Why have Islamic nations been so easy to corrupt?

[dust1n]

Hello. I just wanted some varied opinions from all you crazy kids out there.

Whether it be UK, or America, Russia, Saudi Arabia... why are so many countries so easily corrupted by the Western influences that are often being claim to be fought?

I noticed this issue where the West is identified as the cause of some problem in the ME (which has, no doubt, happened in various ways and times), but there seems to be a bit a disagreement about how much "West" is influencing even given region.

So then my question is, why has it been so easy for Islamic nations to be manipulated from outside forces.

I'm just curious as to what all the possible answer might be. Thanks.

 

[NoX]

Nice question but this is not a religious matter of debate, this is something directly related with politics.

 

[fantome profane]

Nice question but this is not a religious matter of debate, this is something directly related with politics.

lol There's a difference?

 

[dust1n]

Nice question but this is not a religious matter of debate, this is something directly related with politics.

Seeing how Islam is a religion that dictates elaborately how politics is to be conducted, I'd say they are pretty related.

 

[dust1n]

Oh, um, if an admin wants to fix the title, "has" should be "have."

 

[Sees]

Oh, um, if an admin wants to fix the title, "has" should be "have."

Not admin but I love ya

 

[NoX]

Seeing how Islam is a religion that dictates elaborately how politics is to be conducted, I'd say they are pretty related.

The structure of Islam is not the matter here, the matter is not whether Islam related with politics , the matter is your question and its about politics

 

[FearGod]

Oh, um, if an admin wants to fix the title, "has" should be "have."

I thought we only have problems with English grammar.

 

[FearGod]

Hello. I just wanted some varied opinions from all you crazy kids out there.

Whether it be UK, or America, Russia, Saudi Arabia... why are so many countries so easily corrupted by the Western influences that are often being claim to be fought?

I noticed this issue where the West is identified as the cause of some problem in the ME (which has, no doubt, happened in various ways and times), but there seems to be a bit a disagreement about how much "West" is influencing even given region.

So then my question is, why has it been so easy for Islamic nations to be manipulated from outside forces.

I'm just curious as to what all the possible answer might be. Thanks.

I think that has no relation to Islam but to the strength of the country, let me explain it to you with a medical example.

Our body can fight germs and viruses if in case that our body defense is working well(the immune system), but imagine if the HIV entered our bodies and weakened our defense system, our body will start losing control and the weaker germs will start doing the corruption.

 

[dust1n]

I thought we only have problems with English grammar.

Oh, happens all the time with me. I usually start writing a sentence, and then change me mind and go back to write something different, but then I will miss the one word, etc.

 

[dust1n]

The structure of Islam is not the matter here, the matter is not whether Islam related with politics , the matter is your question and its about politics

Then allow me to rephrase my question.

Why has corrupting specific Muslims at leadership positions in various Islamic countries been so easy?

 

[dust1n]

I think that has no relation to Islam but to the strength of the country, let me explain it to you with a medical example.

Our body can fight germs and viruses if in case that our body defense is working well(the immune system), but imagine if the HIV entered our bodies and weakened our defense system, our body will start losing control and the weaker germs will start doing the corruption.

I think the analogy here is apt. In terms of countries, are you anywhere of anything that might bolster or weaken the "immune system" of a country?

 

[NoX]

Then allow me to rephrase my question.

Why has corrupting specific Muslims at leadership positions in various Islamic countries been so easy?

Actually its not easy to corrupt a real Muslim, but those who are prone to be corrupted been received huge financial support and lobby supports from some other countries You see, your question should be in political section of the forum. Even if I try to stay out of politics, I cant reply it without going into politics.

 

[gsa]

I think the outside influence is overstated. Islamic nations are corrupted by their own elites and religious leaders, who use the religion just like our Christian fundamentalists use it here in the United States.

But Islamic states do love to blame the West for their problems.

 

[dust1n]

Actually its not easy to corrupt a real Muslim, but those who are prone to be corrupted been received huge financial support and lobby supports from some other countries You see, your question should be in political section of the forum. Even if I try to stay out of politics, I cant reply it without going into politics.

Is there an example you have in mind of a corrupted real Muslim?

 

[NoX]

Is there an example you have in mind of a corrupted real Muslim?

There cant be such a thing as "corrupted real Muslim", no real Muslim would be corrupted. Also you dont have to be a Muslim, no person with a bit honor would betrays his/her nation or country.

 

[gsa]

There cant be such a thing as "corrupted real Muslim", no real Muslim would be corrupted. Also you dont have to be a Muslim, no person with a bit honor would betrays his/her nation or country.

Right, "no true Muslim" again...

 

[dust1n]

I think the outside influence is overstated. Islamic nations are corrupted by their own elites and religious leaders, who use the religion just like our Christian fundamentalists use it here in the United States.

But Islamic states do love to blame the West for their problems.

It's had to gauge outside influence. It's ambiguous and doesn't just entail the West. And of course, there are many Islamic areas with distinct histories and concerns. But it does seem like a corrupt politician in can maintain relative power by deferring problems to "The West."

 

[dust1n]

There cant be such a thing as "corrupted real Muslim", no real Muslim would be corrupted. Also you dont have to be a Muslim, no person with a bit honor would betrays his/her nation or country.

Oh I see. When you said that it wasn't easy to corrupt a true Muslim, you actually meant it's impossible to corrupt a true Muslim?

 

[dust1n]

Right, "no true Muslim" again...

It is interesting to me. I mean, if you can convince someone that you are true Muslim, then you have implicitly convinced that you are incorruptible, if people believe a true Muslim can't be corrupted.