Why is homosexuality wrong?

[columbus]

The acts themselves are unnatural

So is cooking.
What is natural is impulsive sex and theft. That is what other animals do, whenever they get a chance.
It is moral behavior that is unnatural. Animals don't think through the long term consequences of their behavior, so they are amoral. That is what is truly natural behavior.
Tom

 

[sovietchild]

The people qualified to assess whether or not it's a mental disorder, say that it is not a mental disorder.

http://study.com/academy/course/abnormal-psych.html > Chapter 17

Please tell me the rest of your post is a joke. (?)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to say. I don't know where you are from, but in America if you go to a public place where they have a TV (gym for example) you might see (a show on a free local station/tv) a men lying with another men in the bed kissing each other. #2. In America there is a law where every commercial and movie has to have at list 1 afro-american, and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

And meanwhile there is a thread like this: http://www.religiousforums.com/threads/islam-will-never-allow-homosexuality.189440/

<sigh>

 

[ADigitalArtist]

http://study.com/academy/course/abnormal-psych.html > Chapter 17



I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to say. I don't know where you are from, but in America if you go to a public place where they have a TV (gym for example) you might see (a show on a free local station/tv) a men lying with another men in the bed kissing each other. #2. In America there is a law where every commercial and movie has to have at list 1 afro-american, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Outside the norm does not equal disorder, which is a specific medical status multiple international health organizations have emphasized homosexuals do not equality for.

Good. Inclusion is nice, and there should be push for equal representation in media. Though this isn't true and there are hundreds if not thousands of modern commercials and television shows without sexual minorities and ethnic minorities.

 

[jeager106]

PANSEXUAL: One who identifies as gender-blind, and feels that gender and sex are insignificant in determining attraction.

I guess that sorta fits me also.
My recovery sponsor is openly gay. He's white, his "partner" is openly gay and black.
Soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo what?????
My Dolores and I have lunch with them and adore them both.
What's wrong with that?
My recovery sponsor helps keep me ALIVE.
I've nearly died from alcoholism. Family genetic trait evidently as the disease killed
both mom and dad and my only sibling suffers still. If she is still alive?
Perhaps I'm "gender non specific" or I just don't give a damn about such trivial stuff?
Get this! My gay sponsor LOVES me and I LOVE him. Agape love, the love of one
suffering person for another. Love of one human for another.
What in 'ell do I care what sexual preference people have?
Oh, yeah. I'm also a devout Christian. Likely I'll end up in hell for my open mind.

 

[jeager106]

Ah, to be clear.
A homosexual act is abhorrent to ME.
I couldn't consider such a thing.
Me like'em women!
In my youth I was a legend in my own mind.

 

[Acim]

The acts themselves are unnatural and not intended by our Creator, IMO. Celibacy is a moral choice not condemned in the Bible, and sterility is a medical condition. However, the Scriptures make it clear that sex between unmarried persons, and adultery are also serious sins in God's eyes.

One would think that marriage between same-sex partners, who remain celibate, would be perfectly okay in God's eyes, and that religious people ought to be promoting that. And/or that religious people would be equally bent out of shape over heterosexual relations whenever they occur between unmarried people. Like all the vehement opposition to homosexuality would be equal (in passion) to all heterosexual people, who happen to be unmarried. The way I see religious people getting around this is encouraging them to be married / honoring the marriage. Even while bible contains the words "do not marry."

From my personal spiritual perspective, I do see how sexual activities can be seen as unholy, but not the attraction. I don't see how (physical) marriage actually changes the activity into 'holy relationship,' nor do I see God viewing it that way. Takes a rather mean spirited type wording in ancient scripture to come to conclusions that suggests God is favorable/unfavorable toward certain sexual activities and okay/not okay with others. I see God (or more like Holy Spirit) being like: "choose this instead" (this being, spiritual love of all, as yourself). Hence, the 2 greatest commandments.

 

[SkepticThinker]

http://study.com/academy/course/abnormal-psych.html > Chapter 17

Not sure why you've linked me to a course on Abnormal Psych. (I actually took the course years ago.)

Psychiatrists and psychologists do not consider homosexuality to be a mental disorder:
http://www.apa.org/topics/lgbt/orientation.aspx

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are trying to say. I don't know where you are from, but in America if you go to a public place where they have a TV (gym for example) you might see (a show on a free local station/tv) a men lying with another men in the bed kissing each other. #2. In America there is a law where every commercial and movie has to have at list 1 afro-american, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I thought the rest of your post was kind of silly.
You might also see a violent terrorist attack on the news. Or a commercial about suffering animals or children. Or a movie with people getting their brains blown out. What's so terrible about seeing a gay couple?

I'm from Canada. I'm usually pretty up on what's going on in the US. I've never heard of such a law.


The human race is a diverse one. Should that not be reflected in our popular culture and media? Many different kinds of people exist in real life, why shouldn't they also exist in TV and movie land?

