Why is homosexuality wrong?

[Sonofason]

It's not a projection but a fact that often times, not always, but often, were their is someone foaming in the mouth over homosexuality there are greatly repressed homosexual feelings and attractions. So, yes, it a curious thing as to how you'd know of these things if you haven't indulged in them. It's like the curious nature of a man who knows much about women's hygiene, grooming, and products. It's not something a man would normally know about, much how a heterosexual male generally isn't very knowledgeable of male homosexuality.

How about this. I had a room mate once...tried to help him out...seemed like a good guy. I had fallen asleep one night on the couch, and woke up with my little birdie in his mouth. I wasn't happy. I should have beat the crap out of the guy. Instead, I kicked him out of the house. My first encounter with a homosexual turned out to be a sick freak. So I think they are all sick freaks.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Cooking is unnatural. Rape is natural.

Why do people keep talking about natural, animalistic, behavior as if it better than unnatural behavior?
Tom

I don't understand the relation.

I don't think I can compare cooking as unnatural or not unless there is criteria to which I can judge that by?

Rape is unnatural given what the rapist forcefully does to his or her victim's body. It's an unhealthy form of physical sexual contact. Motives have nothing to do with it.

Natural animistic behavior? Natural just means, for example:

Food nurishes the body. Toxic chemicals does not. Food is natural. Chemicals or not. (Organic)

If I'm trying to kill myself, that's unnatural. Our bodies are made to be born, life, age, and pass on. To cut off that process of life is unnatural. (For lack of a better term).

In my view, male/male intercourse is unnatural. Like the rapist, it doesn't have to do with the motives involved-love or lust. Has nothing to do with the ethics-commitment or abuse. It's just action itself. Nothing to do with the people involved.

I think ya making it personal.

I'll flip this around. I believe it is unnatural for me to be intimate with my wife by taking a role as a guy or she as a guy in the intimacy. Paint a picture, though. I'd rather not explain it. I rather buy kid toys at Toys R Us not the market down the street.

Has nothing to do with the people. I'm just ol' fashion in that respect (my side). As for male/male, we do things that our bodies are not shaped for in many ways. Watch the Olympics or Gynast stretch their legs over their heads. Some call that natural others say it's not.

It's an opinion. Nothing special.

 

[Sonofason]

He says relax. I say die.

 

[Sonofason]

Meh. Jesus, most of the Saints and the Martyrs had a lot more fun than that.

Fun? Riding a roller coaster is fun. Dipping the noodle in excrement is not something I consider fun.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Fun? Riding a roller coaster is fun. Dipping the noodle in excrement is not something I consider fun.

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. You were likely doing it wrong or had an inconsiderate lover.

 

[Sonofason]

You are the one insisting on having sex like animals. If you are not making babies it is wrong.
That's animalistic. Humans often behave that way as well. But often we use sex as a way to enhance unions. People who are in a mutually supportive, exclusive, and committed partnership exchange gifts of pleasure.

But that's just me. You can stick to your primitive animalistic morality if you want, but don't try to force it on others.
Tom

I can certainly do everything in my power to force my morality on others...and I will.

 

[Sonofason]

I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. You were likely doing it wrong or had an inconsiderate lover.

I'm sorry I had a bad experience. If I ever have an experience like the one I had, someone will end up dead. I would say all homosexuals are inconsiderate. Well, that's my experience anyhow.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I'm sorry I had a bad experience. If I ever have an experience like the one I had, someone will end up dead. I would say all homosexuals are inconsiderate. Well, that's my experience anyhow.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. But that doesn't speak for all of male homosexuality. It's like a woman who has been raped by a man and then hates all men after that. It's certainly understandable but it's still the manifestation of unresolved trauma that should be addressed in order to be psychologically whole and healthy.

 

[Sonofason]

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. But that doesn't speak for all of male homosexuality. It's like a woman who has been raped by a man and then hates all men after that. It's certainly understandable but it's still the manifestation of unresolved trauma.

No, I believe homosexuals are sick, mentally ill people. The only kind of person who could have a good experience with one of them is another one of them.

 

[Sunstone]

I can certainly do everything in my power to force my morality on others...and I will.

Interesting. Why would you?

 

[Skwim]

I was not using an ad hominum, I actually think you write like a little kid, tossing around back handed insults because you don't like what I said, don't like my opinion, and apparently because you don't have an argument, trying to imply I'm a homosexual because I think homosexuality is so disgusting.

Backhanded insults? You're the one who implied you have a type of homosexual. "Sorry Skwim, you're not my type." So if I'm not the type of homosexual you suppose I am, then just what type of homosexual is your type? Thing is, if you don't want people asking you what kind of homosexuals you prefer then don't nudge them into asking.


