why homosexualy and homosexual marriage is so wrong

[truthofscripture]

Transgenderism and transsexualism have nothing to do with sexual orientation.

Truthfully, I don't care.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Truthfully, I don't care.

Yes, I know you don't care about facts. I was just putting that out there.

 

[truthofscripture]

Yes, I know you don't care about facts. I was just putting that out there.

You know no such thing.

 

[McBell]

No laws are legislated to be broken. Disobeying God has it's consequences. The choice is yours.

Bold empty threat

 

[McBell]

You know no such thing.

Then you deserve an Academy Award for your performance

 

[Marisa]

God's Law serves the purpose of identifying who will sin (breaking laws) in the future realm (called heaven). If you choose to violate God's Law, it means that you are unqualified to live a future life in heave with God who is completely incompatible with sin. Law is thus a definition of what God dislikes very much. Breaking Law means it's not suitable for you to live with Him in a forever realm. To put it in an even simpler form, God listed what He dislike the most in His Law, it's not ok for an offender (who is unwilling to repent to God by breaking his Law) to live in a realm with Him. So if you think that breaking His Law is ok, then you can't live with Him in a forever realm. You have to leave away from Him forever instead.

Okay by me. I tend to only want to be around people who enjoy the same things I do, too.

 

[Marisa]

The human has the ability to control their sexual actions. They can also change their sexual orientation. The same way a temperamental person can change and become a calmer person. It might take time and lots of effort. With lots of psychotherapy.

I work in a psychology practice. The APA has condemned reparative therapy because it does more damage to the patient than simply being gay, assuming the gay person isn't repeatedly subjected to tripe like the above. No insurance company will certify a psychologist who practices reparative therapy. My suggestion is that if you're concerned with people's mental health, stop telling them that they are unacceptable to you.

 

[Marisa]

Truthfully, I don't care.

Then why should you be accepted as an authority on this subject?

 

[newone]

The bible is clear on God's view about acting on homosexual impulses though...

You must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman.It is a detestable thing.”—Leviticus 18:22.

Also "unnatural" sexual acts between a man and woman even within a marriage is not allowed...

This is what the bible says...

God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves in to one contrary to nature; and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene.”—Romans 1:26, 27.

 

[Marisa]

The bible is clear on God's view about acting on homosexual impulses though...

You must not lie down with a male the same as you lie down with a woman.It is a detestable thing.”—Leviticus 18:22.

Also "unnatural" sexual acts between a man and woman even within a marriage is not allowed...

This is what the bible says...

God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves in to one contrary to nature; and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene.”—Romans 1:26, 27.

If we are natural beings, then what we do is natural. Why would I pay a moment's attention to anyone who says I'm detestable? That would damage my self esteem, potentially irreparably.

 

[truthofscripture]

God's Law serves the purpose of identifying who will sin (breaking laws) in the future realm (called heaven). If you choose to violate God's Law, it means that you are unqualified to live a future life in heave with God who is completely incompatible with sin. Law is thus a definition of what God dislikes very much. Breaking Law means it's not suitable for you to live with Him in a forever realm. To put it in an even simpler form, God listed what He dislike the most in His Law, it's not ok for an offender (who is unwilling to repent to God by breaking his Law) to live in a realm with Him. So if you think that breaking His Law is ok, then you can't live with Him in a forever realm. You have to leave away from Him forever instead.

Nowhere in the scriptures does it say what you've posted. Only a limited number, 144,000, will go to heaven. The rest of us have a chance of living in a paradise Earth only if we are righteous. The law covenant ended with Jesus' death. There is no "living together with Him in a heaven realm". That is a made up dogma and is not true.

 

[truthofscripture]

If we are natural beings, then what we do is natural. Why would I pay a moment's attention to anyone who says I'm detestable? That would damage my self esteem, potentially irreparably.

What is natural is what our creator says is natural. He did create us.

 

[sojourner]

What is the meaning to use someone's religion's moral to judge others if the others don't believe in that religion?

Religion's moral is universal fact to everyone? Which religion decides/rules everyone?

Darn good questions!

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What happened to the biological definition? The act of penetration between man and woman. Sexual intercourse - Medical Definition and More from Merriam-Webster

Men/Men and Women/Woman cant penetrate each other by natural intercourse (can't have sex with each other).

As with God, God doesn't mention about two men or two women loving (not lusting) each other (not just by flesh as scripture dictates). The intent and focus of His dissatisfaction is the lust any two or more people have through sexual gratification.

If gay and lesbian individuals do not fall into this category of lust, where is it against scripture? Is there a verse that talks specific about the sinful relationship and love between two men and two women or does it just relate it to sexual impurity?

Merriam-Webster defines sex as "An act performed with another for sexual gratification." So, apparently, by definition, men can and do have sex with each other. Same for women.
God has never definitively said one thing against homosexuality or homosexual love.

 

[Marisa]

What is natural is what our creator says is natural. He did create us.

That hasn't been sufficiently established, and thus is dismissable as opinion.

 

[truthofscripture]

What happened to the biological definition? The act of penetration between man and woman. Sexual intercourse - Medical Definition and More from Merriam-Webster

Men/Men and Women/Woman cant penetrate each other by natural intercourse (can't have sex with each other).

As with God, God doesn't mention about two men or two women loving (not lusting) each other (not just by flesh as scripture dictates). The intent and focus of His dissatisfaction is the lust any two or more people have through sexual gratification.

If gay and lesbian individuals do not fall into this category of lust, where is it against scripture? Is there a verse that talks specific about the sinful relationship and love between two men and two women or does it just relate it to sexual impurity?

It refers to misuse of the sexual organs. The only acceptable use of them is a married man and woman having intercourse. This does not mean that anal sex is acceptable, or oral sex either. The scriptures paint a very narrow description of acceptable sex.

 

[newone]

I am referring to requirements God set for His "people". The acts are "detestable" to God...not the person. Please read carefully the quoted scripture!!!

 

[McBell]

What is natural is what our creator says is natural. He did create us.

Bold empty claims

 

[McBell]

What happened to the biological definition? The act of penetration between man and woman. Sexual intercourse - Medical Definition and More from Merriam-Webster

Men/Men and Women/Woman cant penetrate each other by natural intercourse (can't have sex with each other).

As with God, God doesn't mention about two men or two women loving (not lusting) each other (not just by flesh as scripture dictates). The intent and focus of His dissatisfaction is the lust any two or more people have through sexual gratification.

If gay and lesbian individuals do not fall into this category of lust, where is it against scripture? Is there a verse that talks specific about the sinful relationship and love between two men and two women or does it just relate it to sexual impurity?

Move the goal posts much?
Interesting how you have to change it from "sex" to "sexual intercourse" in order to even have an argument.

Nice try.
Better luck next time.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Thank you for clearing that up. It makes sense. I just wonder how two gay or lesbian Christians can consummate their love in marriage. I would ask in another thread, but it would turn into homosexuals cant be christian and no marriage argument instead.

It refers to misuse of the sexual organs. The only acceptable use of them is a married man and woman having intercourse. This does not mean that anal sex is acceptable, or oral sex either. The scriptures paint a very narrow description of acceptable sex.