why homosexualy and homosexual marriage is so wrong

[The Hammer]

You must not be familiar with government...

It was the punchline from an engineering joke... -_-

 

[Salvador]

Let me clue you in on some fundamental biological realities: HIV does not miraculously generate itself in the process of having anal sex, or any other form of sex. HIV is a virus that has to be transmitted from someone carrying it to another person who is not carrying it.

We also can't agree that bodies are designed, because they are not designed. They are shaped by natural forces over deep time, in the process of natural selection.

Perhaps soulless animals follow the laws of natural selection. However, I believe that we as descendants of Adam and Eve are given a soul by God who wants us to follow His laws instead of blindly following the laws of natural selection.

 

[gsa]

Perhaps soulless animals follow the laws of natural selection. However, I believe that we as descendants of Adam and Eve are given a soul by God who wants us to follow His laws instead of blindly following the laws of natural selection.

As I have said elsewhere, this is essentially an admission that one has no argument. Adam and Eve are mythical, nonexistent people who, if they happened to exist and were imbued with a soul, behave and act as the animals that they are, as do "their" descendants. We are not blindly following anything; we understand why things function, how they got that way, through natural selection. It is an explanatory and descriptive fact, not a moral law.

 

[SkepticThinker]

@LuisDantas look at the examples u are using. I was only talking about Homosexuality and Lesbians.
I believe from religious and also from hetero point of view that it is unnatural. It makes no sense for an adopted child to say: Hello dad & dad!
Or to lesbian parents: mom&mom!
Sorry if i hurted lesbians/gays on the forum, but it just make no sense to me. Thats all.

Sure it is. My 2 year old little cousin says it to both of her mothers every day of her life, quite easily.

 

[truthofscripture]

Irrelevant. Science, as we know it, has only existed a few hundred years. Many cultures, independently of each other, concluded the earth is just "hanging" in space; many observed, correctly, that the earth is not the center of the solar system and the earth revolves around the sun, unlike the Bible, which holds the Earth is fixed, unmoving, and that the sun revolves around the earth (which, by default, puts the earth at the center of the solar system). As for water, the Bible gives us a description that is no different that a tribal Pagan rain-dance, where it is understood that rain comes from god, rather than from water, vapor, pressure, and the other things we know today cause rain. The Koran (since you did not specify which scripture you are referring to) gives us an entirely non-existing barrier that prevents salt-and-fresh water from mixing, even though the two do mix, and an understanding of the sea that would have been less than the knowledge a sea-fairing Germanic child would have had.
As for "science" in the Bible, what is prescribes for the cure for leprosy is utter insanity and needless cruelty. The Bible also tells us the Earth has stood still, without the sun even moving its location in the sky, even though we know this simply cannot happen without a massive shock occurring to the earth.

Many cultures may have concluded what you posted, but there isn't any evidence of that until about 3 to 4 hundred years ago. The Bible does NOT say the Earth remains unmoving. Tribal pagan rain dance? You are reaching there. The scriptures describe the rain, evaporation, clouds, rain again cycle quite well, and LONG before any record existed anywhere else about this cycle. The Quran was written LONG after the inspired word of God the Almighty. Were you a sea-faring Germanic child who can state those things from personal experience, or are you speculating? It seems you are sprculating indeed. The Bible does not indicate any cure for leprosy, other than Jesus' curing of lepers. It, in the Law Covenant, describes how to prevent others from being infected. What you state about the Earth sitting still, was brief, and was caused by God for a specific purpose, and only once. Your refutation of the scientific evidence in the scriptures is not very credible or accurate. Sorry, but nice try. The scriptures are also filled with medical advice for mental and physical health. Information previously unavailable, and not available outside of the scriptures for close to two thousand years. Further proof of it's inspiration by other than human sources.

 

[Marisa]

Sure it is. My 2 year old little cousin says it to both of her mothers every day of her life, quite easily.

Amazing that I missed the part you quoted. Servent is essentially stating that he doesn't understand how genitalia dictates societal norms regarding gender descriptions. That one's own genitalia (generally) determines one's pronoun descriptor, not the genitalia of one's partner. This isn't the first time I've heard this argument, and it never ceases to ferhoodle me.

 

[Ingledsva]

I believe that God designed a man's privates to be compatible with a woman's private part. Furthermore, I believe that God did not design a man's privates to be compatible with an exit point for fecal matter. I think we all can agree that there is a certain point of the body that is designed to be an exit point for excrement rather than an entry point for a penis. Also, dirty sex causes HIV/AIDs. I think God wants everybody to take care of his body which is a temple that houses his soul.

OH DUDE! LOL! Get out a medical or science book, and look up HIV/AIDS!

