Why is Islam so dangerous?

[Firemorphic]

Do you think Salman Rushdie should have been punished?

No but perhaps a slap on the wrist for being a little silly twat.

 

[Notanumber]

Salman Rushdie wrote a book. And no there was no need to condem him or punish him for writing a book.

Cat stevens to use his british name, actually say he was misrepresented when they say he was condeming Rushdie.

Would that be in the same that the Quran is supposedly being misrepresented?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Would that be in the same that the Quran is supposedly being misrepresented?

In my understanding the extremists within Islam do hold a wrong understanding of the Quran yes,So what they try to force upon others is false teaching. (not all muslim imams give false teaching)

 

[Notanumber]

In my understanding the extremists within Islam do hold a wrong understanding of the Quran yes,So what they try to force upon others is false teaching. (not all muslim imams give false teaching)

I wonder what radicalised Cat Stevens so quickly or did he think he was just being Islamic.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I wonder what radicalised Cat Stevens so quickly or did he think he was just being Islamic.

Can you give an example of what terror he has done or if he has killed someone in name of Islam?
he vigorously condemned the terrorist acts of September 11, 2001, you still think he is a terrorist?

 

[Notanumber]

Can you give an example of what terror he has done or if he has killed someone in name of Islam?
he vigorously condemned the terrorist acts of September 11, 2001, you still think he is a terrorist?

I watched his lips move and heard what he said about Salman.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I watched his lips move and heard what he said about Salman.

And because of that you start to dislike only him or all islam? That is a question not an opinion form me.

 

[Notanumber]

And because of that you start to dislike only him or all islam? That is a question not an opinion form me.

I dislike what Islam does to people.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I dislike what Islam does to people.

You do realise it is the people who do wrong deed to other people, not the Islam in it self.?
If you have a 100 people who misunderstand the text in the quran, yes they can become really evil people, But if you then have millions of people who see that it is not right to kill because of belief or some words in the quran, would it not be the extremists who is wrong and not the religion?

 

[Shad]

Believe what you want.

No I read the text in context. You didn't. It has nothing to do with belief.

The people were gathered at the foot of the mountain for a reason -- and they had taken three days to become ritually pure for the revelation for a reason.

They were waiting for Chinese whispers from Moses as per your own source.

Furthermore the verse stating that God spoke leaves out "to Moses" for a significant reason.

Again you are not reading the chapter not the chapter before it. Try again.

If you want to believe otherwise, that's on you.

It isn't a belief. It says it in Exodus 19:25. Try again.

 

[Notanumber]

You do realise it is the people who do wrong deed to other people, not the Islam in it self.?
If you have a 100 people who misunderstand the text in the quran, yes they can become really evil people, But if you then have millions of people who see that it is not right to kill because of belief or some words in the quran, would it not be the extremists who is wrong and not the religion?

Would there have been as many atrocities over the centuries and to this day if Islam had never existed?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Would there have been as many atrocities over the centuries and to this day if Islam had never existed?

Yes.

 

[Notanumber]

Yes.

Could you say the same if Muhammad had never existed?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Could you say the same if Muhammad had never existed?

Yes

 

[Raymann]

The so called teachers in the mosque are false teachers, they do not teach true Islam.

That is a bomb. Do you realize what you just said?
Muslims rely heavily on Scholars and Imams to interpret the Quran and Hadith. For the most part, they don't interpret the scriptures on their own. If the Imams are not reliable then they have a huge problem and that is a big reason why Islam is a dangerous religion. Many of their religious leaders are violent, intolerant and separatists.

You do realise it is the people who do wrong deed to other people, not the Islam in it self.?

Then how do you explain this:

Top Ten Quran Verses for Understanding ISIS (the Islamic State)

That's the Quran itself, how would you interpret those verses? I know many people consider David Wood an Islamophobe but can you challenge him and his facts?

 

[Spirit of Light]

That is a bomb. Do you realize what you just said?
Muslims rely heavily on Scholars and Imams to interpret the Quran and Hadith. For the most part, they don't interpret the scriptures on their own. If the Imams are not reliable then they have a huge problem and that is a big reason why Islam is a dangerous religion. Many of their religious leaders are violent, intolerant and separatists.

Then how do you explain this:

Top Ten Quran Verses for Understanding ISIS (the Islamic State)

That's the Quran itself, how would you interpret those verses? I know many people consider David Wood an Islamophobe but can you challenge him and his facts?

I did say Some Imams are false, Not everyone.

When it comes to the verses in the video.
What people do not seem to understand is that it is not literally killing that is meant, but the use of the wisdom of the Islamic teaching that is meant when one should "kill" those who do not believe.
Except for in a war, then Muslims are allowed to use killing to defend them self.
(and yes Mohammad did come from a warrior family, )

The person in the video only looks at the Wrongdoings that are written about in the Quran. but if he had read it page by page he would have found a lot of very good moral verses too. and it actually says that one should not kill in the Quran too.

Example with the slaves, even it does say the things he quoted, does that mean every Muslim HAS to follow it? No, it does not. One should use the wisdom to see that bad actions toward others are wrongdoing. and should not be done. But ISIS does not understand this

So yes if you look you can find many bad things in the Quran, just as in the old testament of the Bible that also explain very similar to the Quran.

But the most important you seem to forget EVERY time. is the person who is Muslim. They are free to choose if they want to do good or bad deeds. And 99% of all Muslims are good. You only focus on the ISIS people. and as I have said before, they do not understand the Quran, because they only see the violence within it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Would there have been as many atrocities over the centuries and to this day if Islam had never existed?

Most of the atrocities over the centuries have been due to the desire for more land and resources. Such would certainly have existed without Islam.

 

[Notanumber]

Yes.

Yes

Historical evidence contradicts both of those answers.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Historical evidence contradicts both of those answers.

I do not think we will gain any more from this discussion. Because we are too far apart from each other in understanding and view of Islam as a religion. But that's ok.

 

[Notanumber]

Most of the atrocities over the centuries have been due to the desire for more land and resources. Such would certainly have existed without Islam.

Islam was fearful weapon used to achieve those aims and unfortunately, it has not reformed.