Plagiarism is dishonest. Cite your sources.
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Why exactly is Satan bad?
- Thread starter Eddi
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As was stated to you ... you are welcome to call Sataniel by the name Adversary if you like.. This does not change the fact that the term Ha Satan in Job is a Title and not a name.
The definite Article in Hebrew does not proceed a name --- Jacob is not referred to as "The Jacob"
The claim that "the supplanter" is a title in the context of Job is ridiculous made up false nonsense ..
I gave you the source .. Wiki .. then provided you with another source Michael Heiser.
Running around crying Plagiarism is the dishonesty going on here.
Does your post #253 quote Wikipedia without citing the source?
Let's look again ...
I think Jesus wouldn’t agree with you as He call Satan by his name when he said, “Get the behind me, Satan”.
I prefer the point of view that Jesus has
In this case, as we both look at the same scriptures, you are right!You wish
Ciao
- viole
There are links to the source in the citation itself ... why are you obsessing over this silliness ? Ha Satan = "The Satan" .. Wiki is the source
You were also given another source ... Michael Heiser and link to a video detailing the in's and outs of Ha Satan
Pull head out of the fallacious rabbit hole and address the topic J ?!
I think Jesus wouldn’t agree with you as He call Satan by his name when he said, “Get the behind me, Satan”.
The NT has nothing to do with the Nature of Ha Satan in Job .. The people who wrote and were reading Job .. had no idea of Jesus in the New Testiment or the Greek Satan Jesus was speaking of.
That settled -- your fresh claims are deeply flawed... You have no Idea if Jesus throught the term used to describe the tester in Job was a Job Description - A Name - or Both.
Jesus saying "Get behind me Adversary" or "One who tests Me" .. is not saying a name at all.
Further .. the Tester in Job .. who seems to be the same God who tested Jesus in the wilderness .. is not necessarily the same entity Jesus is referring to .. but .. even if this is the case .. calling Peter an Adversary .. likening Peter to the one who tested him in the wilderness .. is not saying that the name of this God is Adversary. It is still being used as a title.
- Were I obsessed, I would have reported the plagiarism.
- Were I concerned about silliness, I would have simply ignored you.
paarsurrey
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stvdv
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Thank you for the list
I have never seen Satan, Devil, hence Satan as a separate entity seems not to exist
I have seen people exhibiting acts attributed to Satan, so these I could call "little satans", right? At least I have proof of "little satans" disguised in human form
So, if you call "Big Satan" the sum total of "little Satans" then I agree Big Satan does exist
jhonsteve111
Member
Satan, along with his demons, is real. I once faced a powerful demon that I managed to defeat, but it was a tough battle. Throughout my life, I've experienced attacks from dark spirits, around twenty times, with two being very serious. Yet, as I walk through the darkest moments, I find comfort knowing I am not alone. Evil comes to steal, kill, and destroy; it lies and brings harm. But I hold onto my faith, believing I can overcome these challenges.
muhammad_isa
Veteran Member
Yes .. evil is very powerful .. it can consume us .. remembrance of God can save us from
the worst.
paarsurrey
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stvdv
Veteran Member
That's simple, IMHO:
Religions are created by humans
Clearly they are all about "Big Religion"
And also all about "Big Brother & Big Business"
Which is quite obvious from these points:
1) Claim "my Religion is better than yours"
2) Introduction of God + Satan
Well known concept "Divide and Conquer"
Satan is nothing more than sum total of all the wharped human minds + words + actions
You ask "why is Satan bad?"
Well, Abrahamics are fond of the dualism "good vs bad", hence they created "Satan is bad", vs "God is good"
You ask "why is Satan the enemy?"
Again, Abrahamics are full of the dualism "friend vs enemy"...as they created God being the friend, they naturally created Satan being the enemy.
Note:
This God vs Satan is not just in Abrahamics Scripture, it can also be found in Dharmic Scriptures. So, this proves that it's just some human concepts describing human their inhumane thoughts, words and actions
What is good about all of this?
Well, obviously human behavior can improve a lot, according to the general consensus. First step is to do introspection, meaning "stop creating and pointing at others (Satan), and start doing introspection". Plenty to work on (oneself), no time to waste on Satan IF your goal is to improve yourself, realize your Self
That is how I see the "Satan Story" and answer the "Satan Questions"
jhonsteve111
Member
Yes... I pray to God almost all day to please save me from the evil and devil people in the universe because there are several people who are good on face but they are devils and want to eat us.
Wrong. Have you seen the Father?