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Why is alternative living so controversial?

Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
CynthiaCypher said:
I actually support them in that decision. In fact I wholeheartedly encourage hem never to have kids, not by adopted nor naturally. In fact I ask...no...I beg them to please refrain from having children.
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Another fine example of Cynthia Cypher not being insulting. Lol. You're so cute.
 
Leftimies

Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
Nymphs said:
Kids are awesome. I love them to pieces -- I just don't want them. I don't have the patience, the desire, the money or the want to be a mother. I just want to have them in my life where I can return them to their rightful owners at the end of the day. I know I'm a lazy and selfish person when it comes to my time, and I don't want to change my lifestyle at this time.
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Nah, if you feel like you would not be able to give them all that they need, it is probably in fact for the better that you wouldn't get them. One of the characteristics of a good parent is the ability to sense when he/she is ready for it. As partially (only by one of the parents) neglected child I can tell its not fun to play that role.

I wanna become a super dad though!! I think it will be socially and philosophically very rewarding experience, to witness cycle of life.

Perhaps later in your life you may find yourself "capable" of and wanting kids. Perhaps you will not. In any case, trust your judgement, for most part it tells us what to do and not to do, when and how.
 
Nymphs

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
Leftimies said:
Perhaps later in your life you may find yourself "capable" of and wanting kids. Perhaps you will not. In any case, trust your judgement, for most part it tells us what to do and not to do, when and how.
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Exactly. Personally, I don't think I will, and I'm okay with that. If I do, I do. I just don't want them now, so I'm taking precautions to prevent that.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Leftimies said:
Nah, if you feel like you would not be able to give them all that they need, it is probably in fact for the better that you wouldn't get them. One of the characteristics of a good parent is the ability to sense when he/she is ready for it. As partially (only by one of the parents) neglected child I can tell its not fun to play that role.

I wanna become a super dad though!! I think it will be socially and philosophically very rewarding experience, to witness cycle of life.

Perhaps later in your life you may find yourself "capable" of and wanting kids. Perhaps you will not. In any case, trust your judgement, for most part it tells us what to do and not to do, when and how.
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I love kids (and they love me too) but wouldn't want to be fully responsible for them in my current economic circumstances. If those circumstances were to improve significantly, I would like to look after some of the kids that are already here, either through fostering or open adoption. My husband and I would be great parents - we both have an abundance of love, compassion and patience, and I've spent many years as a teacher and nanny.

But we're both very ethical and very aware of the kind of world we would be bringing children into. Global warming and resource depletion means every generation is getting a crappier deal and inheriting more overwhelming problems than the one before. Also, the LAST thing the world needs if any of those problems are ever to be solved is more people living on it.

I don't think "ready" is the right way to frame it though. It implies there is a natural progression of maturity that inevitably results in wanting to make more people. I don't see it that way at all. As I say, different strokes for different folks. ;)

It's not uncommon throughout nature for mammals to limit reproduction when resources are scarce. Not reproducing is a much more palatable option than eating our babies, like polar bears. :p
 
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Leftimies

Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
Alceste said:
I love kids (and they love me too) but wouldn't want to be fully responsible for them in my current economic circumstances. If those circumstances were to improve significantly, I would like to look after some of the kids that are already here, either through fostering or open adoption. My husband and I would be great parents - we both have an abundance of love, compassion and patience, and I've spent many years as a teacher and nanny.

But we're both very ethical and very aware of the kind of world we would be bringing children into. Global warming and resource depletion means every generation is getting a crappier deal and inheriting more overwhelming problems than the one before. Also, the LAST thing the world needs if any of those problems are ever to be solved is more people living on it.

I don't think "ready" is the right way to frame it though. It implies there is a natural progression of maturity that inevitably results in wanting to make more people. I don't see it that way at all. As I say, different strokes for different folks. ;)

It's not uncommon throughout nature for mammals to limit reproduction when resources are scarce. Not reproducing is a much more palatable option than eating our babies, like polar bears. :p
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Blehhhh, I didn't imply it is inevitability XD Thus why I said "maybe not", I did take it into consideration that perhaps it is never to be >:3

Honestly though, while its a dangerous world, its also a very exciting age approaching us. Technological singularity and new space age draw near! Humanity's encroachment on Mars! Cybernetic implants to augment human beings. Lots of awesome to go around.

My aunt never had children, nor did she ever marry. She is one of the kindest and most awesome people that I know, regardless. Certainly not having kids doesn't equate being a bad person - anyone who holds that view holds a severely flawed view.
 
Alceste

Alceste

Vagabond
Leftimies said:
Blehhhh, I didn't imply it is inevitability XD Thus why I said "maybe not", I did take it into consideration that perhaps it is never to be >:3

Honestly though, while its a dangerous world, its also a very exciting age approaching us. Technological singularity and new space age draw near! Humanity's encroachment on Mars! Cybernetic implants to augment human beings. Lots of awesome to go around.

My aunt never had children, nor did she ever marry. She is one of the kindest and most awesome people that I know, regardless. Certainly not having kids doesn't equate being a bad person - anyone who holds that view holds a severely flawed view.
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Yeah, there are some interesting things going on in science and technology, but I don't think that's a good reason to add additional human beings to the earth, which can not even support all the humans that are already here.

The thing about "ready" was just semantics. If you didn't actually mean what I felt that word implied, that's great. :)
 
kashmir

kashmir

Well-Known Member
Alceste said:
Perhaps it's not ALL other thoughts and opinions we don't want to hear, but only yours. And perhaps we don't want to hear it because you've already shared it with us repeatedly.

Let's not derail this thread. What is your opinion on why people tend to be so hostile to / judgmental of minority lifestyles? That is one opinion you have not yet shared...

...unless I missed it when I was drunk.
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I cant see how we can discuss why the controversy unless we discuss what is being judged, never the less I also tried to discuss this in broad terms as well.

I must ask why you attacked me and when I replied to you, you ignored it.
No where did I ever say I wish to stop other peoples lifestyles.
I am not stalking anyone, I am just as interested in this subject as others are.
Cant you at least apologize for your uncalled for attitude towards me?

One of the reasons i keep repeating myself is because people like you keep twisting what I said.
Again, I am not trying to stop anyone from their lifestyle.


Thanks :D
 
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dust1n

dust1n

Zindīq
Nymphs said:
Polyamory? Child-free? Vegetarian? Atheist?

What is so wrong with doing something that doesn't affect another person? :confused:
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If someone thinks differently than you, then either three things are happening, either you are right and they are wrong, they are right and you are wrong, or truth doesn't mean much.

Is it a surprise which two are held onto the most?
 
Nymphs

Nymphs

Well-Known Member
dust1n said:
If someone thinks differently than you, then either three things are happening, either you are right and they are wrong, they are right and you are wrong, or truth doesn't mean much.

Is it a surprise which two are held onto the most?
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Or those things aren't really that important to have people argue about. ;)
 
Sha'irullah

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Well in general bestiality is not well accepted by the vast majority of people. Many people judge me because of my love for Bessie who I married back in 2012. We love each other but nobody understands us and how we feel yet alone our homo-bovine children. I guess some people have never experience man to cow lovin' :D
 
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