Why Dont Christians Accept the Book of Mormon as Valid?

[Watchmen]

And, how does that happen, exactly? By using our brains, perhaps? If the BOM is so important because it reveals God to us, and if that revelation comes through reading and understanding with our brains, I don't really understand where the warm, fuzzy feeling part comes in at that particular point.

I'm not a proponent of the "warm and fuzzy" feeling. I think the Spirit speaks truth to our minds. That's how Peter knew that Jesus was the Christ.

 

[Watchmen]

Actually, Revelations was the very last book written somewhere in the 90's AD. There are no companion books where the Bible is concerned. There is the Old & New Testament.

CHRIST fulfilled the Old Testament. The New Testament presents the MESSIAH and HIS role (that of redeeming sacrafice), and the establishment of CHRIST's CHURCH. The capstone is the prophetic end times warning of Revelations.

There is no need for any other messages. One either believes what has BEEN revealed or one does not.

Better check your facts. It's common knowledge that Revelation was not the last book written. John himself wrote other books after Revelation.

 

[Katzpur]

The book of mormon presents a story of men who are unrelated in any way to JESUS CHRIST. The ONLY commission JESUS CHRIST presented HIS disciples was the GREAT COMMISSION. That is to go unto all the world and spread the GOOD NEWS. There is nowhere, anywhere, in the Bible; verses calling people to read and pray about whether the Bible is true or not. There are no verses in the Bible calling peole to pray about whether GOD exists. The Bible speaks with authority and with the assumption that everything it states is totally true and matter of fact. The Bible is presumptious to a fault.

This is not at all true with regard to the book of mormon. I do not see the ancestors of CHRIST. The bom tries to reshade CHRIST as the establisher of ritualistic traditions. I find mormonism as the establishing of another form of Judaism and temple ritualism.

I do not see any of the freedom in Christ, but contrived works and fingers that point to HUMAN REWARDS and to which side of GOD one will sit in the "celestial" kingdom... And to why there are families and why get married if it isn't forever. Sorry, I do not see the REAL CHRIST in mormonism...

LittleNipper, before I even begin to address the fallacies in your logic, would you tell me please whether or not you have even read the Book of Mormon in its entirety. So many of your comments indicate that you haven't, and it seems pointless to me to try to argue with you on a topic you know nothing about.

 

[LittleNipper]

LittleNipper, before I even begin to address the fallacies in your logic, would you tell me please whether or not you have even read the Book of Mormon in its entirety. So many of your comments indicate that you haven't, and it seems pointless to me to try to argue with you on a topic you know nothing about.

I have read the Book of Mormon twice. My comments indicate that I'm not impressionable. I'm not looking to argue. I do enjoy debating though.:yes:

I so do love the city names of Zarahemla and Moronihah ----- where were they located? Thank GOD Philadelphia was named Philadelphia...

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

Why don't Christians accept the Book of Mormon to be true? It testifys of Christ our Savior, as the Messiah, the Great Mediator. And it's a solid Book, it has substance.

You don't believe there is any way that Christ would have appeared to his "Sheep of another fold" (mentioned in the bible) in the americas after his ressurection. Or that Both God and Christ would appear to a modern day prophet.

Yet, they believe that God, or even the "Mother Mary" would speak to 6 old women in Bosnia?

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you think the way you do.

As a Christian, worshipper of the Triune God consisting of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit... if I accepted the Book of Mormon to be true, then I no longer would worship to God found in the Bible. I do believe that the God revealed in the Bible is the One True God and all other gods are false idols of the heart. I guess I am entitled to my opinion, just like eveyone else on this Forum community.

 

[LittleNipper]

Better check your facts. It's common knowledge that Revelation was not the last book written. John himself wrote other books after Revelation.

According to early tradition, the writing of this book took place near the very end of Domitian's reign, around 95 or 96. All the other books of the New Testament wer written prior to that...

 

[sarahjane127]

As I was taught in the lutheran school has to do with Joseph Smith. There has been no significance to him the the Christian religions which is why they do not accept it. It is all opinion I guess. Could a christian accept it? Sure. It all depends on what you believe.

 

[sojourner]

Actually, Revelations was the very last book written somewhere in the 90's AD.

Dating Biblical texts is somewhat more liquid than you give it credit for here. John's gospel may have been written after the year 100, for example. If you're sure that Revelation was the last book written, you're the only one who is.

There are no companion books where the Bible is concerned. There is the Old & New Testament.

What about the extra-canonicals? What about the Apocryphal books? What about the gospels that were not included in the canon? What about the Didache?

Without fully trusting in CHRIST and CHRIST alone, there is no other way of salvation.

