrid Christian church.

This person ask me about the gift of God.

What kind of gift is it to leave the people that are suffering here then?

Human are mortal meaning we have to die. A gift from God after death as a Christian is another life with God forever or immortal life. Once you are with God already your concerns here does not matter anymore.

And you sarcastically responded with

Sounds extremely self serving. Especially given the general anti attitude of Christians whe it comes to euthanasia...

Why is it considered "playing God" to remove someone from life support, but not considered "playing God" when artificially keeping someone alive?

And this was my answer and they are rightly related to your question.

Not really!

What I meant by “As a Christian death is a gift from God.” is the fear of death. Fear is an inhibiting and enslaving thing; and when people are gripped by the ultimate fear--the fear of death--they are in cruel bondage. Christ set us, Christians, free from the fear of death when he defeated satan on the cross.

Heb 2:14 Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—Jesus also became flesh and blood by being born in human form. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the Devil, who had the power of death.
Heb 2:15 Only in this way could he deliver those who have lived all their lives as slaves to the fear of dying.

I think you have a very big misconception of the word or the name “Christian”
You think Christians are more on politics than religion. Well, perhaps you should read more about the history of Christianity.

True Christians are different from other semi-Christians or semi-hybrid Christians.

And responded again with more intense of sarcasm,

Your No True Scotsman is also nothing more than a big steaming pile of self serving crap.

I have to wonder if using a big steaming pile of self serving bull **** as your strawman is the best you got..?

I was just following your premise with my conclusion which is completely related to your post or question.

Your no true Scotsman fallacy is a non sequitur. It does not relate nor follow in any way to my premise which you concluded with own ignorance about what a true Christian is all about, and that is, “Your No True Scotsman” conclusion. You read the word “true” and then applied the the “no true Scotsman” without even knowing why are you using it in the first place.

You cannot apply your no true Scotsman fallacy to something you have no knowledge about. True Christianity is something a true Christian only have the knowledge about because we have a basis for this knowledge and that is, the bible, which you have no knowledge at all, and by forcing yourself to answer such things you have knowledge at all makes you an ignorance of this matter. That was the reason I said, “Well, perhaps you should read more about the history of Christianity.”

It is harder to conceal ignorance than to acquire knowledge.

They gave you those three medals for being ignorant? edit that was a ? instead of a .

Read the bible before you argue.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

What is a true Christian? A true Christian is very subjective and yet by means of doctrines, that is base in the bible and not by human traditions, it can be very objective.

Exactly. That's why your "hybrid Christian" vs "true Christian" theory is a bit bizarre to us. Each branch of Christianity thinks it is the "true" form of Christianity, while thinking that the other branches are the "hybrids," if you will.

All of these human traditions that you speak of come from different interpretations of the same book, with particular emphasis on certain verses, depending on which dogma the Christian chooses to accept.

For example, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches use this verse to justify their belief in both faith and works: "Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only."~ James 2:24(KJV)

While Protestants use this verse to justify their belief in faith alone: "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast."~ Ephesians 2:8-9(KJV)

To me this is nothing more than a contradiction from a fallible book, but quite frankly that's for another thread. But as for Christians, they choose which one of these two to emphasize based the dogmas of their specific branch of Christianity.