Because GOD is believed to have taken male form during the Incarnation. I'm cool with that, I just wish He'd come down off his Heavenly throne and kick some butt here on this mudball we call Earth...
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Why is god identified as a "he"???
- Thread starter Don Penguinoini
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Because GOD is believed to have taken male form during the Incarnation. I'm cool with that, I just wish He'd come down off his Heavenly throne and kick some butt here on this mudball we call Earth...
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Don't we all? I'd like to think He knows what He's doing in the face of my impatience and wretched thoughts...:shoutBecause GOD is believed to have taken male form during the Incarnation. I'm cool with that, I just wish He'd come down off his Heavenly throne and kick some butt here on this mudball we call Earth...
Callmepaul
Member
When God selected the Jews as his favored nation, they were already an established tribe. They had multiple wives and concubines and were a patriarchal culture. This was obviously a very male dominated society. Women were expected to be subservient just as in the Muslim countries today. Is it any wonder that God would present himself as a male to these people? And whether he actually did present himself this way may even be open to debate - as it was a patriarchal society and culture that wrote the scriptures down.
Somehow I have trouble believing that the God who invented the very concept of male and female would have a problem with his children identifying him as 'she'. I think she's bigger than that.
Somehow I have trouble believing that the God who invented the very concept of male and female would have a problem with his children identifying him as 'she'. I think she's bigger than that.
athanasius
Well-Known Member
I believe that God is the lord of the universe and history, he is in control. God is not politically correct and He could have very well sent Jesus as a women if he wanted to even if it wouldn't be popular(many things Jesus taugh were not popular to the cultural norm an even ended up getting him Killed) and this would have still accomplished the same feat. But the fact is that Jesus became Man and referred to God as Father. We simply imitate Jesus and follow his lead.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Exactly. If male and female come from God then God must have both. In Taoism, Unity gives rise to Duality - yin and yang, female and male - mutually dependent. Balanced.
athanasius
Well-Known Member
Yes there are qualites of both male and female in God and his creation(Men and women) reflect them very well. We just believe that some of God's strongest qualities are of a Father hence Fatherhood. We think that is why Jesus seems to teach this.
kadzbiz
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... I just wish He'd come down off his Heavenly throne and kick some butt here on this mudball we call Earth...
Yeah, that would finally solve a few issues. We'd probably lose RF though.
I doubt that a woman would've had the same impact, at the time.
Absolutely, God created a manly place, then all of a sudden decided, "no, I don't like the couch there" and created woman.
Callmepaul
Member
Yet it is a well documented fact that women can bear a higher degree of pain than men. They can be as strong as a man emotionally and in every other way except physically. So you believe it is muscles that make God male rather than female? Any other strength attribute you could say are male only are just based on bias.
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Rrrrrrright......(Tony the tiger)
And somehow you have no beef with him having a "choosen people". But I'm willing to bet you can explain yourself out of that one. That's ok though, like you [unless I'm mistaken], I understand that what God does may not interpret very nicely to some of us. Most of us like to believe the God we have in our heads is a just and good God. Believe or not, having a male God can be interpreted quite nicely into that God we have in our heads. Having a "she" God raises the very same problems you object to. Just be sure to note that.
JayHawes
Active Member
Did you read the first sentence and stop? :sarcastic
JayHawes
Active Member
Because GOD is believed to have taken male form during the Incarnation. I'm cool with that, I just wish He'd come down off his Heavenly throne and kick some butt here on this mudball we call Earth...
He will.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
Well, being "chosen" was certainly no picnic.
And having a female God can't be interpreted nicely into a just and good God?
I don't think that Callmepaul was saying that God is a "she." I think he was intentionally using "he" and "she" alternately to suggest that God is both he and she.Having a "she" God raises the very same problems you object to. Just be sure to note that.
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
True dat...lilithu said:Well, being "chosen" was certainly no picnic.
lilithu said:And having a female God can't be interpreted nicely into a just and good God?
It sure can. But the difference is that those who choose to change it from the norm, do so for what? That is, if they believe it can be interpreted nicely either way, why change it, but an attachment that leads to problems. I'd leave it alone if the norm was female because my opposition of it would basically be saying "you don't know what you are doing God". But of course, this only works if you think the "maleness" came from God himself.
Gotcha...I disagree, but I gotcha.lilithu said:
arthra
Baha'i
Of course when the word "God" is translated into say English it goes without saying that culture influences the translation...so in English language God is masculine but this is just the accident of language... and if you go back of course it is also masculine in Hebrew but again culture dictated this... Some attributes of God are more feminine... there is a more nurturing aspect of God and in various cultures God is like a mother and in some God is more like a spouse...so all these things enter. Jesus saw God as His Father not though in a biological sense but in the sense of a relationship... God is like a "Father" and His relationship to Jesus was as to an only begotten son or first born son...so it was very close and full of affection according to the standards of the society that Jesus appeared in.
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Callmepaul
Member
Yep, I agree! Men can be *****es too!Rrrrrrright......(Tony the tiger)
And somehow you have no beef with him having a "choosen people". But I'm willing to bet you can explain yourself out of that one. That's ok though, like you [unless I'm mistaken], I understand that what God does may not interpret very nicely to some of us. Most of us like to believe the God we have in our heads is a just and good God. Believe or not, having a male God can be interpreted quite nicely into that God we have in our heads. Having a "she" God raises the very same problems you object to. Just be sure to note that.
JayHawes
Active Member
Some people think so hard that they think they find truth while they actually know nothing, not even the tip of the iceberg- they think so much that they can make the simplist lie seem like truth, and actually argue down that it is truth. Paul called such people "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth" 2 Timothy 3:7.
MFaraz_Hayat
Active Member
As far as Quran is concerned, I heard a muslim scholar say this:
In Arabic their is no word for English word "it", therefore the Arabic word for "he" and "she" also account for the word "it". In usage of Arabic word for "she", certain rules apply including sounds which must precede etc. . Therefore for Allah Arabic word for "she" cannot be used (for required sounds are not in this word), thus, Arabic word for "he" is used. This has been translated as He in english.
In Arabic their is no word for English word "it", therefore the Arabic word for "he" and "she" also account for the word "it". In usage of Arabic word for "she", certain rules apply including sounds which must precede etc. . Therefore for Allah Arabic word for "she" cannot be used (for required sounds are not in this word), thus, Arabic word for "he" is used. This has been translated as He in english.
lilithu
The Devil's Advocate
For someone who keeps insisting that
this is a pointless argument" and that "it doesn't matter whether one calls God he or she", you sure are curiously invested in it. Wonder why. :sarcastic
I consider this to be a pointless argument as well. The motives for anyone posting cannot be contained in "curiously invested" though. Instead, could motives not be wanting others to look at more important issues and further rejct something through willful blindness?