why homosexualy and homosexual marriage is so wrong

[Riverwolf]

@LuisDantas look at the examples u are using. I was only talking about Homosexuality and Lesbians.
I believe from religious and also from hetero point of view that it is unnatural. It makes no sense for an adopted child to say: Hello dad & dad!
Or to lesbian parents: mom&mom!

Sure it does. Why the bloody heck wouldn't it?

Sorry if i hurted lesbians/gays on the forum, but it just make no sense to me. Thats all.

"Makes no sense" doesn't mean "evil and wrong and unnatural". It just means it's something that you're unfamiliar and uncomfortable with, and so have trouble wrapping your head around it. Making rules or judgments based on personal comforts is never a good idea.

The fact that you have such trouble understanding it makes absolutely no sense to me. I'm heterosexual, and the idea of two dads or two moms is perfectly normal and sensible to me.

I suspect, for you, it's triggering an uncanny valley effect of sorts.

 

[Baladas]

@LuisDantas look at the examples u are using. I was only talking about Homosexuality and Lesbians.
I believe from religious and also from hetero point of view that it is unnatural. It makes no sense for an adopted child to say: Hello dad & dad!
Or to lesbian parents: mom&mom!
Sorry if i hurted lesbians/gays on the forum, but it just make no sense to me. Thats all.

I am heterosexual, and I am married and I have a child. I also consider myself religious, to some extent.
However, unlike you, I consider homosexuals to be natural. It makes perfect sense to me that a child might address their parents in that fashion.

Clearly then, it is neither a heterosexual nor religious view in general that you are representing. It is your own, personal view.

 

[Jainarayan]

U think homosexuals are not suffering aids?
Dude go to the clinics
U see full of them

Why have you been to the clinics?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

I think it makes plenty of sense for a child to call their parents mum and dad, no matter what number of either they have.

Regardless of whether you find it strange, it doesn't matter, because nobody's forcing you into a same-sex relationship

U are right.

 

[Kirran]

U are right.

Well, fantastic then.

 

[Nerissa]

So svenhauke,
I'm just wondering how you feel about this. Suppose someone is lesbian or gay or into turtles or whatever. I know you think it's wrong, but what then? I mean, do you think their feelings are real? Do you think it is some mistake in their genetics, can they be "cured", or are they simply fooling themselves in your opinion? What exactly do you think is the matter with non heterosexual people? Because you can't close your eyes to the amount of people who have had such feelings. Not just now, but in the past as well.

 

[CeilingCat]

Homosexuality is illogical, anti-mankind and actually brings diseases such as aids.
There was docu about how many gays suffer from aids even though they do their unnatural sex in an safe way.

Actually if you truly studied your bible, you would know that christianity is a deathcult. It is anti-life/anti-human/anti-women/anti-happiness etc. etc. I used to be brainwashed like you, believing all of it with not a single shred of evidence to back it up. Nice to be living in reality again.

 

[gsa]

Actually if you truly studied your bible, you would know that christianity is a deathcult. It is anti-life/anti-human/anti-women/anti-happiness etc. etc. I used to be brainwashed like you, believing all of it with not a single shred of evidence to back it up. Nice to be living in reality again.

He is a Muslim, but the same principle applies.

 

[CeilingCat]

I apologise for not knowing the persons beliefs.

 

[Kirran]

Actually if you truly studied your bible, you would know that christianity is a deathcult. It is anti-life/anti-human/anti-women/anti-happiness etc. etc. I used to be brainwashed like you, believing all of it with not a single shred of evidence to back it up. Nice to be living in reality again.

Many Christians are very loving, tolerant and happy people, and have the Bible as a major part of their lives. It's dangerous to whitewash any ideology's adherents.

 

[CeilingCat]

If there are i have never encountered them.

 

[CeilingCat]

I whitewash a religion that does horrible damage to peoples lives and shackles their freedom. The bible doesn't allow tolerance. People who believe that have never read their bibles.

