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Why is Satan the bad guy?

Altfish

Veteran Member
He killed way more people than God according to the Bible.
Didn't God kill something like 2,000,000 whereas Satan killed just Job's children after God had given him permission to do so.

Yes, Satan has had a bad press.
 

Ahanit

Active Member
because humans want to have an excuse for doing the wrong.... they want someone who has the fault...

There is no need for logical explanations that millions more are tortured and murdered in the name of a monotheistic god than in the name of Satan or that most crimes said to be satanics never take place or where in the end done by believers of monotheistic faith....

If you are a shaphard you need sheep, But Sheep only follow you when there is something they are feared of... And who has the fault for all bad things in the same moment That something for monotheistic paths is Satan and anyone else who disturb the relationship between the Shephard and his sheep, if they come to near, that can be everyone who has another faith, another religion, who looks not like "Normal sheep", Who has the bad manner to think themselve...

It has nothing to do with Satan or Lucifer or ...., how ever you want to name the counterpart. The shepard needs the wolf or bear or something else to fear and as whipping boy (? Is that the right term? German Sündenbock) for all bad...
 

Aiviu

Active Member
I just don't understand why Satan is supposed to be a baddie, but the Biblical god all that is good? The deeds attributed to god are highly unpleasant to say the least, and indicate the entity is very deranged. Although poor Satan is always slagged off, no actual misdeeds have been attributed to him.

Yeah, a satan always is one's suffering for the self. No wonder why they claim to do deeds which turned out to be highly unpleasant...
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Satan has always been a good guy..... has always followed God's instructions to the letter.
The story of Job is a perfect example.

I would need to check, but was it not Paul who ranted on about evil, Satan, the Devil and hellfire?
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I just don't understand why Satan is supposed to be a baddie, but the Biblical god all that is good? The deeds attributed to god are highly unpleasant to say the least, and indicate the entity is very deranged. Although poor Satan is always slagged off, no actual misdeeds have been attributed to him.
Satan's rebellion and lies brought death and suffering into the world. The Bible unmasks him as being behind the great evils experienced since Eden. (1 John 3:8-12) As Jesus Christ said of Satan; "That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie." (John 8:44) I feel certain that this wicked spirit finds satisfaction in having humans blame the true God for the evil Satan causes.
 

Maponos

Welcome to the Opera
In comparative mythology, Satan/Lucifer has a lot in common with Prometheus, who illegally gave 'fire' to humanity, rebelling against the gods. Obviously, the gods did not like this, so therefore, demonized.
 

ronandcarol

Member
Premium Member
Why is Satan the bad guy?
His self-pride got him in trouble. He exalted himself beyond what he was meant to be.

ronandcarol
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
I just don't understand why Satan is supposed to be a baddie, but the Biblical god all that is good? The deeds attributed to god are highly unpleasant to say the least, and indicate the entity is very deranged. Although poor Satan is always slagged off, no actual misdeeds have been attributed to him.

Well, the real issue is that the only thing the Christian god's adherents can point to is texts that are supposed to be inspired by their god. Essentially, they are taking his word for it. I mean, how do you soundly verify anything a god might say??? To say that you can delve into an omniscient beings mind and understand his ultimate goals is absolute lunacy. His goals could be incredibly malevolent and you could not possibly know.
 
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VioletVortex

Well-Known Member
If the Christian mythology were true, I would most definitely side with Satan. I guess I'm still technically a Philosophical Satanist alongside being a Heathen, as I am very opposed to Christianity, and I embody an individualistic philosophy. I don't like the term "Satanist", as Satanism is too stuck in Christianity.

The Christian god is described by both testaments as being very powerhungry and tyrannical, and an all around manipulative character.
 

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator

Luciferi Baphomet

Lucifer, is my Liberator
Why is Satan the bad guy?
His self-pride got him in trouble. He exalted himself beyond what he was meant to be.

ronandcarol
It is not about the pride. Satan wanted others to know who god really was. god got pissed a him so he turned him into a disembodied spirit along with the others who chose to follow him and to become from free from gods slavery. God was jealous.
What about god wanting pride? Have you thought of that?
 
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vaguelyhumanoid

Active Member
Why is Satan the bad guy?
His self-pride got him in trouble. He exalted himself beyond what he was meant to be.

ronandcarol

Pride has inherent value as the antidote to self-hatred and fear. Obedience has no inherent value, and in fact has caused or facilitated a lot of the great evils throughout history. If the whole "fallen angel" story represents a conflict of pride vs obedience, I am 100% going with the former.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
I just don't understand why Satan is supposed to be a baddie, but the Biblical god all that is good? The deeds attributed to god are highly unpleasant to say the least, and indicate the entity is very deranged. Although poor Satan is always slagged off, no actual misdeeds have been attributed to him.

You can't sell weight loss products without first selling fatty foods...
 

Aštra’el

Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth
What is good about the Biblical god? The Bible's accounts of its actions are those of a psycho!
I do not consider the question, "What is good about the biblical God?". I do not like using the word "good" just as I do not like using the word "evil". Instead, I ask myself, "What is badàss about the biblical God?". And the answer is... everything.

 

djhwoodwerks

Well-Known Member
He killed way more people than God according to the Bible.
Didn't God kill something like 2,000,000 whereas Satan killed just Job's children after God had given him permission to do so.

Yes, Satan has had a bad press.

Using this same logic, tell us why Charles Manson went to prison. Who killed more people, him or the government?
 
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