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why is trump in the UK? is it to insult people.?

SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
shmogie said:
Well, since you really aren't interested in hearing another view, I won';t bother with going further.
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What makes you say that?

shmogie said:
Your so called fact check is promoted by a left wing pro immigration, open borders group. It's statistics, mostly without a source, are simply egregiously in error.
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With DOJ statistics though. ;)

shmogie said:
However, it really doesn't matter, since your canuck opinion of anything regarding the US is valueless, irrelevent, pitifully ineffectual, you are just ****'in into the wind.
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Ah, the inevitable "Who cares what foreigners think?" mantra.

I don't want to care about what your president does. But the problem is that I have no choice. Given that as I pointed out, his policies and behaviors have effects all over the world, and that includes the country that is right next door to yours, where I happen to live. Trump is doing great damage to the long-standing friendly relationship that Canada and the US have always shared. I care about Americans not only because you are my neighbours, but because you are human beings. I'm sorry for you that you can't share the sentiment.

shmogie said:
It would be the same if I if cared anything about Canada and it's leader and voiced an opinion.
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Go ahead, I wouldn't stop you.

shmogie said:
I interact with Canadians once in a while because they come to Arizona in droves in the winter, and many come to have surgeries done that they cannot have done in Canada.

One poor fellow had been on a waiting list two years for a knee replacement. He was a little chagrined to learn that from the day of my referral to an orthopedic surgeon to the day of my knee replacement surgery, was 22 days. He simply said, "it don't work like that in Canada".
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LOL I see you've made sure to top off your post with the old "Canadians flock to the US for healthcare" myths. Anecdotes are great. I have one too ... my grandmother needed hip replacement surgery and got it within 36 hours of breaking it - in Canada. But good job, you've hit all the talking points!

shmogie said:
Too bad, but I don't care.
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It's a shame you don't care about people who weren't born in your country. You know, people don't get to decide where they are born, right?
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Shad said:
The first link they try to cite is about initial case completions only. Initial case is not the final hearing nor even a review hearing. Your source is distorting information thus is lying. I explained this to you months ago yet you still follow false information willingly making you willfully ignorant due to your ideology or worse. More so their own sources refute their claim.

https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1060851/download
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Nope.

"According to DOJ statistics, between 2013 and 2017, 92 percent of asylum seekers appeared in court to receive a final decision on their claims. In FY 2018, 89.4 percent of those who applied for asylum complied with their court hearing obligations. Out of 66,592 final asylum decisions, 7,072 denials were the result of the asylum seeker failing to appear in court."
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
I have better things to do than type all that information out.

If you cannot be bothered to listen to a podcast, you cannot be bothered and I would have wasted an awful lot of time typing.
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Um, okay, but you are here. And you're typing. You can't type a few more words to explain what you meant?
 
SkepticThinker

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
metis said:
The problem is that you've done "the homework" but, by and large, most Trump supporters clearly haven't.

For example, they brag about the economy under Trump, and yet Mickey Mouse could have done much the same if he ramped-up the deficit an additional $1 trillion in one year alone as Trump & Co has. It seems that the party that wanted to pass a balance-the-budget amendment several decades ago is now DOA.

And this isn't the only area whereas their not doing the studying has its consequences, and that also includes basic theology, btw.
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Right? Unfortunately, I've noticed the same.
 
shmogie

shmogie

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SkepticThinker said:
What makes you say that?


With DOJ statistics though. ;)


Ah, the inevitable "Who cares what foreigners think?" mantra.

I don't want to care about what your president does. But the problem is that I have no choice. Given that as I pointed out, his policies and behaviors have effects all over the world, and that includes the country that is right next door to yours, where I happen to live. Trump is doing great damage to the long-standing friendly relationship that Canada and the US have always shared. I care about Americans not only because you are my neighbours, but because you are human beings. I'm sorry for you that you can't share the sentiment.


Go ahead, I wouldn't stop you.



LOL I see you've made sure to top off your post with the old "Canadians flock to the US for healthcare" myths. Anecdotes are great. I have one too ... my grandmother needed hip replacement surgery and got it within 36 hours of breaking it - in Canada. But good job, you've hit all the talking points!


It's a shame you don't care about people who weren't born in your country. You know, people don't get to decide where they are born, right?
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I don care about whiners wherever they are. My intent was to address your issues one by one in a cordial respectful manner. Your response was hysteria and disrespectful,
therefore take your faux ¨care¨ and FO, I´m and done with you.
 
shunyadragon

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Stevicus said:
Maybe, although it's rather difficult to tell "who started it." Not that it really matters that much, although it always takes two to tango.
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tRump stepped into the ring in his red white and blue tights even before he began running for election. There is no question who was first, tRump, no one has come close to tRump's abusive insults and lies.
 
Shad

Shad

Veteran Member
SkepticThinker said:
Nope.

"According to DOJ statistics, between 2013 and 2017, 92 percent of asylum seekers appeared in court to receive a final decision on their claims.
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Wrong as per footnote you didn't read as you didn't read anything you linked.

"Initial case completions only. "

https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1104861/download

In FY 2018, 89.4 percent of those who applied for asylum complied with their court hearing obligations. Out of 66,592 final asylum decisions, 7,072 denials were the result of the asylum seeker failing to appear in court."
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Fake math due do you not being able to read what you link due to your ideology.

"Orders issued in absentiain removal, deportation, and exclusion cases.Does NOT include cases in which an alien indicated a fear of return but did not actually file an asylum application"

https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1107716/download


OH look 10k more deportation in abesentia than your own source claims. All via the second link "DoJ"


https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1116666/download

Hilarious how gullible you are. You do not even check your own source when the links are provided by said source. Try again. Maybe read what you link so you do not get fooled by lying sources.
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Shad said:
Wrong as per footnote you didn't read as you didn't read anything you linked.

"Initial case completions only. "

https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1104861/download



Fake math due do you not being able to read what you link due to your ideology.

"Orders issued in absentiain removal, deportation, and exclusion cases.Does NOT include cases in which an alien indicated a fear of return but did not actually file an asylum application"

https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1107716/download


OH look 10k more deportation in abesentia than your own source claims. All via the second link "DoJ"


https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/1116666/download

Hilarious how gullible you are. You do not even check your own source when the links are provided by said source. Try again. Maybe read what you link so you do not get fooled by lying sources.
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Manipulation of statistics is the method of choice used by the open borders set to give their absolute lies the air of respectability.

Their adherents love it but then, they are so indoctrinated they will believe anything they are told by these groups.
 
Shad

Shad

Veteran Member
shmogie said:
Manipulation of statistics is the method of choice used by the open borders set to give their absolute lies the air of respectability.

Their adherents love it but then, they are so indoctrinated they will believe anything they are told by these groups.
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Problem here is the very source provides a link to refute it's own claim. They count on their readers being too stupid to look.
 
Altfish

Altfish

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Notanumber said:
You are beginning to sound like a fascist.

Everyone can have a point of view provided it complies with yours.
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It is not your point of view; it is your constant referencing the same far right websites and commentators. Broaden your horizon.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
It is not your point of view; it is your constant referencing the same far right websites and commentators. Broaden your horizon.
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You can reference whatever you like and you will not find me complaining or trying to silence you.

The fascists are the ones that want to de-platform those that they disagree with.
 
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