 

[Kirran]

I whitewash a religion that does horrible damage to peoples lives and shackles their freedom. The bible doesn't allow tolerance. People who believe that have never read their bibles.

This is a key example of a fundamentalist anti-religionist demonstrating their fundamentalism through interpreting a scripture in the EXACT same way a fundamentalist of th faith would interpret it.

Also, welcome to RF

 

[Riverwolf]

If there are i have never encountered them.

They're the only ones I've encountered.

 

[gsa]

This is a key example of a fundamentalist anti-religionist demonstrating their fundamentalism through interpreting a scripture in the EXACT same way a fundamentalist of th faith would interpret it.

Also, welcome to RF

Atheists and anti-theists cannot be fundamentalists. There is no scripture to adhere to. As far as interpreting the scripture in the exact same way, not necessarily. But scriptural infallibility has been a key tenet of Christianity, Judaism and Islam until very recently, and is still affirmed by the vast majority of believers. And those scriptures are not tolerant, no matter how much they are reinterpreted or watered down.

 

[LuisDantas]

If there are i have never encountered them.

There are. It will of course not always be easy to find them in any given neighborhood.

 

[Kirran]

Atheists and anti-theists cannot be fundamentalists. There is no scripture to adhere to. As far as interpreting the scripture in the exact same way, not necessarily. But scriptural infallibility has been a key tenet of Christianity, Judaism and Islam until very recently, and is still affirmed by the vast majority of believers. And those scriptures are not tolerant, no matter how much they are reinterpreted or watered down.

I am essentially extending the term fundamentalist to encompass those members of other ideologies who think about them in similar terms to a Christian or Islamic fundamentalist, in the same way the term fundamentalist was first extended from Christian fundamentalists to describe Islamic fundamentalists.

Scriptural infallibility still leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

 

[maggie2]

@LuisDantas can homosexuality reproduce? If not, thats why i said it is unnatural and anti-mankind. It cannot reproduce at all.
Can two lesbians get biological babies from themselves(not sperm donation)? Also unnatural.
That is the reason why Allah made Adam and Eve. The natural path is between man and woman.
Why else would God destroy Sodom and Gomorrah according to bible?
Christians became too much of apologists lately, welcoming homosexuality when it goes against their own book the bible.

Why is it that you and the original poster think that you have the correct answers to the homosexual question and others are wrong? Neither you or he is God. You may read a book and you may interpret it to say that homosexuality is wrong. However, that is only your interpretation. That may not be what the book is saying at all. Additionally, Christianity teaches that God is a God of love. If that is true than why would God make people so that they were committing sins against God's word? I just don't think God is that dumb.

 

[Kirran]

Why is it that you and the original poster think that you have the correct answers to the homosexual question and others are wrong? Neither you or he is God. You may read a book and you may interpret it to say that homosexuality is wrong. However, that is only your interpretation. That may not be what the book is saying at all. Additionally, Christianity teaches that God is a God of love. If that is true than why would God make people so that they were committing sins against God's word? I just don't think God is that dumb.

And if in doubt, tolerance

 

[gsa]

I am essentially extending the term fundamentalist to encompass those members of other ideologies who think about them in similar terms to a Christian or Islamic fundamentalist, in the same way the term fundamentalist was first extended from Christian fundamentalists to describe Islamic fundamentalists.

Scriptural infallibility still leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

The extension of the term is unwarranted, and dilutes the meaning of fundamentalism. The extension to Islam is completely warranted, given the overlapping theological, historical and scriptural assumptions of Jews, Christians and Muslims.

It actually doesn't leave any room for interpretation if you think about it. By rendering the text infallible, it creates absolute certainty that the text has an actual meaning that does not vary over time. The only variance is the result of incorrect, fallible interpretations. Moreover, despite the twisting of reformers, the meaning is fairly clear in most areas.