While y'all are demonizing homosexuality and elevating heterosexuality to a higher pedestal of purity, us bisexuals will be flying under the radar enjoying life. Have fun.
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why is being gay forbidden ?
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While y'all are demonizing homosexuality and elevating heterosexuality to a higher pedestal of purity, us bisexuals will be flying under the radar enjoying life. Have fun.
Akingu
Member
"Spiny Norman wrote:
>>>Sadly that's true, discrimination and bigotry isn't just a religious phenomena.
Nature knows no bigotry or discrimination when it comes to survival. To place such labels is ignorant, much akin to saying a door hates you for walking into it and bashing your eye.
>>>But religious homophobia is particularly distasteful because it uses ancient religious texts to condone the bigotry.
So you support the NAMBLA and NAWGLA agenda of 'recruiting' and raping little children. Now we know what kind of morals and ethics you possess.
>>>Sadly that's true, discrimination and bigotry isn't just a religious phenomena.
Nature knows no bigotry or discrimination when it comes to survival. To place such labels is ignorant, much akin to saying a door hates you for walking into it and bashing your eye.
>>>But religious homophobia is particularly distasteful because it uses ancient religious texts to condone the bigotry.
So you support the NAMBLA and NAWGLA agenda of 'recruiting' and raping little children. Now we know what kind of morals and ethics you possess.
Akingu
Member
MY! What a fountain of rebuttal YOU are! Captain of the Debate Team, you were?
McBell
Unbound
MY! What a fountain of rebuttal YOU are! Captain of the Debate Team, you were?
Your blatant hypocrisy is duly noted.
spiritualhitchhiker
neti, neti, neti
Why? It actually is the only comment which gives a satisfactory spiritual explanation for why it's discouraged and frowned upon.
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Izdaari
Emergent Anglo-Catholic
It makes zero sense to me too. I am a gay (pansexual) Christian, and I don't see any valid theological case against it, nor does my church (Episcopalian & ELCA Lutheran), which is "open and affirming".
Hachan
Revd.
Sodomy is the original way to summon demons, that is why it is a sin, just like boiling a kid in its mother's milk is a sin and cross-dressing (according to the Torah) but if you can be gay without indulging in satanic marriage nor cross-dressing there is no sin upon you.
Marriage is sex, Gay Male Sex is Sodomy hence it is impossible for any cleric in any Torah-based religion to bless a marriage between two men. However, there are cases of two men who love each other closely like brothers (able to sleep in the same bed without indulging in any sexual ativity) being blessed as brothers forever just like a modern day civil union between two straight males. It is called adelphopoiesis in the eastern traditions.
Non-incestuous female homosexual activity is not forbidden (incestuous female homosexuality is prohibited) and there are several cases of girl-friend relationships between women in the Bible, for example Hagar and Sarah, Leah and Zilpah, Rachel and Bilah, the 500 concubines in Solomon's Harem etc.. However, the command for men and women to go forth together (and if possible multiply) indicates that although sexual activity between women is not prohibited, the absolute lesbian rejection of male partner is prohibited unless one adopts a consecrated life of celibacy. Othewise we can see marriage should be one man and up to a maximum of few women, while there is no limit on how many female sexual partners those women may have at the same time (e.g. 500 in Solomon's Harem), though obviously those women must not be already married to any man. It is possible to be the lifelong girlfriend of a woman who is married without ever having sexual relations with your girlfriend's husband, but a strictly monogamous female female lifelong sexual relationship is apparently impossible from the Biblical perspctive.
In the end though, as long as you feel sorry about your inability to meet the targets set in the Bible, you have salvation in Christ. But if you do not feel sorry about your sins (as defned by the Torah) then you have no chance at salvation.
Marriage is sex, Gay Male Sex is Sodomy hence it is impossible for any cleric in any Torah-based religion to bless a marriage between two men. However, there are cases of two men who love each other closely like brothers (able to sleep in the same bed without indulging in any sexual ativity) being blessed as brothers forever just like a modern day civil union between two straight males. It is called adelphopoiesis in the eastern traditions.
Non-incestuous female homosexual activity is not forbidden (incestuous female homosexuality is prohibited) and there are several cases of girl-friend relationships between women in the Bible, for example Hagar and Sarah, Leah and Zilpah, Rachel and Bilah, the 500 concubines in Solomon's Harem etc.. However, the command for men and women to go forth together (and if possible multiply) indicates that although sexual activity between women is not prohibited, the absolute lesbian rejection of male partner is prohibited unless one adopts a consecrated life of celibacy. Othewise we can see marriage should be one man and up to a maximum of few women, while there is no limit on how many female sexual partners those women may have at the same time (e.g. 500 in Solomon's Harem), though obviously those women must not be already married to any man. It is possible to be the lifelong girlfriend of a woman who is married without ever having sexual relations with your girlfriend's husband, but a strictly monogamous female female lifelong sexual relationship is apparently impossible from the Biblical perspctive.
In the end though, as long as you feel sorry about your inability to meet the targets set in the Bible, you have salvation in Christ. But if you do not feel sorry about your sins (as defned by the Torah) then you have no chance at salvation.
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sojourner
Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Targets? During WWII, Bremen and Berlin were great targets. These days, not so much. Targets change with societal and cultural understanding, and scientific enlightenment. Otherwise, the targets become simply idolatry.
For example, in a world where honor and shame are sexually-embodied, where males embody honor and females embody shame, it would be a sin for males to cross-dress, and to act in the "female" role during sex. These days, in a culture where those understandings have been worked through, there should be no problem. These prohibitions are culturally (not morally) driven, and are born of a primitive understanding of sexual identity and sexual roles.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
I think being sorry is essential to be a christian, for one thing or the other, even for what Adam and Eve did together. If you are not sorry, then you are not a Christian.