I don't want to reopen this can of worms, but I think you're dead-dog wrong about that.

The African slaves were captured and enslaved by Africans and then sold to England and the Americas. I believe that you will find that many slave traders were very rugged individuals who really didn't think about church much, themselves, nor their fellow man. Go see the movie Amazing Grace.

This doesn't address my point. The Christian slave owners regularly beat and overworked their slaves. That's better than being an African pagan???

Religion saves no man. Only a personal relationship with GOD through CHRIST by way of the HOLY SPIRIT will save anyone.

Y'know what? That's a religion...

 

[sojourner]

I'm not a proponent of the "warm and fuzzy" feeling. I think the Spirit speaks truth to our minds. That's how Peter knew that Jesus was the Christ.

That's fine, but Peter had Jesus standing right in front of him. We do not. We encounter Jesus by reading or hearing, and understanding the words. There's a lot of brain power that goes into that activity.

 

[sojourner]

According to early tradition, the writing of this book took place near the very end of Domitian's reign, around 95 or 96. All the other books of the New Testament wer written prior to that...

According to early Tradition, Moses wrote Genesis, too. But we know that's not true.

 

[Watchmen]

That's fine, but Peter had Jesus standing right in front of him. We do not. We encounter Jesus by reading or hearing, and understanding the words. There's a lot of brain power that goes into that activity.

But it wasn't the physical Jesus that convinced Peter. The scripture expressly states it was the Spirit of the Father.

 

[lockyfan]

According to early Tradition, Moses wrote Genesis, too. But we know that's not true.

How do you know thats not true?
If written by MOses it shows Gods Holy Sprit was with him when he wrote it, thuis it was inspried of God

 

[idea]

I'm not a proponent of the "warm and fuzzy" feeling. I think the Spirit speaks truth to our minds. That's how Peter knew that Jesus was the Christ.

different means for different people. Yes, the Spirit can speak truth to our minds, the spirit can envelope us in a warmth, their power overflowing into every pore of your body. You can see visions, you can hear the voice of the Spirit, there are many different means of communication.

1 AND when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the aHoly Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
(New Testament | Acts 2:1 - 6)

We all hear it in our own language.

 

[idea]

As a Christian, worshipper of the Triune God consisting of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit... if I accepted the Book of Mormon to be true, then I no longer would worship to God found in the Bible. I do believe that the God revealed in the Bible is the One True God and all other gods are false idols of the heart. I guess I am entitled to my opinion, just like eveyone else on this Forum community.

The Triune God is not taught in the Bible, but perhaps that is another thread.

YouTube - Mormon Christian Debate - Mormons are Christians

Godhead and the Trinity - FAIRMormon

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

The Triune God is not taught in the Bible, but perhaps that is another thread.

YouTube - Mormon Christian Debate - Mormons are Christians

Godhead and the Trinity - FAIRMormon

Well, I'm just responding to the OP. The author made a very clear distinction between Mormons and Christians, didn't he? I think you will find historic Christianity including Orthodox, Catholics, and Protestants believe in the Triune God revealed in the Bible. Maybe the Book of Mormon is needed to reject the doctrine of the Trinity? Here is the OP again. And it sure seems the author of this post identifies himself as a Mormon and not a Christian. Therefore, Christians historically and universally have worshipped the Triunie God. And maybe Mormons do not worship the Triune God? You can come to this conclusion: if you are a Christian and worship the One True Triune God, then you will reject the Book of Mormon.

Why don't Christians accept the Book of Mormon to be true? ...

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why you think the way you do.

 

[Katzpur]

I have read the Book of Mormon twice.

Okay, then what on earth led you to believe that the people in the Book of Mormon were supposed to be ancestors of Jesus Christ?

 

[Katzpur]

As a Christian, worshipper of the Triune God consisting of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit... if I accepted the Book of Mormon to be true, then I no longer would worship to God found in the Bible. I do believe that the God revealed in the Bible is the One True God and all other gods are false idols of the heart. I guess I am entitled to my opinion, just like eveyone else on this Forum community.

Yes, Fish, you are entitled to your opinion, regardless of how bigoted it may be. I accept the Book of Mormon to be true precisely because it teaches me to worship the God found in the Bible.

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

I think I'm going to love this thread! It seems this may lead to a dog and cat fight... just kidding.

 

[Katzpur]

I think I'm going to love this thread! It seems this may lead to a dog and cat fight... just kidding.

Yeah, I just love to play with my food before I devour it. I have a feeling this meal is going to make me throw up, though.

 

[Christian Pilgrim]

ah, but the gold plates were not "sent down" they were buried in a hillside 1500 years or so before they were found again.

And where are those golden plates now? Would it be possible to see the evidence of them today?