Well, just ahead of things YmirGF, i just want to say that i have a lot of respect for you, but i find this and the following posts to be extremely biased and generalizing and not at all a fair assessment of the situation, and a rather disturbing outlook on things.
I must say that I am in complete support of Israel and would go as far as saying that I am a non-Jewish Zionist - with a rather large, capital "Z". To be quite honest, I was never that big on Israel and the plight of the Jews, prior to beginning to learn about Islam. Thus, my undying support of Israel comes from my deep distrust of Islamic doctrine and the resultant motivation of all too many of its adherents.
What does your impression on Islam has to do with supporting Zionism?
I can think of few countries on the planet that have as rich a political atmosphere as Israel. The country is run by succeeding coalitions and that cannot be easy for any politician to deal with. Not only do they have to keep their own party members in check, but they also have to pay attention to the aspirations of others that keep their precarious grasp on power possible -- and that is before they even begin to consider those who would seek to work against them, as a nation.
What about their crimes?
In many ways, Israel is a deeply conflicted country build by people with a myriad of enduring scars. In many ways, they are almost the best of mankind in that they show us that in the face of adversity they will survive. So, to me, Israel is a country of survivors, but not only survivors, but survivors that have made a huge impact towards the betterment of mankind. The same cannot be said, of her adversaries. Though, they too have made significant contributions to our understanding in the past, those contributions are now many centuries old.
Thats just amazing. So, muslims have already given their share, and our time is up, is that what you're saying? I'm limited or stained by what older muslims did? Is that what you're saying? We inherit the blame now? And muslims have not contributed anything except bad things i would presume, right?
And about the scars that jews have endured. There is no doubt that jews of certain times have seen horrible things, and i admire them for coming through that. However, that doesn't mean that the scaring taking place in Palestine today, and the horrible things Palestinians have been through, is in any way justified.
I guess in other ways, to me at least, Israel represents the future and her enemies represent a past that refuses to admit that its time has truly passed and will never regain its former glory. ... and if we knew what was good for us... we wouldn't want them to regain that former "glory" any more than we would want to see the return of the Catholic Church governing Europe.
Your opinion on Islam has pretty much nothing to do with the issue. And not just your opinion, anybodies opinion on Islam has nothing to do with whats happening in Palestine.
And "glory" has nothing to do with it as well.
If the "Palestinians" put down their guns and actually tried to get along with Israel, I would find it easy to support them. Until that day, sadly, all they will get is a rather cold shoulder and a Kleenex.
What?
First off, why is Palestinians in parenthesis?
And what do you mean put down their guns? what is that is supposed to mean? Is this a joke? They are not allowed to defend themselves? and if they do they are going to be given a "cold shoulder"?
And how do you feel about the crimes done by the Israel government? "understandable casualties" may be?
