Why is Islam so dangerous?

[Notanumber]

Then check yourself.

I do not preach hatred of others but I find hateful ideologies disgusting.

Did you watch the video in post #897?

 

[Firemorphic]

David Wood is a convicted felon.

And a failure as a polemicist, his "arguments" are pure conjecture. He's just an internet personality, not a serious intellectual figure trying to do anything in the world. The fact that people follow him at all is a sign that this social media age is only going more downhill and are just throwing the ability to have critical discourse out of the window for pure fastfood, McDonalds laziness. Sad but true.

 

[Firemorphic]

I do not preach hatred of others but I find hateful ideologies disgusting.

No, you do preach and you also have a habit of never noticing that you're pants are unzipped.

 

[Notanumber]

No, you do preach and you also have a habit of never noticing that you're pants are unzipped.

At least I am not trying to defend the indefensible.

 

[Firemorphic]

At least I am not trying to defend the indefensible.

Lol, I'll invite you to the next stand up, that was a good gag.

 

[Notanumber]

Lol, I'll invite you to the next stand up, that was a good gag.

Islam could use some levity.

 

[Raymann]

David Wood

a failure as a polemicist, his "arguments" are pure conjecture. He's just an internet personality, not a serious intellectual figure trying to do anything in the world.

I would agree that he's not the best live debater but not because of his knowledge on the topic.
From Wikipedia:
"went to college at Old Dominion University where he earned a bachelor's degree. He later earned a doctorate in philosophy in the philosophy of religion from Fordham University. While studying at Old Dominion University, he was challenged to convert to Islam by his roommate, Nabeel Qureshi (an Ahmadi), and went about investigating the life of Mohammed using the earliest sources, including Ibn Ishaq's Life of Muhammad (the earliest extant biography of Muhammad); the hadith collections of Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim (considered by Sunni Muslims to be the two most reliable or sahih collections of Muhammad's statements, actions, and example); and the History of the Prophets and Kings by Al-Tabari (one of Islam's greatest historians).[11] Concluding that the Quran and Mohammed's example did not simply describe violence in the past (as in the Christian Bible per his assertion), but rather commanded ongoing violence, he took up the mantle as a Christian apologist.[11] His roommate Nabeel eventually went on to become a Christian apologist as well.[2]"

The fact that people follow him at all is a sign that this social media age is only going more downhill and are just throwing the ability to have critical discourse out of the window for pure fastfood, McDonalds laziness.

Why don't you demonstrate your critical discourse abilities by proving that the passages mentioned by David Wood were "pure conjecture" as you stated. It seems that you're attacking the person but not the points he's making.

 

[Ancient Soul]

No, you didn't present ANY FACTS AT ALL.
Ok, let's do it.
Here you totally lost me.
What shootings, vandalism, etc, etc, etc, are you talking about?
Be specific, back up your facts with links.

Now here comes your BIG QUESTION:

First of all, I don't hate any Muslims, is that clear?, "I DON'T HATE MUSLIMS, I HATE VIOLENCE".

YOU WANT FACTS OF MUSLIMS VIOLENCE?

Ok, here we go:

List of Killings in the Name of Islam: 2019


Your turn, prove all that is wrong.

Ha, go back and see the facts I presented all by yourself. I'm not falling for the old merry-go-round game of going back and re-presenting the facts over and over for you to ignore and keep on coming back with your baseless rants on how much you hate Muslims and trying to use deceit and twisting of historical facts to suit your own bigotry.

And of my question of:

"Now of all the mass shootings, vandalism and threats against various religions, hate movements in America, etc, the vast majority of which is done by white people, and I don't recall ANY of the Muslims being behind any of it."

That's up to YOU to present some facts. Not a made up list from some hate group.

And BTW - That small list you linked to belonging to a hate group is unsubstantiated. It's also minuscule compared to the massive blood soaked history of the Christians. So why don't you hate them all as well? Is it because Christianity is most popular with white people, so doesn't fit into your bigotry? And as I keep on repeating, but you refuse to listen, that small list is no reason to hate all the millions of Muslims who lead peaceful lives.

 

[Notanumber]

That small list you linked to belonging to a hate group is unsubstantiated.

I recognised some that were on that list but most do not get reported by the MSM.

We have seen much more coverage of New Zealand than we ever did of Sri Lanka.

Why don’t CAIR and these Muslim Councils use some of their financial resources to provide similar lists of all these “Christian Atrocities”?