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[Shadow Wolf]

I can certainly do everything in my power to force my morality on others...and I will.

Why? That's not what Christ taught, and it certainly has no place in a civilized society. People can believe what they want, but they have no right to force their beliefs on others. And that's all you have, are beliefs, and apparently a former jerk of a roommate (and, BTW, saying "little birdie" is adolescent/middle school like). Resorting to rage and violence, however, only damages your own image, as it sends a clear message that you are not a follower of peace, love, and tolerance like Jesus was and commanded of his followers. It makes no difference to me, as I do not believe in a messiah or the divinity of a Jesus (though I don't doubt there probably was some sort of teacher way back when who taught peace and was killed, and who did inspire the tales of the Messiah). But I can read the Gospels, and know you are nothing like Jesus, but more like the Inquisitors of old who did force their morality on others, and we don't think too highly of them today. Many even denounce them as "not real Christians."

 

[Sonofason]

Interesting. Why would you?

To try to make the world a better place for me.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

No, I believe homosexuals are sick, mentally ill people. The only kind of person who could have a good experience with one of them is another one of them.

I understand why you would feel that way. But God loves you and He would want you to be healed of your past traumas and to let go of your hate. It's not your fault you were victimized.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In my view, male/male intercourse is unnatural.
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I'll flip this around. I believe it is unnatural for me to be intimate with my wife by taking a role as a guy or she as a guy in the intimacy.

That, to me, does not make any sense that male/male would be unnatural but not female/female. They both involve being sexually and romantically attracted towards one sex or the other, and we know there is a deal of biology at work in either case.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

To try to make the world a better place for me.

Except this world doesn't belong to you. You may not like it, but you do have to share it.

 

[Sonofason]

Why? That's not what Christ taught, and it certainly has no place in a civilized society. People can believe what they want, but they have no right to force their beliefs on others. And that's all you have, are beliefs, and apparently a former jerk of a roommate (and, BTW, saying "little birdie" is adolescent/middle school like). Resorting to rage and violence, however, only damages your own image, as it sends a clear message that you are not a follower of peace, love, and tolerance like Jesus was and commanded of his followers. It makes no difference to me, as I do not believe in a messiah or the divinity of a Jesus (though I don't doubt there probably was some sort of teacher way back when who taught peace and was killed, and who did inspire the tales of the Messiah). But I can read the Gospels, and know you are nothing like Jesus, but more like the Inquisitors of old who did force their morality on others, and we don't think too highly of them today. Many even denounce them as "not real Christians."

The queer is still alive. I wanted to kill him. But I know what is the right thing to do. And that is what I did. That is what I do. And I am not going to say that homosexuality is okay, because that is a lie. It is not okay.
I am not here to bring peace and love to the world. I am here to judge the world. So that is what I do.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

That, to me, does not make any sense that male/male would be unnatural but not female/female. They both involve being sexually and romantically attracted towards one sex or the other, and we know there is a deal of biology at work in either case.

I said that male/male is unnatural-the intercourse
Female/Female is unnatural given the extra equipment involved.

I flipped the situation so it won't be all male/male. I gave an example that if my wife and I were intimate, I rather be ol' fashion. I rather buy toys at Toy's R Us (children's toy store) not the market down the street.

It's on both sides. I did it that way so I won't get the reply you just made. So, I don't know where you got that from honestly.

I believe it is unnatural for me to be intimate with my wife by taking a role as a guy or she as a guy in the intimacy (you can't isolate this, though. This was in context with my comment above)​

 

[Sonofason]

Except this world doesn't belong to you. You may not like it, but you do have to share it.

That's true. I will tolerate what I choose to tolerate.

 

[Sonofason]

I understand why you would feel that way. But God loves you and He would want you to be healed of your past traumas and to let go of your hate. It's not your fault you were victimized.

No friend, God does not love everyone. That's a myth.

• Psalm 5:5 "The boastful shall not stand before Thine eyes; Thou dost hate all who do iniquity,"
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• Psalm 11:5 "The Lord tests the righteous and the wicked, and the one who loves violence His soul hates."
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• Lev. 20:23 "Moreover, you shall not follow the customs of the nation which I shall drive out before you, for they did all these things, and therefore I have abhorred them."
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• Prov. 6:16-19 "There are six things which the Lord hates, yes, seven which are an abomination to Him: Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, feet that run rapidly to evil, A false witness who utters lies, and one who spreads strife among brothers."
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• Hosea 9:15 "All their evil is at Gilgal; indeed, I came to hate them there! Because of the wickedness of their deeds I will drive them out of My house! I will love them no more; All their princes are rebels."