Why is alternative living so controversial?

[illykitty]

I wish looks wouldn't matter so much, as long as someone is clean.

What does it tell about my personality if I have pink or red hair, like to wear clothes that aren't always considered mainstream and so on? Absolutely nothing.

I just like those aesthetics.

 

[Alceste]

I don't know where you live, but Atheism and Vegetarianism is not in the slightest controversial in where I live.

But I can tell you this: alternate lifestyles are controversial because they are alternate. For someone who doesn't live alternate lifestyle it is hard to understand why someone else would. It is a very human thing.

I would suggest to nevermind it and seek like-minded people and associate with them.

Ah, here we go! Thank you for addressing the OP, instead of playing "let's stalk nymphs from thread to thread and shame her for her lack of fidelity" with the bloody disgraceful dog pile of condescending nonsense on the first couple pages of this topic, with the exception of post 16.

Let's see if we can save this thread together. I'm actually interested in talking about the subject of the OP - why do conformists so often perceive non-conformists as enemies?

(Edited for Curious George.)

 

[Alceste]

In my experience, I've gotten plenty of objection from other people on my choice to be child-free. You'd be surprised, I was.

Oh, my God! I know, right? My own mother! She's not even hostile. She's just gutted, like I've let her down somehow.

Women with kids are always trying to cajole me into it as well, arguing that I "won't regret it". Well of course not! Hardly anybody with kids wishes their kids were either dead or never born. Nevertheless, it's a completely irrational argument for having kids.

 

[Leftimies]

Ah, here we go! Thank you for being the first to actually address the OP, instead of playing "let's stalk nymphs from thread to thread and shame her for her lack of fidelity" with the bloody disgraceful dog pile of condescending nonsense on the first couple pages of this topic.

Let's see if we can save this thread together. I'm actually interested in talking about the subject of the OP - why do conformists so often perceive non-conformists as enemies?

Alas, I am fearful that the brightest hope for this thread has already been punched into oblivion. But we can always try to bake a nice cake out of its bloodstained pieces!

I certainly like the topic for one, even though I am personally opposed to polyamory. Civil debate would be nice though, as I rarely get to hear the other side of the story.

 

[Curious George]

Ah, here we go! Thank you for being the first to actually address the OP, instead of playing "let's stalk nymphs from thread to thread and shame her for her lack of fidelity" with the bloody disgraceful dog pile of condescending nonsense on the first couple pages of this topic.

Let's see if we can save this thread together. I'm actually interested in talking about the subject of the OP - why do conformists so often perceive non-conformists as enemies?

Ahem, post 16. There have been a few others as well.

 

[Alceste]

Ahem, post 16. There have been a few others as well.

Ah, well I am drunk after all, and I've had 4 hours of sleep a night for about a week. Sorry if I skimmed past some quality material!

 

[Alceste]

Ah, here we go! Thank you for addressing the OP, instead of playing "let's stalk nymphs from thread to thread and shame her for her lack of fidelity" with the bloody disgraceful dog pile of condescending nonsense on the first couple pages of this topic, with the exception of post 16.

Let's see if we can save this thread together. I'm actually interested in talking about the subject of the OP - why do conformists so often perceive non-conformists as enemies?

(Edited for Curious George.)

Better?

 

[Gehennaite]

Long ago, I decided I was done with relationships, been hurt too many times.
Not a soul on this planet has ever belittled me over it.

Some have said to give it a chance and there is a female for me out there somewhere.
I don't view that as attacking me, nor do I see it as them saying I am wrong.

If one cant handle criticisms of others, something is wrong, insecurity comes to mind.

Solo is the way to roll, brotha. We aint about takin' dat ****.

 

[Curious George]

Better?

Much, though Luis is a genuinely thoughtful poster as well. But you have already edited once he will just have to suck it up.

 

[kashmir]

Your views do matter, and we all affirm your right to commit to the kind of relationship that works best for you and your partner/s.

Where you've gone wrong is in endowing yourself with the right to decide what kind of relationship OTHER PEOPLE are allowed to have by law.

What the heck are you talking about?
I have said that I could give a hoot less what people do.
All I have done was voice my perspective on what I deem family values for ME.

Ah, here we go! Thank you for addressing the OP, instead of playing "let's stalk nymphs from thread to thread and shame her for her lack of fidelity" with the bloody disgraceful dog pile of condescending nonsense on the first couple pages of this topic, with the exception of post 16.

Let's see if we can save this thread together. I'm actually interested in talking about the subject of the OP - why do conformists so often perceive non-conformists as enemies?

(Edited for Curious George.)

No one is stalking anyone, she is creating the same topic over and over and we are simply replying to it.
It's called, having an opinion, one she is asking to hear.
No one is shaming her either, we are simply discussing the topic and our views on it.
As I have said 9273524 times now, if one does not wish to hear opposing arguments, don't create topics and ask for for them. :sarcastic

This is too funny.
"What do you think of polyamory, yay or nay?"
"I must warn you, if you oppose it, we will play victim and say what ever we can to make you look bad, so it's best for you to just support polyamory and keep your true opinions to yourself"

Plus, in every single thread, when I said I was done, she has went back and quoted my previous comments and replied to them, clearly trying to lure me back into the drama of it all.
Yet, we are stalking her?
Too funny.

