Why I CANNOT Believe in The Resurrection

[ElishaElijah]

What? No, watch the video again. They were not c!eared out. There was nowhere for them to go.

You can’t see the empty hall way lol sent you the picture

 

[Subduction Zone]

You can’t see the empty hall way lol sent you the picture

So what if the hallway was empty?

You really make some amazingly poor arguments at times.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Facts. The Bible has no authority, no spokesperson, no army, no representative, no committee, no nothing. It's just a book that exists in different languages, different forms over the centuries, in different translations, and with many, many different interpretations. You can believe what you want about the Bible, but your opinion has no authority beyond yourself.

This is the facts:
“And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

 

[Subduction Zone]

This is the facts:
“And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

No, that is the claim. The Bible is the claim, it is not the evidence. You need to provide evidence that it is a reliable source if you want to try to make the claim that you just made.

 

[ElishaElijah]

So what if the hallway was empty?

You really make some amazingly poor arguments at times.

Lol brother, do you even know firearm safety? If someone busts through my front door, I’m still responsible to avoid taking a life as a last resort, I still have to answer and prove my reasons for taking a life. The Capitol police has to as well.

 

[ElishaElijah]

No, that is the claim. The Bible is the claim, it is not the evidence. You need to provide evidence that it is a reliable source if you want to try to make the claim that you just made.

Hold on a second

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lol brother, do you even know firearm safety? If someone busts through my front door, I’m still responsible to avoid taking a life as a last resort, I still have to answer and prove my reasons for taking a life. The Capitol police has to as well.

And he did. The officer that shot her was investigated and cleared. They didn't just say "Oh, that's okay".

Wow, you don't appear to know anything about that incident besides the name.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hold on a second

Go ahead, take your time. Provide evidence that the Bible is reliable. Don't forget, you do not get to count the hits if you ignore the misses.

 

[F1fan]

This is the facts:
“And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭28:18-20‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

It's a fact this text is in the NKJV. It's not a fact that this exact text appears in other forms of the Bible.

It's a fact that this story exists in the Bible. It's not a fact the story is true.

If you are interpreting this fantastic story as true, then demonstrate how it is factual.

 

[ElishaElijah]

And he did. The officer that shot her was investigated and cleared. They didn't just say "Oh, that's okay".

Wow, you don't appear to know anything about that incident besides the name.

So you agree he was justified, what about the others? You did say Brown was justified, right?

 

[ElishaElijah]

It's a fact this text is in the NKJV. It's not a fact that this exact text appears in other forms of the Bible.

It's a fact that this story exists in the Bible. It's not a fact the story is true.

If you are interpreting this fantastic story as true, then demonstrate how it is factual.

Who do you believe Jesus Christ is?

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you agree he was justified, what about the others? You did say Brown was justified, right?

Yes. A very large black man attacked a police officer. He tried to take his gun away. He failed and backed off. After a short period of time he charged at the officer again. It was rather clear that his goal was not to kiss him on the cheek.

Who was Floyd attacking?

While handcuffed.

With an officer on top of him.

 

[F1fan]

So you agree he was justified, what about the others? You did say Brown was justified, right?

Every shooting by police or security officers are examined. Even beatings and deaths while is custody are examined. If the Rodney King officers were tried today I doubt they would have been acquitted. Why? Police reform has been happening in many police departments, and the police have standards of behavior that can't be excessive.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Who do you believe Jesus Christ is?

Not all Christians make the mistake of reading the Bible literally. And @F1fan appears to be a Buddhist. He probably thinks that Jesus was a man.

 

[F1fan]

Who do you believe Jesus Christ is?

Are you asking me if I believe the theology about Jesus as savior, no I don't. That is a religious concept that only Christians accept as true. It's not a fact. People only accept this idea doe to the religious and social influence they experience. No one comes to a rational conclusion that the Jesus myth is true.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Yes. A very large black man attacked a police officer. He tried to take his gun away. He failed and backed off. After a short period of time he charged at the officer again. It was rather clear that his goal was not to kiss him on the cheek.

Who was Floyd attacking?

While handcuffed.

With an officer on top of him.

Already said what I thought about Floyd, because he was drugged up he caused the escalation of the situation. Officers were wrong to restrain for that long. Did you miss the part where he was in the cop car, in cuffs and still managed to fight off the officers and get himself out of the car. Stay in the car! Their intention wasn’t for him to die.

 

[ElishaElijah]

Are you asking me if I believe the theology about Jesus as savior, no I don't. That is a religious concept that only Christians accept as true. It's not a fact. People only accept this idea doe to the religious and social influence they experience. No one comes to a rational conclusion that the Jesus myth is true.

Do you believe He was a real person

 

[Subduction Zone]

Every shooting by police or security officers are examined. Even beatings and deaths while is custody are examined. If the Rodney King officers were tried today I doubt they would have been acquitted. Why? Police reform has been happening in many police departments, and the police have standards of behavior that can't be excessive.

That one is arguable. I remember when the trial was going on. He did keep fighting. He was not cuffed. I listened to that and my prediction was that they would get off. Two were eventually convicted on another charge, one because he did break protocol and kick Rodney in the head once. I cannot remember why the other was convicted. They were able to show with the first trial that every blow came as a result of an action by Rodney. The illegal blows were probably still as a result of actions, but as I said that was a breaking of protocol.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Already said what I thought about Floyd, because he was drugged up he caused the escalation of the situation. Officers were wrong to restrain for that long. Did you miss the part where he was in the cop car, in cuffs and still managed to fight off the officers and get himself out of the car. Stay in the car!

And you lost that argument too.

The escalation was over a long time ago. He was killed by the excessive time that the officer had his leg on his neck. A crime that would have been a misdemeanor does not merit the death penalty.

 

[ElishaElijah]

And you lost that argument too.

The escalation was over a long time ago. He was killed by the excessive time that the officer had his leg on his neck. A crime that would have been a misdemeanor does not merit the death penalty.

Didn’t say it did