HonestJoe
Well-Known Member
Why would anyone search for something without any external source or idea of if and how it might exist? Have you searched on your own accord for any gods beyond the one you already believe in?
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Why don’t you believe in God?
- Thread starter Jimmy
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mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Explain me this: If I have to search, but I can't use books and can't use other humans, because they have preconceived ideas, then what am I going to search?
But @Copernicus isn't wrong. You simply dismissed his statement and offered no explanation as to why you think he is wrong.
To rational minds the terms are critical thinking, and following evidence. This includes examining the self's own social/cultural experience and wht influence it has on the mind that is subconscious. Cultural norms are adopted by social exprience, and this includes ideas that are not factual or true objectively. Religion is inconsistent globally, and god concepts differ greatly. There are about 200 creator gods in human history, including the ods that created the Hawaian Islands. Critical thinkers can understand that these stories and beliefs are not true.
Yet you have no explanation how humans detect gods. This is a serious flaw in your case. It is some sort of extrasensory perception? You don't say. You can't refute the likelihood that what you think you detect is really just your mind inventing experiences. Humans create fantasies quite easily. An undisciplined mind that has anxiety may not only create a fantasy, but also deceve the self that it's real. We suspend reality when we want to. We do so when watching movies, and cry at the sad ending, or get scared when the killer is stalking the victim. It's just a movie, and we know it's all fake, yet we become emotonally absorbed and set aside our awareness of reality.
Yet you think you detect one, and can't explain how it's not imagined.
We don't know of any gods existing, but we do know humans can believe in unreal things.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Human curiosity. Oh yes I have searched and I have found.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I guess that’s what searching is all about.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
I feel ya
More non-response. This is why we can't take you seriously. Could it be you are in over your head, and don't really understand the criticisms of how and why you believe in gods? You can't explain how you believe is true and rational.
RestlessSoul
Well-Known Member
Where every search begins and ends? Within yourself...
“Your visions will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.”
― C.G. Jung
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Well, yes. But it is still happening in culture as far as I can tell. But I get the point.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yes, if you mean innner voice or to that effect, then no. I haven't deteched gods.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
Nah
PureX
Veteran Member
I'm actually OK with it as it is. You know that old saw about never meeting your heroes.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Oh there is a god, there are lots of them and the one we got is the smart aleck punk in 2nd year universe creation class.
She said I'm bored, never mind these Omni rules, I'm going to have fun and set up a universe to generate sentient beings who max out at an inkling of this experiment and saddle them with all sorts of random stuff and wait to see how long it takes them to either kill themselves off from arguing about the nature of gods or just realize that I don't care and what they make of their space is up to them.
It'll be fun to watch!!
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Like mysterious ways?
For me, I grew discontent with my parents religion so I tried various others and studied even more. I couldn't find one that satisfied my desire for truth. So I began a multi-year search for truth and I'm satisfied with my results.
McBell
Unbound
spelled the same?
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
Yeah, but the thread starter apparently left the thread and started a new one, as far as I can tell.
There are none. If there were, I'm sure they would be entertaining. The flat earthers are a hoot as well.
There is a forum for a band called the Pixies:
Yes, a skeptic and empiricist needs sufficient evidence to justify belief.
For an empiricist, yes.
And my point is that without that, the empiricist has no reason to believe that gods or any other insufficiently evidenced idea represents reality.
Yes. The benefit came from having no god belief and being content without one.
You seem to think that any kind of thinking a person chooses is just as valid as any other as if valid reasoning were subjective. If so, that's incorrect. It is also the kind of thinking that underlies the Dunning-Kruger phenomenon, as with, "That's just your opinion" said in response to a demonstrably correct argument.
Copernicus
Industrial Strength Linguist
I'm not sure why he started this one, since he didn't really seem interested in the answers. In any case, I'm going to remove it from my watch list, and I don't intend to try to engage him in his new threads.
Jimmy
King Phenomenon
What are those results?