Religion is confusing because every single one of them is man made, and they all have an agenda.
It's just a statement I may say. And I don’t agree with your statement. Not every religion is a man made. Maybe " the content "book"" was "sent" by a man. But its impossible that an illiterate man can create a detailed-perfect religion. I'm here talking about my own religion but I'm not sure about the rest.
And some religions were true religions but was changed by a man, here you can say " the new version of that religion is a man made".
And some beliefs , was started by some philosophers or created for some famous people " you can call that a man made beliefs".
I agree with you, Wat_i.need, nearly all things in the world have a beginning and an end. But 'creation of the universe' presents us with a unique problem. If universe is eternal then why it is so, and if it arose at some point of time then what did it arise from and why. And when it ends, what will it end into - a whimper or a bang? This is the Mother of All Problems, the Holy Grail. This cannot be compared to any other problem in the world. We do not have the answer to this riddle and we are not going to have the answer any time soon. All guessing is futile at this point of time. Till we solve this problem, we cannot really say that everything in the world has a beginning and an end. The problem involves finding the relationship between existence and non-existence.
Well IT IS a problem if you don't have an answer. But we already have it. I'm not here to discuses my religion and what we have inside our holy book. But we have what is " the beginning was like and what the ending will be like". If you are interested I can show you the verses anytime. I hope you are interested, because it amazed me the first time I learned about it.
Again, it's good to know but there are some things you better not to know because its more than what "a human" can bear. However, what you would know (if you ever was interested or had the chance to learn about) is not little either, it's amazing itself.
You can consider it as a problem , but believe me every problem have a solution.
I hear youre venting and fustration. We have a lot of seekers and a lot of people trying to place a foundation for various beliefs floating in the wind. There are many Truths and it cannot be singled to god/s. That is the truth of those who believe in god/s not truth for everyone.
Many of us are not confused. Human beings hold a clogomarate of beliefs and morals and we either follow them or try to fit or dismiss them if our said belief system says otherwise.
I know you arent telling us what to believe but more of asking "why the confusion?". Its the religions (however defined) that do not see truth as a rainbow of different experiences and conclusions of many people. Its a tug of war because of imposing belief systems. It harms the individuals heart to where they have morals but they are supressed.
If we, all people, get over our confusion and the majority accept that not Everyone believes in god, we move a step forward. Until then, we will be confused. Not because humanity doesnt know themselves but the fight between each other to accept others for who they are not what they want them to be.
If we free ourselves "of what we had created to believe in, using whatever methods", maybe we can see the real thing. Faith and beliefs we find it in our soul and in our heart. If you see that not accepting the existence of God is the best solution for you , then I wonder, do you feel peaceful inside or empty? No imposing though, I'm curious about your feeling, how do you really feel. I want to know how other people from different religions feels inside.
I don't want to convince most of the people here to join my team...quite the opposite lol
People have some beliefs they are happy about, that’s why they want to share it with other people, it sometime maybe considered imposing. However, not every single person have good intentions.
Yes, that was just a heads up.
Don't worry about the confusion. I registered here just to have fun, fool around, make friends and improve my English. The normal social stuff. I ended up discussing religion and beliefs, and becoming a moderator. Who would have guess a silly guy like me would do that? For some reason members here seem to intentionally want to create confusion. Gotta love them.
My point, exactly.
I like your spirit .You are a cheerful person and that is a good thing.
Ahh. I see.
It seems to me that you've had a much different experience on this forum than I. If the questions you ask is "which one is right?", then you will get a million different answers with varying degrees of truth and value. They definitely would be full of contradictions. I can imagine that would be frustrating, if you just want the "right one." =/
I guess my approach has been different, as it's been based more on open curiosity and introspection than anything else. This has been very enlightening for me, and has helped me learn more about myself, and to be more intellectually honest with my beliefs and values. Introspection is a great thing, and one shouldn't be afraid of their true thoughts and feelings about things. It's easy to slip into denial and discontent when you ignore them; at least, this has been my own personal experience.
If you don't mind me asking, How would you define your walk as a Muslim? When I was a Christian, there were answers to the questions I had and disciplines that kept me on the straight and narrow (mostly), but there were things that just did not sit well with me... Are there things about Islam that don't sit well with you, or are you 100% happy with it? =)
The great thing about Islam, everything is direct , you worship the one only God, if you seek help you ask God directly, if you made a mistake you ask for forgiveness directly, if you wish for something you ask God directly, whether it was later or sooner , you will see it with your own eyes and you will feel it happening BUT , you just need one thing to have all those things happening, just "faith" in the one who created you , and the rest comes by itself and you will learn it one by one later.
And there is also, the holy Quran, you wouldn’t know until you read it, understand it and believe in it content, when you read it you feel what someone call "the feeling of peaceful and reliefs " literally.
There are a lot of great things I lost count of.
I, at a one period of time, I was doubting my religion, I was born Muslim, and both my parents are Muslims, however when I reached twenty I just started to doubt everything, is my religion is the right one, am I going in the right direction, is there really a one God? and am I worshiping the right God, it just happened at some point of your life, I was feeling empty and I was sad at the time, I was searching, reading, and reading, but then when I reached my limit, because I was still confused, all I did asked whoever is there " if there is really a god in this universe , please guide me" . Then I just started to feel peaceful and started to learn lots of things about my religion and the other ones and so . Still till this day I feel that I'm saved, from darkness to light. You can't wait people or listen to what other people implies, you can reach your own hand and you will find the answer. At least that is what I did.
But some people ruined the image of Islam. The people with brain would know that not every person in this world is the same everyone is different and unique in their own way. If there are bad people, there are good people too.
Now can i ask you the same thing? Now you are free do you think you reached your where you want?
God knows what is going on my friend!... Right now there may be a period of transition as we all attempt to learn some good things from each other but I trust we are beginning to realize we are all on this blue planet and our job is to accept one another and work to build the foundations of a future that will truly be blessed for our children!
A good optimistic thinking. It's good to accept each other, but you know my friend, this life is not working like that, there are some good people approaching you, but also, some bad, selfish ones too. Even if you want the good things for them, they want every bad things for you. Let's be just a little careful.
Our job to search for happiness but we need some truth to based on our foundations for ourselves and for our children, don't you think?
I wonder if you only looking forward for the nearest future or the far one? Kids, money, job all those things are things we desire and keep close, but when we die we die alone. At least if we know the truth we will be relived.
Yes, lots of thoughts and lots of beliefs, but only one stands out--that God is Truth, whatever that Truth be. It's correct by definition.
God is truth and you need body, eyes, foresight, soul, brain, heart and faith, to know for sure that there is a God.
