Desert Snake
Veteran Member
. Seem like a angry anti-theist.
*SHRUGS*
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Why don't atheists seem like atheists?
- Thread starter Desert Snake
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I'm not an anti-theist. Disagreeing with most of your over-generalising and unsubstantiated posts doesn't make me one.
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Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Another quality post. Bravo, sir.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
1) Anti-theist is a subcategory of atheist.
2) An anti-theist is someone who believes that there is no God. The only action that defines an anti-theist is them making the statement "I believe there is no God", so if they don't make that statement explicitly you cannot assign them the label.
3) Being angry or frustrated with religious debates doesn't make you an anti-theist.
4) What, exactly, makes a person "seem like an atheist"? How do you expect atheists to act?
Only thing true about generalizations, such as 'All atheists are anti-theists,' is that they are always false.
By the evidence, many Theists are angry, distrustful, paranoid, and hateful toward not only atheist, but frequently simply those that believe in a different religion, or no religion.
From: Atheists remain most disliked religious minority in the U.S.
"Ten years ago University of Minnesota sociologists conducted research showing that, among a long list of racial and religious minority groups, atheists were the most disliked group of people in the United States. Last month they followed up with new research that shows that Americans still have negative opinions of atheists and the non-religious--and now they have a good theory about why that is.
Their findings are available online in the article “Atheists and Other Cultural Outsiders: Moral Boundaries and the Non-Religious in the United States” (Social Forces). The research team comprises Department of Sociology professors Penny Edgell, Douglas Hartmann, and Joseph Gerteis and graduate student Evan Stewart.
Survey data collected in 2014 shows that, compared to data collected in 2003, Americans have sharpened their negative views of atheists, despite an increase in people identifying as non-religious and an increase in public discussion of non-belief.
The findings of this most recent survey support the argument that atheists are persistent cultural outsiders in the United States because they are perceived to have rejected cultural values and practices understood as essential to private morality, civic virtue, and national identity. Moreover, any refusal to embrace a religious identity of any type is troubling for a large portion of Americans.
Forty percent of Americans view the non-religious--atheist, agnostic, no-religion, and spiritual-but-not-religious--as problematic, even though 33 percent of the survey respondents identify with those categories.
By the numbers, researchers found that:
- 40% of Americans disapprove of non-religion
- 33% of respondents fall into a broad “religious nones” category: 3.8% as atheist, 3.5% as agnostic, 7.1 % as “spiritual but not religious,” and 18.5% as “nothing in particular.”
- 27% of Americans say that atheists “don't share my morals or values.”
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Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Some are some arent. I mean, as a "theist" I loved being a Catholic. I always will. My beliefs shouldnt allow me to hate anyone I disagree with.
Dont know about others though. Ive noticed on the forums those who dislike theism and/or in faiths that are not theist were indoctrinated. Thats from observation, really.
Desert Snake
Veteran Member
Yes, though many, including many theists like Jehovah Witnesses, egocentrically deny their belief system is a religion.
The reality of the problem verified in the polls and avoiding foolish generalizations exists regardless of whether you call it a religion, or maybe make up some other 'polite euphemism' to suit your comfort zone,
Notanumber
A Free Man
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Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
I am not an atheist, but yes atheism is a consistent logical belief, but it does require the philosophical/theological assumption that God does not exist.
The existence of the 'hands on vindictive jealous Biblical God' is indeed problematic based on an ancient anthropomorphic world view.
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YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Most of us are far from angry. We don't care enough about the theistic viewpoints to get angry over them. That does not mean that conversing with various fanatical theists cannot be incredibly frustrating due to their intransigent, highly dogmatic, fixation.
Then, as a strong atheist, I run into the latest @shunyadragon post and am almost always impressed with his thinking.
Maybe I just recognize quality when I see it.
*SHRUGS*
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ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You're misusing semantics. If I asked someone "What is your favourite meat?" and they answered "I am a vegetarian", does that make vegetarianism a meat?
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Does that mean you think theism is okay?
Sure.
Jumi
Well-Known Member
What about atheistic religions or people who follow religions that are atheistic? Are they part of their religion or a part of this "atheism" religion that you propose.
Look for the meaning behind the words and you will understand why it's nonsensical to hang on to such things as if they were dictated definitions.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Good.