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Why is homosexuality wrong?
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SkepticThinker
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Unveiled Artist
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Homosexuality (same-sex orientation) is not a sin. In my opinion, which I honestly don't know if this a religious view, the only thing I feel is unnatural (sin isn't the appropriate word) is doing specific actions against the way the body is made to perform. Other than that specific action, I see nothing unnatural about it. Gender shouldn't exclude anyone from having the same intimacy with someone they love than someone else who differs in morals.
I agree, the only sin (which is a sin) @Rick O'Shez said, the bigotry is more the sin. In my words, not the intimacy itself.
I don't know anything about pansexuality and find the different names for our sexuality piling up a bit interesting to say the least. I am uncomfortable with dating someone who is bisexual (I am lesbian). I honestly feel personally betrayed, in a sense. I don't know, I can't explain it. Think of a straight man going out with a bisexual woman. There is a sense in him that "she is not all his-as a guy" but his manhood, I guess you can say (assuming) is kind of put down because she likes women as well. It kind of sets back the man's role or even ego. This is an assumption but if it's true, this is the closest how I can explain why bisexuality is uncomfortable to me.
As for pansexuality, I looked it up. I don't know the difference between that and bisexuality other than many bisexuals have preferences and I assume pansexuals do not? I would have the same feeling as above.
A shorter way to put it is if a woman cheated on me, I rather her cheated on me with another woman and not a man. Even though she may be bisexual, it just seems she sees me differently because of her identity than a lesbian would. Different perspective.
I agree, the only sin (which is a sin) @Rick O'Shez said, the bigotry is more the sin. In my words, not the intimacy itself.
I don't know anything about pansexuality and find the different names for our sexuality piling up a bit interesting to say the least. I am uncomfortable with dating someone who is bisexual (I am lesbian). I honestly feel personally betrayed, in a sense. I don't know, I can't explain it. Think of a straight man going out with a bisexual woman. There is a sense in him that "she is not all his-as a guy" but his manhood, I guess you can say (assuming) is kind of put down because she likes women as well. It kind of sets back the man's role or even ego. This is an assumption but if it's true, this is the closest how I can explain why bisexuality is uncomfortable to me.
As for pansexuality, I looked it up. I don't know the difference between that and bisexuality other than many bisexuals have preferences and I assume pansexuals do not? I would have the same feeling as above.
A shorter way to put it is if a woman cheated on me, I rather her cheated on me with another woman and not a man. Even though she may be bisexual, it just seems she sees me differently because of her identity than a lesbian would. Different perspective.
And?
It's not the only way either. Gay people have the same parts as everyone else.
Aye, I absolutely agree!
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Unveiled Artist
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I don't think those are necessarily gay people. I'm not married in my 35 and I only hang out with men. I kiss men too, hold their hands and call them darling. But I'm not gay
But in all honesty, Japanese anime does have that openly.
Culture? I was watching something about different cultures and their comfortableness around each other. I rarely see Americans hold hands. Here, you might get "yes dear" from a youngin' but not darlin' ... hm.
Servant_of_the_One1
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Allah forbade homosexuality because the right course from islamic perspective is marriage between man and woman.
I see that as strong evidence that your god image is a fictional character in ancient literature.
My partner has four kids and a flock of grandkids. In fact, I wish the kids would get over the procreating and take better care of the ones that they already have.
Tom
To more explicitly respond to the OP, I, personally, make no issue about who's gay, who's straight, who's... whoever. In the end, I believe in God who made EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US FROM THE SAME THING, DUST.
Being gay, straight, bi, pan, whatever don't make any one of us more loved in the eyes of God than any other, any more or less equal than any other, at least, inherently.
Bahá’u’lláh’s Words, for me, truly get out there my perspective. He says,
“O CHILDREN OF MEN! Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul, to walk with the same feet, eat with the same mouth and dwell in the same land, that from your inmost being, by your deeds and actions, the signs of oneness and the essence of detachment may be made manifest. Such is My counsel to you, O concourse of light! Heed ye this counsel that ye may obtain the fruit of holiness from the tree of wondrous glory.”
So, with this in mind, I must ask:
Why in the world are we debating AT ALL?
Being gay, straight, bi, pan, whatever don't make any one of us more loved in the eyes of God than any other, any more or less equal than any other, at least, inherently.
Bahá’u’lláh’s Words, for me, truly get out there my perspective. He says,
“O CHILDREN OF MEN! Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul, to walk with the same feet, eat with the same mouth and dwell in the same land, that from your inmost being, by your deeds and actions, the signs of oneness and the essence of detachment may be made manifest. Such is My counsel to you, O concourse of light! Heed ye this counsel that ye may obtain the fruit of holiness from the tree of wondrous glory.”
So, with this in mind, I must ask:
Why in the world are we debating AT ALL?
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IOW, Allah wanted it because it's in accordance with the will of Allah?
Circular reasoning is circular.
Servant_of_the_One1
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LOOOOL You are so funnyWe (men) even call each other sweetheart here and hug tight
If man calls me sweetheart i would be cautious LOL
I don't think I have much of a problem with anyone else's sexuality. I guess I used to decades ago.
The closest I come to having such a problem now is realizing that some people feel uncertain or all out unconfortable when they have to acknowledge that other people are not necessarily cisgendered and heterosexual. It is not necessarily or even often due to malice; many people need their social roles for reference and safety, and those may easily lack the means for acknowledfging minority sexuality.
The closest I come to having such a problem now is realizing that some people feel uncertain or all out unconfortable when they have to acknowledge that other people are not necessarily cisgendered and heterosexual. It is not necessarily or even often due to malice; many people need their social roles for reference and safety, and those may easily lack the means for acknowledfging minority sexuality.
I did not make the quote attributed to me.
Heck in the original unedited Sailor Moon there were several gay and lesbian characters. And it aired back in 1992 as a kids cartoon.
Endorses rape?
A reference to Aisha, I assume.
Although it could just as easily be Lot and his daughters.
Although it could just as easily be Lot and his daughters.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
The acts themselves are unnatural and not intended by our Creator, IMO. Celibacy is a moral choice not condemned in the Bible, and sterility is a medical condition. However, the Scriptures make it clear that sex between unmarried persons, and adultery are also serious sins in God's eyes.
Skwim
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Yet he created people who can't help but be homosexual. The real question is, of course, why do homosexual acts displease god so much that made them a sin. Oh, never mind. You've already answered. . . .
Kind of like all the infertile people who god detests, and all the heterosexual bachelors and spinsters in the world who god detests, and all the other heterosexuals who, for whatever other reason don't bare children, god detests. But if this child bearing thing is the reason god hates homosexual activities then I have to imagine that engaging in them would be just fine if homosexuals also bore children.
So you think that people choose to be homosexual? Of course you do because you can clearly recall when it came your turn to choose. "Hmmm. I do believe I will be heterosexual. Yup that's it. I'm going to be attracted to women.
To everyone else here, I know I'm beating a dead horse, but when statements like rusra02's appear it's like coming across a Wack-A-Mole game.
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