syo
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Then, humans are evil. And UGLY.What went on in Auschwitz. That was evil. Devilish.
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Then, humans are evil. And UGLY.What went on in Auschwitz. That was evil. Devilish.
Not all of them.Then, humans are evil. And UGLY.
A large number of people collaborated to create auschwitz. it's UGLY, I say.Not all of them.
So many humans are angels. Others can be pretty bad, like the perpetrators in Auschwitz.
A large number of people fought the people who built Auschwitz and defeated them.A large number of people collaborated to create Auschwitz. it's UGLY, I say.
? What are you talking about?A large number of people fought the people who built Auschwitz and defeated them.
Even were that true, it wouldn't matter. If there is a Christian style god, then every non human event that causes suffering is an evil action by that god.Why does He allow evil?
That is the mantra that several, not to say many, atheists usually point out, whenever they want to underline the Christian doctrine contradictions.
Why does He do that? Because He is not a dictator.
God's Order is not any different than politics.
There is the party of Good, led by Jesus. And there is the party of evil, led by Satan.
There are Jesus' servants and there are Lucifer's servants. They belong to two different parties.
As Matthew 13,49 says, the wicked and the just. The first fight for the sake of good, the second for the sake of evil.
So if He were a dictator, He would prevent evil people from having a say.
He would prevent them from joining "politics". From doing evil.
He does not do that because
1) He is not a dictator
2) He respects people's free will
3) He hopes they can choose the party of Good by themselves
It is Satan that would like to be a dictator by killing all the good people, and ruling Earth with his wicked politicians .
But he is not allowed to do that. He is forced to respect democracy, as God does.
Yes we do what we can to prevent evil but it sounds like you want God to step in all the time, and that would be a lot, so that nobody would be able to do anything evil.
It is interesting in God's case that His way of working towards overcoming all the evil in the universe was to become a man and allow humans to torture Him to death when He was innocent of any wrong doing, and not retaliating.
But given that it clearly didn’t fix evil, why pat God on the back for repeated failures?It is interesting in God's case that His way of working towards overcoming all the evil in the universe was to become a man and allow humans to torture Him to death when He was innocent of any wrong doing, and not retaliating.
But slaughtering Jepthah’s daughter is okay?One of the rituals of the Baal worshipers was to drive children and infants through fire.
So Jesus is a hypocrite.That is not that merciful. That shows great mercilessness towards God's enemies.
And then convinced Jews to relocate to Israel because they still didn’t want Jews there.A large number of people fought the people who built Auschwitz and defeated them.
Jephthah made an oath to God.But slaughtering Jepthah’s daughter is okay?
You are missing Kelly's point. It's not about Jephthah's oath. It's about the fact that God knowingly and intentionally accepted a human sacrifice.Jephthah made an oath to God.
In these times oaths had same significance as contracts today, nobody ever broke their oaths.
It's not true that God "intentionally" accepted sacrifice as if God told Jephath to swear.You are missing Kelly's point. It's not about Jephthah's oath. It's about the fact that God knowingly and intentionally accepted a human sacrifice.
Do you have some reasoning behind that? Or is it just a bare and irrational "Nuh uh"?It's not true that God "intentionally" accepted sacrifice as if God told
Have you actually read the passage around which this discussion is about?Do you have some reasoning behind that? Or is it just a bare and irrational "Nuh uh"?
In the OT scriptures God is intensely involved in Israel as the Suzerain ruler, the King and God and had promised to be with Israel and take care of them if they followed the law and did not reject Him as their God, and that He also would punish them if they did reject Him and ignore the law.
Maybe you know all this already but just reject it because of your naturalistic suppositions.
I wouldn't call Christian Science a Christian denomination.
I do believe God answers prayer however.
But given that it clearly didn’t fix evil, why pat God on the back for repeated failures?