If they have, please post a link and we can compare them.

 

[Notanumber]

Who knew about the three angels?

Ayaan Hirsi Ali is a marvellous educator about the Religion of Terror.

 

[Raymann]

Ha, go back and see the facts I presented all by yourself. I'm not falling for the old merry-go-round game of going back and re-presenting the facts over and over for you to ignore and keep on coming back with your baseless rants on how much you hate Muslims and trying to use deceit and twisting of historical facts to suit your own bigotry.

And of my question of:

"Now of all the mass shootings, vandalism and threats against various religions, hate movements in America, etc, the vast majority of which is done by white people, and I don't recall ANY of the Muslims being behind any of it."

That's up to YOU to present some facts. Not a made up list from some hate group.

And BTW - That small list you linked to belonging to a hate group is unsubstantiated. It's also minuscule compared to the massive blood soaked history of the Christians. So why don't you hate them all as well? Is it because Christianity is most popular with white people, so doesn't fit into your bigotry? And as I keep on repeating, but you refuse to listen, that small list is no reason to hate all the millions of Muslims who lead peaceful lives.

You're just a waste of time.

Who Killed Prophet Muhammad and what we learn from his death

 

[Notanumber]

We are living in desperate times.

 

[sooda]

That's the difference between you and Muslims, they are supposed to follow the teachings like slaves.


Stop making up your own definitions of a religion you know very little. Can you quote from the Quran where does it say Islam should do good in the world regardless of religious beliefs?
I dare you to find it the scriptures
No BS this time, only Islamic scriptures accepted as credible answers.
That's exactly what I said. Muslims need to have an Iman to teach them Islam but that is not a requirement in today day as all the resources are available online.

Here is a man who used to be Muslim and pretty much a fanatic Islamist. He tried to convince David Wood that Islam was the real religion. Both started analyzing and comparing both religions with an open mind and guess what they found out?
Nabeel Qureshi // Why I stopped believing Islam is a religion of peace

Nabeel Qureshi was an American Christian and convert from the Ahmadiyya sect of Islam. He was a speaker with Ravi Zacharias International Ministries from 2013 until 2016 and the author of three books, Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus: A Devout Muslim Encounters Christianity, Answering Jihad: A Better Way Forward, and No God But One—Allah or Jesus.

He's writing books and making money dissing Islam and interpreting it for you. He's a punk.

 

[sooda]

No, you didn't present ANY FACTS AT ALL.
Ok, let's do it.
Here you totally lost me.
What shootings, vandalism, etc, etc, etc, are you talking about?
Be specific, back up your facts with links.

Now here comes your BIG QUESTION:

First of all, I don't hate any Muslims, is that clear?, "I DON'T HATE MUSLIMS, I HATE VIOLENCE".

YOU WANT FACTS OF MUSLIMS VIOLENCE?

Ok, here we go:

List of Killings in the Name of Islam: 2019


Your turn, prove all that is wrong.

Have you categorized all violence and killing worldwide? Murders in the US and Syria?

 

[Raymann]

He (Nabeel Qureshi)'s writing books and making money dissing Islam and interpreting it for you. He's a punk.

HE IS A PUNK?
Why, because he left Islam?
Are you an apostate sympathizer?
He is a PunK?
Why, because he converted to Christianly?
Oh, he is a punk because he made money writing books telling the truth about Islam.?
I see, he is a punk because he tried to explain the good, the bad and the ugly about the Islamic culture.
Sorry, I can try all day to explain your reasoning but still, I cannot comprehend it.
Why exactly was he a punk?

Have you categorized all violence and killing worldwide? Murders in the US and Syria?

During this time period (5 months in 2019), there were 737 Islamic attacks in 40 countries, in which 4052 people were killed and 4388 injured.
We are only dealing with religion-related crimes.
I'm having a lot of trouble finding anything remotely close to those figures from any other religion.
Do you have any links to murders in the US and Syria caused strictly by Christians claiming to do it in the name of the religion?

 

[sooda]

HE IS A PUNK?
Why, because he left Islam?
Are you an apostate sympathizer?
He is a PunK?
Why, because he converted to Christianly?
Oh, he is a punk because he made money writing books telling the truth about Islam.?
I see, he is a punk because he tried to explain the good, the bad and the ugly about the Islamic culture.
Sorry, I can try all day to explain your reasoning but still, I cannot comprehend it.
Why exactly was he a punk?


