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Why I am a good proof that there is a God
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ppp
Well-Known Member
Muffled
Jesus in me
Oh wow! How did I forget him?!
Or wait...you did mean the author, right?!
I believe Philip of course and I have read at least one of his, then there is McCaffrey, Weber, and Drake.
ppp
Well-Known Member
What was Weber's multiverse book?
Muffled
Jesus in me
I am thinking of wormholes which he uses often. I believe wormholes are a mystery in real life. We do not know whether they go to: another place in this universe or another place in another universe. I believe Weber presumes that it is his universe.
ppp
Well-Known Member
If you are talking wormholes from the Honorverse, those are Einstein-Rosen Bridges and necessarily wholly within this universe. Also, they are entirely hypothetical. We have no idea if they exist.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe what I am telling you is not fiction.
Sheldon
Veteran Member
I understand, but I can't believe any claim without sufficient objective evidence, and I have not seen any demonstrated. Indeed in many decades of scrutiny, I have found the claims to be based on subjective and anecdotal hearsay.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe there is no way for you to have objective evidence of my experience. All you can do is objectively investigate my experience. I do not really think you can be objective but I would like to be surprised.
ppp
Well-Known Member
If, as you say, there is no objective evidence of your experience, then there is nothing to objectively investigate about your experience.,
Sheldon
Veteran Member
That is axiomatically correct.
How so?
Well that is just your subjective opinion.
'kay...
Muffled
Jesus in me
That is axiomatically correct.
How so?
Well that is just your subjective opinion.
'kay...
I believe it is a matter of asking the right questions. Others have done so. This isn't my first go round on this.
She Blinded me with Science:
Sheldon
Veteran Member
I'm not seeing your point sorry.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe you are not being objective saying that. I believe that is more of a subjective belief.
ppp
Well-Known Member
To be blunt. So, what? Why should I take your belief seriously?
Sheldon
Veteran Member
Before we disappear into endless double negatives, Policy constructed an argument, and you ignored it. For example, if you disagree with his assertion then maybe try explaining how your belief can be objectively investigated if there is no objective evidence to support it, and it is based on your own personal and anecdotal claims for personal experience? Rather than simply dismiss the argument.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe you could be amusing if you tried real hard but what would be the point. If you can't prove me wrong then I am right.
ppp
Well-Known Member
I did not ask that. I asked why should I take your beliefs seriously
Muffled
Jesus in me
I shouldn't have to lead a person into a rational approach but for your benefit, another person suggested that my mind could not be quite right to believe my experiences are real. That can be investigated by examining what I say.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that is because I am stating them seriously in case you missed that and thought I was putting you on.