Nobody's forcing you to watch anything on television. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

 

[viole]

The acts themselves are unnatural

Everything that exists in nature is natural, by definition. To label things as "against the course of nature" is a fallacy, that strongly assumes in its premises that there is such a thing as a course of nature.

Or do you maybe think that gay acts are supernatural?

Ciao

- viole

 

[LuisDantas]

Allah forbade homosexuality because the right course from islamic perspective is marriage between man and woman.

Which, of course, is another way of saying that Islamic culture does not allow itself to consider whether there is anything wrong with homosexuality.

Well, at least it is a clear stance.

 

[jeager106]

Aw gee whiz.
I'm a heterosexual male and like (love) females.
Does that put me in a minority?
I have NO IDEA why people are,become, choose, to be homosexual.
Not my place to judge anyone.
I am a Christian of no denomination but have an open mind and not about to
condemn anyone for sexual choices as long as there isn't a sound law prohibiting
such activities.
Like screwing an animal or having sex with an innocent child.
Otherwise it just ain't non of this heterosexuals business.
Now if two girls wanna get it on and draw a crowd it's o.k. with me.
Does that make me a pervert?
If so why so many men that like the notion of such?
No I've never watched 2 girls do such and likely would not as it would
embarrass the #ell out of me.

 

[jeager106]

If interested in Biblical prohibitions about homosexuality google it.
Lots of info on the web.

Personally I see two men getting it on as repulsive.
Two females....................well whatever.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

So is cooking.

Cooking is definitely unnatural.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The real question is what is wrong with those people who practice homosexuality?

Absolutely nothing. The real question is why do people make something that is none of their damn business their business?

We (men) even call each other sweetheart here and hug tight

Here in America that would be considered "really gay." We also tend to keep more of a physical proximity between ourselves than people do in many other cultures, such as your own. It really is fascinating to learn of such differences and how our very culture shapes our worldview and interpretations of various acts and gestures.

The acts themselves are unnatural

We've know homosexual acts is something our species has long partook in, and do many other species. What is unnatural is computer you're using, and the internet and satellite signals beaming around all over the place.

http://study.com/academy/course/abnormal-psych.html > Chapter 17

Abnormal Psych is one of many psychology courses I've taken. None of them, including Abnormal Psychology, mention homosexuality as abnormal. Not even your link mentions homosexuality under the sexual disorders chapter.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

The real question is why do people make something that is none of their damn business their business?

Yes, I find this rather puzzling.

 

[Parsimony]

The acts themselves are unnatural and not intended by our Creator, IMO. Celibacy is a moral choice not condemned in the Bible, and sterility is a medical condition. However, the Scriptures make it clear that sex between unmarried persons, and adultery are also serious sins in God's eyes.

So why did you bring the inability to create offspring as a charge against homosexuality if the inability to create offspring is not, in fact, sinful?

 

[columbus]

For most of human history people lived in communities that were usually on the brink of extinction. From high rates of infant mortality to higher rates of failed pregnancy to war and epidemics, the existential risks were always in the back of everyone's mind.
So of course, the societies that were more likely to survive enforced laws resulting in maximum procreation. The Israelites did that, and survived to be copied by the Christians and Muslims. Not because any supernatural being said to, but because they created God in their own image.

However, it is now the 21st century and humans are more threatened by overpopulation than underpopulation. But Abrahamic religious people can't admit that their scripture is wrong, because that would be admitting to a whole lot of other things that they prefer not to believe.

The homophobic tendencies of the Abrahamic religious texts are solid evidence that they are fiction from long ago. They have no moral authority in a world with 7,000,000,000 people.
Tom

 

[von bek]

#2. In America there is a law where every commercial and movie has to have at list 1 afro-american, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Please cite this law.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Please cite this law.

It think it's some racist crap that got started how many ever years ago. My mom keeps mentioning it, but I've never heard of any actual laws. I just tried to find any such laws, but the closest thing I could find even remotely related to the subject indicates there is no such law (it's a poorly written article that seems written by someone who is oblivious as to how casting works).
http://www.indiewire.com/2014/07/wo...ole-calls-for-one-whatever-that-means-158899/
Woody Allen Says He Won’t Hire a Black Actor Unless the Role Calls for One... Whatever That Means

 

[von bek]

It think it's some racist crap that got started how many ever years ago. My mom keeps mentioning it, but I've never heard of any actual laws. I just tried to find any such laws, but the closest thing I could find even remotely related to the subject indicates there is no such law (it's a poorly written article that seems written by someone who is oblivious as to how casting works).
http://www.indiewire.com/2014/07/wo...ole-calls-for-one-whatever-that-means-158899/
Woody Allen Says He Won’t Hire a Black Actor Unless the Role Calls for One... Whatever That Means

Oh, I know there is no actual law stating what is claimed.

In the NFL, (National Football League for the non-Americans reading this.) there is a league rule that for every coaching job open on a team, at least one African-American must be interviewed. That is the closest thing I can think of, and even this rule makes no mandate about actually HIRING a black coach.