• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Why I CANNOT Believe in The Resurrection

John1.12

Free gift
This is an example of you not understanding the Bible by trying to get it to say what you want it to say. The author of Timothy was referring to the Old Testament there. The New Testament did not exist at that time. He could not have been referring to it.
So the new testament is not scripture?
 

John1.12

Free gift
Trying to say that I don’t know what I know by intimating that fully-accredited institutions don’t really teach what they teach. It’s like Trump saying that Faucci didn’t know his stuff.
If you go to a calvinistic seminary, guess what you will most likely believe when you come out ? How about a Liberal ' progressive ' type ? catholic ? The bible is meant to be understood by Fisher men to plumbers ..Its not necessary to get brainwashed at a seminary and come out a bible rejector in practice .
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Verse please?
Genesis 1, where the “firmament” is mentioned. The Hebrew word translated as “firmament” is raqiya. It literally means a “hammered-out bowl. A bowl, or dome shape, will only cover a disc, not a sphere. And the sky is not a rigid material that can be hammered into shape.

Therefore, the writer thought the earth was a disc, and believed the sky to be rigid, upon which the moon, planets, and stars were affixed.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
If you go to a calvinistic seminary, guess what you will most likely believe when you come out ? How about a Liberal ' progressive ' type ? catholic ? The bible is meant to be understood by Fisher men to plumbers ..Its not necessary to get brainwashed at a seminary and come out a bible rejector in practice .
Biblical scholarship has little to do with sectarian leanings. Sure, but today’s fishermen and plumbers don’t speak ancient, dead languages, and aren’t members of the originating culture.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So the new testament is not scripture?

It did not exist at the time of the writing of that verse. When written that was just one letter of many. He could not have been referring to the New Testament.

You do not seem to understand that man decided what was and what was not scripture. There were countless "gospels" at one time.
 

John1.12

Free gift
Genesis 1, where the “firmament” is mentioned. The Hebrew word translated as “firmament” is raqiya. It literally means a “hammered-out bowl. A bowl, or dome shape, will only cover a disc, not a sphere. And the sky is not a rigid material that can be hammered into shape.

Therefore, the writer thought the earth was a disc, and believed the sky to be rigid, upon which the moon, planets, and stars were affixed.
Your practically saying God didn't know the shape of the earth he created . As the Author couldn't know the information unless given directly by God.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Not sure they teach critical thinking, if some of these posts are any indication...
I do not think that I was taught critical thinking in high school, which is where most literalist stop in non-specialized instruction. That is often something picks up in college and not even always at that level.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
It did not exist at the time of the writing of that verse. When written that was just one letter of many. He could not have been referring to the New Testament.

You do not seem to understand that man decided what was and what was not scripture. There were countless "gospels" at one time.
This is growing tiresome.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Your practically saying God didn't know the shape of the earth he created . As the Author couldn't know the information unless given directly by God.
No, no no. He is saying that the writers of the Bible did not know that. The Bible was written by man. The author was not God, at best the Bible is inspired. That does not mean that it is correct. Nor did that verse say that it was correct. Did you not read the verse that you referred to? The Bible is "useful for instruction".
 
Top