Why I'm Not A "Feminist"

[Riverwolf]

I have to say that some of the comments here make me feel at little bit nausea. Is there no men in the west now then with a back bone, or none here. It seems that we would prefer for 'mummy' to make the decisions so we don't have to-- that is what happens when you follow the Goddess and not the God. The only way to the FATHER is through the son, not the mother.

Oh, for crying out loud.

Do you have any idea how scary it is to admit that I'm a feminist these days? How scary it was to finally come out as a fan of Sailor Moon?

We can still be feminine and have or develop backbones. Being brave has nothing to do with being masculine or feminine; everyone can do it and learn to do it. Both Lord and Lady can fight as warriors.

 

[Riverwolf]

As there seems to be problems posting links on this site unless you have read the entire post, satisfying yourself with the contents, then I can only point everyone at someone of interest (I do not know if I agree with all his views as I do not know them all) called Warren Farell. You will find him on a popular site starting with "W" and sounding a bit "iki". He seems to be saying that there was no problem with power before as we had roles as genders, but now we don't, and we fight therefore for the same position, there is now a problem with power between men and women because we fight for the same thing. I shall say no more

There's only a power struggle when people don't want to share.

There's no power struggle when both take equal responsibility.

And I'll disagree that there was no problem with power before. There absolutely was: it was based on something completely arbitrary and baseless: genitals.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you have any idea how scary it is to admit that I'm a feminist these days?

This points out why you should....you're a good ambassador.

How scary it was to finally come out as a fan of Sailor Moon?

That would be scary. I'm more of a Powerpuff Girls fan.

 

[Robert.Evans]

There's only a power struggle when people don't want to share.

There's no power struggle when both take equal responsibility.

And I'll disagree that there was no problem with power before. There absolutely was: it was based on something completely arbitrary and baseless: genitals.

There was no problem before, it is what you have been led to believe through women in the media and men who can't be bothered to think. They follow their mother and fight men instead. That way they are not blamed, that is seen as allowable. So they take out there problems on their own kind. That is cowardacy

 

[Robert.Evans]

There's only a power struggle when people don't want to share.

there is also only a power struggle when someone else decides they want what you've got

There's no power struggle when both take equal responsibility.

equal responsibility for what? if a family breaks up in England, and the father takes the kids, he can be chased by the police for kidnapping. Tell me how that is possible firstly, and secondly, where is your equality??

And I'll disagree that there was no problem with power before. There absolutely was: it was based on something completely arbitrary and baseless: genitals.

It was not, it was based on the fact that hard work out of the house was done by those most suitable, and those who had better skills for work in the house which was physically easy, were in the house. What we have built now is a house (office, shop) which is easy 'out' of the house. Females and the media have fooled you. The government what you fooled as they want women working to stop them having children as they are worried about the global population (plus they can tax them) Break up of the family or with a family means that you need two cars, that is good for the economy

 

[Robert.Evans]

I am quite capable of making my own decisions, I have had to do so since I was a child. Your ad hominem is noted though. While your concept that a feminist man is somehow less than a man is not a new one, I think you should carefully consider your rhetoric as it rings more like an emotional outburst.

*edit* Oh, and I have no idea of what goddess you speak.

Having stabs in the dark at the way I am writing is not helpful. If you want to follow the female mother about, that is fine. The Goddess is the numen of the land. it is fairly clear, I think, that the East is Masculine and the West feminine. Why then are the Muslims suffering so much you might ask? Because they do not believe in the son. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

 

[Revoltingest]

Having stabs in the dark at the way I am writing is not helpful. If you want to follow the female mother about, that is fine. The Goddess is the numen of the land. it is fairly clear, I think, that the East is Masculine and the West feminine. Why then are the Muslims suffering so much you might ask? Because they do not believe in the son. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

That is one perspective. But I don't think it's so much men vs women, since
both genders are on both sides of the issues & associated sub-cultures.

 

[dust1n]

What a funny little place there, Britain.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

There was no problem before, it is what you have been led to believe through women in the media and men who can't be bothered to think. They follow their mother and fight men instead. That way they are not blamed, that is seen as allowable. So they take out there problems on their own kind. That is cowardacy

Why should a person be forced into a life-long role simply due to what anatomy they were born with? We can also get rid of competition for jobs by getting rid of wage slavery and capitalism. Every human being should have the equal opportunity to decide their own destinies. I do not submit to being a slave to a boss for a salary and I do not submit to being a slave to a gender role.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Why should a person be forced into a life-long role simply due to what anatomy they were born with?

It has nothing to do with that. We do what we are suited for, that is always the way it has been. Men have made it so easy now that they can do it also. This creates problems. What is wrong with working from home or a home based workplace? I see none.