 

[Drolefille]

since she refuses to address my points on poly and wish to direct me to post on the other thread says we are not to discuss alternative lifestyles at all.

That means this thread is about attacking everyone who doesn't agree with alternative lifestyles, which concludes that everyone on the planet is guilty of the OP.
No two people lead the exact same lifestyles, even twins have opposing views on things.

What the heck are you talking about?
I have said that I could give a hoot less what people do.
All I have done was voice my perspective on what I deem family values for ME.


No one is stalking anyone, she is creating the same topic over and over and we are simply replying to it.
It's called, having an opinion, one she is asking to hear.
No one is shaming her either, we are simply discussing the topic and our views on it.
As I have said 9273524 times now, if one does not wish to hear opposing arguments, don't create topics and ask for for them. :sarcastic

This is too funny.
"What do you think of polyamory, yay or nay?"
"I must warn you, if you oppose it, we will play victim and say what ever we can to make you look bad, so it's best for you to just support polyamory and keep your true opinions to yourself"

Plus, in every single thread, when I said I was done, she has went back and quoted my previous comments and replied to them, clearly trying to lure me back into the drama of it all.
Yet, we are stalking her?
Too funny.

Look, I've addressed your poly comments, three threads ago, you ignored it and keep going. This thread is more a meta discussion than a poly discussion and you're definitely the one trying to make that change.

Also stop trying to blame her for "luring you in" to replying. You're an adult-I assume. Own your actions.

 

[Alceste]

What the heck are you talking about?
I have said that I could give a hoot less what people do.
All I have done was voice my perspective on what I deem family values for ME.


No one is stalking anyone, she is creating the same topic over and over and we are simply replying to it.
It's called, having an opinion, one she is asking to hear.
No one is shaming her either, we are simply discussing the topic and our views on it.
As I have said 9273524 times now, if one does not wish to hear opposing arguments, don't create topics and ask for for them. :sarcastic

This is too funny.
"What do you think of polyamory, yay or nay?"
"I must warn you, if you oppose it, we will play victim and say what ever we can to make you look bad, so it's best for you to just support polyamory and keep your true opinions to yourself"

Plus, in every single thread, when I said I was done, she has went back and quoted my previous comments and replied to them, clearly trying to lure me back into the drama of it all.
Yet, we are stalking her?
Too funny.

Perhaps it's not ALL other thoughts and opinions we don't want to hear, but only yours. And perhaps we don't want to hear it because you've already shared it with us repeatedly.

Let's not derail this thread. What is your opinion on why people tend to be so hostile to / judgmental of minority lifestyles? That is one opinion you have not yet shared...

...unless I missed it when I was drunk.

 

[Nymphs]

I am a child free atheist vegetarian empirical naturalist psychonaut feminist socialist libertarian in addition to being polyamorous.

That's me to a "t"

 

[Nymphs]

Oh, my God! I know, right? My own mother! She's not even hostile. She's just gutted, like I've let her down somehow.

Women with kids are always trying to cajole me into it as well, arguing that I "won't regret it". Well of course not! Hardly anybody with kids wishes their kids were either dead or never born. Nevertheless, it's a completely irrational argument for having kids.

Have you gotten the "You'll change your mind!" yet? I don't understand why people think it is okay to tell people things like that. :no:

 

[Leftimies]

But kids are awesome ;_;

Can you enlighten me as to why you won't get kids? Not trying to be judgemental, just curious.

 

[Nymphs]

But kids are awesome ;_;

Can you enlighten me as to why you won't get kids? Not trying to be judgemental, just curious.

Kids are awesome. I love them to pieces -- I just don't want them. I don't have the patience, the desire, the money or the want to be a mother. I just want to have them in my life where I can return them to their rightful owners at the end of the day. I know I'm a lazy and selfish person when it comes to my time, and I don't want to change my lifestyle at this time. There may be one point we (DH and I) want children, but we've been married 10 years now and it hasn't happened (wasn't preventing it either). We just feel like at this point in our lives, we would not be able to give a child the full attention that they need and we don't want to do that. If we were to be parents, we want to be good parents.

 

[Nymphs]

But kids are awesome ;_;

Can you enlighten me as to why you won't get kids? Not trying to be judgemental, just curious.

Also, if you are interested, here is a thread I created when I first got to RF about being child-free. There are many different reasons for people not to have children, and I definitely don't speak for all of them. I am however, completely open about my life and decisions.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/family-personal-living/161885-child-free.html

 

[illykitty]

But kids are awesome ;_;

Can you enlighten me as to why you won't get kids? Not trying to be judgemental, just curious.

For me there's both personal reasons, such as money, lifestyle, no motherly feeling or desire. I'm happy the way we are. I find cats cuter (hate it when people show me baby pictures as ask if cute, I have to lie). There's a few more but I've said this in two of the child-free threads.

Then there's larger reasons related to population size and environmental concerns... Global climate change can make this world unrecognisable. Do I really want to bring a child into it? We keep killing off animals, cutting trees, polluting the environment, etc. I know it seems pessimistic but I feel future generations are going to hate us.

 

[Nymphs]

Who is "them"?

Pretty sure she is referring to me. :cover:

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Pretty sure she is referring to me. :cover:

No doubt, but what specifically about you is what I want to know...