During this time period (5 months in 2019), there were 737 Islamic attacks in 40 countries, in which 4052 people were killed and 4388 injured.
We are only dealing with religion-related crimes.
I'm having a lot of trouble finding anything remotely close to those figures from any other religion.
Do you have any links to murders in the US and Syria caused strictly by Christians claiming to do it in the name of the religion?

He's free to leave Islam.. He's a punk and a rather sissified one to earn his living spreading hate and misinformation. That has become very popular in the past 20 years.

"Christians" don't do mass murder and neither do Muslims.

 

[Raymann]

He's free to leave Islam. He's a punk and a rather sissified one to earn his living spreading hate and misinformation. That has become very popular in the past 20 years.

And I'm sure you can prove that he was (he's dead now) spreading hate and misinformation.
Let me remind you that he was a fanatic Muslim trying to convince others that Islam was the only real religion.
His problem was that he was intelligent and had an open mind (unlike you), so he was willing to investigate the bad claims about Islam and he had to accept based on facts on the table that Islam is a false religion.
Accepting you are wrong is not an easy thing to do so I admire his courage to resign to Islam and head in what he considered the right direction.
I'm saying this and I'm not a Christian myself.
Still, he never hated Islam nor Muslims, he just accepted the truth. Not believing in Islam doesn't make you hate it automatically.

"Christians" don't do mass murder and neither do Muslims.

Yes, they do.
Muslims have done mass murders very often throughout history.
Not very long ago ISIS and Boko Haram have done it a few times.
How about the Armenian Genocide (1.5 million Armenians killed)
Doesn't that qualify as mass murder to you?

Armenian_Genocide

 

[Ancient Soul]

You're just a waste of time.

Who Killed Prophet Muhammad and what we learn from his death

Ha, ha, ha...

What's the matter, you don't like it when people won't buy into your bigoted hate speeches?

Here, I'll give you a link of the mass killings in America. Now tell me how many of the killers were Muslims:

http://timelines.latimes.com/deadliest-shooting-rampages/

And here's a couple of lists of the blood soaked Christian history:

Killings for Christianity

Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades

And here's a homicide list for the U.S.:

United States of America Number of homicides, 2000-2018 - knoema.com

Now tell me how many of the murders were done by Muslims?

And don't forget, hate is a poison to both the body and the soul.

 

[Ancient Soul]

I recognised some that were on that list but most do not get reported by the MSM.

We have seen much more coverage of New Zealand than we ever did of Sri Lanka.

Why don’t CAIR and these Muslim Councils use some of their financial resources to provide similar lists of all these “Christian Atrocities”?

If they have, please post a link and we can compare them.

Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades
Killings for Christianity

 

[Notanumber]

Christian Atrocities | Victims of Christianity | Catholic Church Inquisition | Crusades
Killings for Christianity

The site that you linked to is obviously impartial. You must believe it is as well or you would not have linked to it.

Both the Christians and Islamists have a despicable history, which cannot be denied.

I doubt very much that any recent pope or modern Catholicism would wish to revisit those dreadful times. Modern Islamism still has the same aims and ambitions of its founder Muhammad.

Thank you for the link.

This is an excerpt.

Everyone should support a "War on Islamism"
Nobody should support a war on Islam, but everybody should support a war on Islamism.

Islamism is not simply a religious philosophy that one is free not to follow. Islamism is a political movement that aims to impose itself by force on those who disagree. Islamism aims to impose religious Sharia Law on the whole world, ending human rights and civil liberties, ending freedom of religion, ending freedom of speech, and ending freedom of sexuality. Islamism threatens us and everything we love, and will always threaten us, until it is defeated. A War on Islamism is something that every Christian, Jew, atheist, Hindu or other infidel should support. A War on Islamism is something that every freedom-loving Muslim should support. Islamism - or any other philosophy that imposes religion by force - should have no place in our world. A War on Islamism is a no-brainer, like a War on Fascism. Every liberal and every leftist should support a War on Islamism.

• The British novelist Ian McEwan caused a storm in 2008 by saying: "I myself despise Islamism, because it wants to create a society that I detest, based on religious belief, on a text, on lack of freedom for women, intolerance towards homosexuality and so on".
• Incredibly, many people were outraged by this. But every single person in the West should agree with this. Every Muslim in the West should agree with this.

Islamic Fascism

Ian McEwan: Criticising Islam is not racist