It is NOT caused by getting poop on oneself, - or all baby boys would have HIV/AIDS before they got out of dippers! LOLOLOLOL!

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[truthofscripture]

OH DUDE! LOL! Get out a medical or science book, and look up HIV/AIDS!

It is NOT caused by getting poop on oneself, - or all baby boys would have HIV/AIDS before they got out of dippers! LOLOLOLOL!

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It would take a little research, but there are scriptures that do specifically say that the genitalia of men and women are to be used for copulating, and any other use is termed abhorrent and unclean, and unnatural. I will look for them.

 

[Skwim]

please define a troll

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people,by posting inflammatory,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

 

[Ingledsva]

It would take a little research, but there are scriptures that do specifically say that the genitalia of men and women are to be used for copulating, and any other use is termed abhorrent and unclean, and unnatural. I will look for them.

Which has what exactly to do with poop causing HIV/AIDS?

You go ahead and look for those verses.

I could help by posting the ones you folks always try to use, - and that I have to shoot down, - but I won't.

I'll let you find the ones you want to use - and then shoot them down again.

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[Shadow Wolf]

The Bible does not indicate any cure for leprosy

With that statement it is painfully obvious that your reading of the Bible is incomplete.

 

[truthofscripture]

With that statement it is painfully obvious that your reading of the Bible is incomplete.

Sorry, but that is quite impossible. The only cures mentioned are the ones that Jesus performed, or that holy spirit annointed apostles/disciples performed. As far as your absurd claim that my reading of the scriptures is incomplete, you couldn't be further from the truth. I've read the scriptures cover to cover twice a year for over 40 years, and studied the scriptures, sentence by sentence, word for word, comparing each scripture to each other scripture, and comparing the translations to original texts, for over 40 years. I am certain that my "completeness" of scriptural reading and studying is more than likely much greater than your own, based on your posts.

 

[gsa]

Sorry, but that is quite impossible. The only cures mentioned are the ones that Jesus performed, or that holy spirit annointed apostles/disciples performed. As far as your absurd claim that my reading of the scriptures is incomplete, you couldn't be further from the truth. I've read the scriptures cover to cover twice a year for over 40 years, and studied the scriptures, sentence by sentence, word for word, comparing each scripture to each other scripture, and comparing the translations to original texts, for over 40 years. I am certain that my "completeness" of scriptural reading and studying is more than likely much greater than your own, based on your posts.

You clearly haven't read Leviticus.

 

[truthofscripture]

You clearly haven't read Leviticus.

I have, hundreds of times. And studied it hundreds of times. So there is nothing "clearly" about it.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Sorry, but that is quite impossible. The only cures mentioned are the ones that Jesus performed, or that holy spirit annointed apostles/disciples performed. As far as your absurd claim that my reading of the scriptures is incomplete, you couldn't be further from the truth. I've read the scriptures cover to cover twice a year for over 40 years, and studied the scriptures, sentence by sentence, word for word, comparing each scripture to each other scripture, and comparing the translations to original texts, for over 40 years. I am certain that my "completeness" of scriptural reading and studying is more than likely much greater than your own, based on your posts.

You are obviously bearing false witness because it is obvious that you have not read Leviticus, and if you did, you didn't pay very close attention to it.

 

[truthofscripture]

You are obviously bearing false witness because it is obvious that you have not read Leviticus, and if you did, you didn't pay very close attention to it.

You are incorrect.

 

[Kirran]

Good lord, this thread is still alive.

Such a blast from the past.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You are incorrect.

I seem to recall something about sprinkling the blood of a dove on someone to "cleanse" them. Spreading disease is all that is good for.

 

[Nietzsche]

Sorry, but that is quite impossible. The only cures mentioned are the ones that Jesus performed, or that holy spirit annointed apostles/disciples performed. As far as your absurd claim that my reading of the scriptures is incomplete, you couldn't be further from the truth. I've read the scriptures cover to cover twice a year for over 40 years, and studied the scriptures, sentence by sentence, word for word, comparing each scripture to each other scripture, and comparing the translations to original texts, for over 40 years. I am certain that my "completeness" of scriptural reading and studying is more than likely much greater than your own, based on your posts.

I'm going to link you to Leviticus 14:2-52. I'm going to expect an apology from you to them, as well.

Leviticus 14:2-52(NIV)

And now, I will list the steps themselves;

Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird’s blood. Wipe some blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird’s blood. Wipe some blood on the patient’s right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times.

Birds, blood, thumbs, and toes, I for one am glad we have moved on from that and know today that there are many blood-born pathogens and the tiny cracks and splits around the nails of our fingers and toes are a very good way to contract those pathogens.