Why is homosexuality a sin

[MBones]

And for that matter that God is a he. He may be a she. Or why does God have to have a gender?

 

[MBones]

Crowley,
Yes your story is moving, but untrue to the many homosexual people out there. Many live today very happy and will live that day until they die. The problem with your "friend" was that you instilled in him that it was wrong and he was living his life in the wrong direction. You my friend are wrong for that and possibly could have hastened his life. I have a very close gay friend and he has been living his life comfortably with his partner for over 20 years, both are in tip top shape, and have no desire to repent or die. You are misled in your teachings.
hings.

 

[MBones]

Where you there? Did you witness it? I think not. Then at what point are you an expert in the subject? Other than the bible, there are no historical records. A fictional book does not give anyone the right to claim something they do not.

 

[Blindinglight]

see........ adam and eve. O WAIT! you don't want to see.......... seee............ i see........ si senor.

The way I see it, Adam and Eve really didn't have much of a choice in that issue. They were man and woman, because there was just ONE man and ONE woman.

 

[sojourner]

The way I see it, Adam and Eve really didn't have much of a choice in that issue. They were man and woman, because there was just ONE man and ONE woman.

Well, that's a sticky point for the pro-homosexual crowd, because God did create them male and female. However, I think that taking an ancient story, written from the perspective of a primitive people who need to repopulate so they won't die out, who live in a largely agrarian society in which more children means more people to help in the survival process, to take that perspective for our own time, in which we may die from overpopulation and supply shortages, is dangerous and ill-advised.

 

[MBones]

Sojourner.
First point that God did create them male and female. OK? That simple??? When did this happen? In the good book? The Bible? Yes I think that is what you mean. You of course discredit all of the fossiles found and the whole theory of the big bang? Let me ask you Sojourner, where did you go to college, or university? Not that it matters just wanted to be up on your educational system.

 

[MBones]

"we cant deny the fact that there are people born with more female hormones and stuff. but most homosexual men are more masculine than i am. they are practically a furballs (not frubals LOL). i think homosexual is a choice after all."same goes with women, sure high testosterone level in a woman makes her clitoris big. but thats just about it. it doesnt make her homosexual. and most homosexual women are hot! few are like tomboys." "i guess why homosexual is a sin is because of that choice. god gave guidelines on how sex interactions are only between genders. us human who are given free chose to sexually interact with the same gender hence breaking rules set by god."but who doesn't believe in god, i guess the explanation above is irrelevant."

Not to be rude but the obove spoken lines from a member who has provided these lines, probably has not had some education on the subject. This is what is detremental to this society. Some people spilling their off handed views of socieity. Ask this same person about Jews and African Americans and you might find the same answer. Gays??? no it is not in the vocabulary, what is that? Come to the 21st year.

 

[Phil Lawton]

"we cant deny the fact that there are people born with more female hormones and stuff. but most homosexual men are more masculine than i am. they are practically a furballs (not frubals LOL). i think homosexual is a choice after all."same goes with women, sure high testosterone level in a woman makes her clitoris big. but thats just about it. it doesnt make her homosexual. and most homosexual women are hot! few are like tomboys." "i guess why homosexual is a sin is because of that choice. god gave guidelines on how sex interactions are only between genders. us human who are given free chose to sexually interact with the same gender hence breaking rules set by god."but who doesn't believe in god, i guess the explanation above is irrelevant."

As far as intelligence, i rest my case. Not to be rude but the obove spoken lines from a member who has provided these lines, probably has not had the education on the subject. This is what is detremental to this society. Uneducated people spilling their off handed views of socieity.

Quite.

 

[rasor]

"we cant deny the fact that there are people born with more female hormones and stuff. but most homosexual men are more masculine than i am. they are practically a furballs (not frubals LOL). i think homosexual is a choice after all."same goes with women, sure high testosterone level in a woman makes her clitoris big. but thats just about it. it doesnt make her homosexual. and most homosexual women are hot! few are like tomboys." "i guess why homosexual is a sin is because of that choice. god gave guidelines on how sex interactions are only between genders. us human who are given free chose to sexually interact with the same gender hence breaking rules set by god."but who doesn't believe in god, i guess the explanation above is irrelevant."

As far as intelligence, i rest my case. Not to be rude but the obove spoken lines from a member who has provided these lines, probably has not had the education on the subject. This is what is detremental to this society. Uneducated people spilling their off handed views of socieity. Ask this same person about Jews and African Americans and you might find the same answer. Gays??? no it is not in the vocabulary, what is that? Come to the 21st year.