We can also get rid of competition for jobs by getting rid of wage slavery and capitalism. Every human being should have the equal opportunity to decide their own destinies. I do not submit to being a slave to a boss for a salary and I do not submit to being a slave to a gender role.

We are what we are, the masculine and feminine of God. If you adulterate that you will answer for that. There should be limits between the genders, it helps prevent immorality and adultery. All these things are answered for. I agree that there should be a better sharing of capital, which could be accomplished if we stayed in our own land. But we do not, we prostitute with many other lands, and so it is not possible, for we cohort with our enemies, whether we like it or not. Smaller work places, smaller towns, family orientated, women with nurturing roles and learning good skills of psychology so that they bring up a better human race, and we don't have feral children running round the street. This is an abandoning of their responsibility, and that only for power and money, greed orientated.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It has nothing to do with that. We do what we are suited for, that is always the way it has been. Men have made it so easy now that they can do it also. This creates problems. What is wrong with working from home or a home based workplace? I see none.

There's nothing wrong with working from home, but it is wrong to say that a person must work from home because of the genitals they were born with. If someone makes the decision that they want to work from home - no matter which genitals they have - and they find fulfillment in that, then good for them.

We are what we are, the masculine and feminine of God.

I don't believe in nor care about your "one god".

If you adulterate that you will answer for that.

Idle threats are a waste of time. Do keep them to an absolute minimum, such as zero.

There should be limits between the genders,

No person should be limited in deciding their own destiny because of something as arbitrary as genitals. If a girl wants to be a rocket scientist, a doctor or president, it is not your right or the right of anyone else to place obstacles in her way.

it helps prevent immorality and adultery.

Limiting people because of gender is in itself immoral. How does a woman being at home eliminate adultery? What, do you support some sort of dictatorship like the Islamic theocracies which force women to stay at home and only be allowed outside under the supervision of a male relative?

I agree that there should be a better sharing of capital, which could be accomplished if we stayed in our own land. But we do not, we prostitute with many other lands, and so it is not possible, for we cohort with our enemies, whether we like it or not. Smaller work places, smaller towns,

I don't care about "staying in our own land" (what does that mean, anyway?). I believe in liberation for the entire human race through the elimination of things like capital and social hierarchy so that we may cooperate with each other in voluntarily building a better world.

family orientated, women with nurturing roles and learning good skills of psychology so that they bring up a better human race,

Men need to become more nurturing, too. Both men and women can be strong, nurturing people who can stand on their own.

and we don't have feral children running round the street.

Latchkey kids running the streets is a different subject.

 

[Robert.Evans]

There's nothing wrong with working from home, but it is wrong to say that a person must work from home because of the genitals they were born with. If someone makes the decision that they want to work from home - no matter which genitals they have - and they find fulfillment in that, then good for them.

You keep using that word which it has nothing to do with (though I see your point of view). What you are saying is that men and women do what they want and never mind the children or the greater good in society. In other words just be selfish. There are always consequences, and that is not a threat, I don't know why you would take it as such

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You keep using that word which it has nothing to do with (though I see your point of view). What you are saying is that men and women do what they want and never mind the children or the greater good in society. In other words just be selfish. There are always consequences, and that is not a threat, I don't know why you would take it as such

All human beings should be allowed to express their full potential and follow their own self-made destinies. When it comes to kids, people need to be more responsible and a woman's lot in life does not have to be a mere baby factory, as you seem to be implying. People should only have children if they are completely confident that they will be able to provide for them and if they are fully psychologically fit to be a parent.

 

[Robert.Evans]

All human beings should be allowed to express their full potential and follow their own self-made destinies. When it comes to kids, people need to be more responsible and a woman's lot in life does not have to be a mere baby factory, as you seem to be implying. People should only have children if they are completely confident that they will be able to provide for them and if they are fully psychologically fit to be a parent.

But one cannot "express their full potential" if they are parents. This is what women try to do. The feminine spirit of the land is over All

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

But one cannot "express their full potential" if they are parents. This is what women try to do. The feminine spirit of the land is over All

Why can't they? Not all people can, should or want to be parents, anyway.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Why can't they? Not all people can, should or want to be parents, anyway.

You cannot be a fulltime mother and a full time worker even though that is the myth

 

[Robert.Evans]

Why can't they? Not all people can, should or want to be parents, anyway.

I thought you said everyone should be free to choose? Now you say they should not do this or do that.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I thought you said everyone should be free to choose? Now you say they should not do this or do that.

Well, obviously some people just aren't fit to be parents.

 

[Robert.Evans]

Well, obviously some people just aren't fit to be parents.

Going off who's decision? Yours? So where is your free to choose?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Going off who's decision? Yours? So where is your free to choose?

Don't try to distract from your sexism. I notice that you didn't really answer my post, such as when I asked if you support some sort of dictatorship where women aren't allowed to leave the home with a male relative. I want to hear that answer.