Too True :sarcastic

 

[Darkness]

i guess why homosexual is a sin is because of that choice. god gave guidelines on how sex interactions are only between genders. us human who are given free chose to sexually interact with the same gender hence breaking rules set by god."but who doesn't believe in god, i guess the explanation above is irrelevant."

Why is breaking God's rules immoral? God could say riding a bicycle is immoral, but that is illogical and absurd. What harm does homosexuality do? Where is the wrong?

 

[sojourner]

Sojourner.
First point that God did create them male and female. OK? That simple??? When did this happen? In the good book? The Bible? Yes I think that is what you mean. You of course discredit all of the fossiles found and the whole theory of the big bang? Let me ask you Sojourner, where did you go to college, or university? Not that it matters just wanted to be up on your educational system.

This thread is found within the subcategory of "Biblical Debates." Therefore, we can assume that the argument is going to be...Biblical. Just because I'm reflecting what, for some, is an absolute truth, based upon what is written in the Bible, does not mean that I necessarily share that viewpoint.

Yes. The Bible says that "God created them male and female." It also says that God directs them to populate the earth. These two Biblical ideas help to form the premise of the argument that homosexuality is sinful.

While I agree that homosexuality was considered sinful by the people that wrote the Bible, and was considered sinful by the society in which they lived, I do not agree that homosexuality can be inherently sinful, nor can its status be based upon a purely Biblical POV.

My educational pedigree is a moot point where you are concerned. Suffice to say that it is valid and it is more than sufficient for our purposes here.

 

[McBell]

Breaking the rules of God is a sin.
I agree with that, actually.
Now what if following the rules of your God is breaking the rules of someone else's God?
Why is it that theists think that the rules of their God apply to everyone, but the rules of other Gods do not apply to them?

Because they do not believe those gods exist?
If this is the case, then why does the same not apply to atheists, who believe that their god does not exist?
Would this not be a double standard of the sort that is warned against here:

Matthew 7:1-2
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
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and here:

Luke 6:37
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
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[Blindinglight]

and most homosexual women are hot! few are like tomboys." "i guess why homosexual is a sin is because of that choice.

Actually, I have known a few lesbians that are obese, and many more that don't fit the modern defintion of "hot."

As far as intelligence, i rest my case. Not to be rude but the obove spoken lines from a member who has provided these lines, probably has not had the education on the subject. This is what is detremental to this society. Uneducated people spilling their off handed views of socieity.

If you research any studies, you will find out that most of the people who reject evolution and believe in a Biblical creation, reject homosexuals and transexuals, and take the Bible to be the literal word of God have completed lower levels of education. Not trying to be rude, but that has been shown time and time again. The more education you recieve, you probably will not believe in a young earth, see the Bible filled with metaphors, and will know that being homosexual or transgender is not a choice, but rather something that very little is understood about, and it is most likly caused by genetics and brain formation during fetal development.

 

[Jeremiah]

If homosexually is a choice than it stands to reason that heterosexuality is also by choice. I mean if you want to get right down to it and claim that our God given sexual desires are subject to our command than a hetorsexual male only has a sexual desire for a female because he chooses to. If you doubt that logic than choose to be a homosexual and prove it wrong. For if one person has a choice to become homosexual than surely all do.

 

[MBones]

Wow, some actual thinking in this debate. I am intrigued. The more power to those that speak in intelligent ways is very good to this debate. And that reply comes by the way of no preference to one side or the other. I would like to see all sides presented in a concise, intelligent way.

 

[sojourner]

Wow, some actual thinking in this debate. I am intrigued. The more power to those that speak in intelligent ways is very good to this debate. And that reply comes by the way of no preference to one side or the other. I would like to see all sides presented in a concise, intelligent way.

I'm glad we could all meet your criterion for our forum. I'll sleep better, now.

 

[Xbones]

Snide comments from you. I'm glad you will sleep better. But what about the discussion, how about giving you two cents. Any intelligent thoughts??

 

[Phil Lawton]

Snide comments from you.

Black pot calling black kettle...

Wow, some actual thinking in this debate.

...Come in, black kettle, over.

 

[sojourner]

Snide comments from you. I'm glad you will sleep better. But what about the discussion, how about giving you two cents. Any intelligent thoughts??

Read the thread. You will be absolutely amazed at my intellectual prowess with regard to the subject matter.


:super:

 

[Xbones]

And yet I am waiting for some good responses, after Jeremiah, he pretty much nailed it. I have nothing to say after that. For those of you who don't get his response, it is that homosexuality, is a genetic trait, and that is it. Just like heterosexuality.
You can't just learn to be straight or be tought it.