Literally NOT the Kingdom described in prophecy where the Messiah literally restores the Kingdom of Israel, and bring peace to the world.What do you mean with that?
It did not happen.
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Literally NOT the Kingdom described in prophecy where the Messiah literally restores the Kingdom of Israel, and bring peace to the world.What do you mean with that?
Jesus established the kingdom of God on earth, and he left his peace to his disciples. I think they still have that peace, and nothing of this world can destroy it.Literally NOT the Kingdom described in prophecy where the Messiah literally restores the Kingdom of Israel, and bring peace to the world.
1. because he was a failed prophet. Either that or people put words in his mouth.Two simple questions;
1. Why Jesus did not Rule the first time, but will Rule the second time?
2. What is the purpose of Jesus's Ruling?
1.Can you please back up both of your answers with Scriptures?
I believe there is no evidence to support those concepts.1. because he was a failed prophet. Either that or people put words in his mouth.
2. Jesus ruling is not a real thing, but a projection by early believers.
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Matt 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Makes sense2.
2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance.
This prophecy is after the Message of Jesus and the two witnesses are Muhammad and Ali. The Message Muhammad brought lasted 1260 years as per that prophecy.
The year AH1260 is the year AD1844. 1844 was the year that the Gate opened for the Glory of the Lord with the declaration of the Bab (Name in english means Gate) (Elijah always comes first) who came to prepare the way for the "One God would make Manifest", Baha'u'llah (Name in english means "The Glory of the Lord", or the "Glory of God".)
Ezekiel 43:1-9
Ezekiel 43:4 "The glory of the LORD entered the temple through the gate facing east"
Revelation Chapter 11 explained here.
Revelation Chapter 12 explained here.
Regards Tony
There are so many problems with the Baha'i interpretation about the "1260" days. I believe it is six times they use it. When it says, "42 months", 3 1/2 days, times, time and half a time are all converted to be 1260 lunar years to match the Islamic calendar. And 1260 in the Islamic calendar happens to be the year 1844. Remarkable.Were Muhammad and Ali killed in Jerusalem after preaching 42 months? I thought Ali was killed by a poisoned sword, and this supposed Muhammad poisoned by a disgruntled woman. According to Rev 11:11, both messengers were to return together, not as a single "Baha". You can hope, but you cannot hide.
If it says that he will rule from Jerusalem, that is another thing that doesn't fit with the claims of the Baha'i Faith. Mt. Carmel and their headquarters in Haifa have to be the place. But that's only a minor detail for them to get around.The prophets only name one final king/prince, and that is David (Ezekiel 34:23 & Ez 37:24 & Hosea 3:5), who will rule as "king" from Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:16). The judging will be by the LORD/YHWH Ezekiel 34, and then the LORD will make David the only shepherd/prince.
What can I say, but to say you would not offer that about Abdul-Baha, if you had met Abdul-Baha. I could offer more of my thoughts, but that is most likely erroneous, so let's try a metephor with your posted meanings of sackcloth, which Abdul-Baha also would have known about.Revelation 11:3 And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
From your link to Abdul Baha's' interpretation of Revelation 11...
It is said they were “clothed in sackcloth”, meaning that they appeared to wear not a new raiment but an old one. In other words, they would initially appear to be of no consequence in the eyes of other peoples and their Cause would not seem new. For the spiritual principles of the religion of Muḥammad correspond to those of Christ in the Gospel, and His material commandments correspond for the most part to those of the Torah. This is the symbolism of the old raiment.
Here's a Christian commentary on "Sackcloth"...Sackcloth and ashes were used in Old Testament times as a symbol of debasement, mourning, and/or repentance. Someone wanting to show his repentant heart would often wear sackcloth, sit in ashes, and put ashes on top of his head. Sackcloth was a coarse material usually made of black goat’s hair, making it quite uncomfortable to wear. The ashes signified desolation and ruin.When someone died, the act of putting on sackcloth showed heartfelt sorrow for the loss of that person. We see an example of this when David mourned the death of Abner, the commander of Saul’s army (2 Samuel 3:31). Jacob also demonstrated his grief by wearing sackcloth when he thought his son Joseph had been killed (Genesis 37:34). These instances of mourning for the dead mention sackcloth but not ashes.It seems like Abdul Baha' doesn't know why people in the Bible wore sackcloth. But very creative interpretation.
Jerusalem means "Abode of Peace", the Bible also offers a new Jerusalem along with the new name.If it says that he will rule from Jerusalem, that is another thing that doesn't fit with the claims of the Baha'i Faith. Mt. Carmel and their headquarters in Haifa have to be the place. But that's only a minor detail for them to get around.
The bible does not support Muhammad "in many ways" but says to look out for coming false prophets (Mt 24:11). But the Koran does state that Isa Ibn Mariam, Yeshua, is a prophet of Allah.There is more than one interpretation CG, there is many meanings and as Muhammad is a true Prophet, the Bible will support Him in many ways.
I don't know. It seems "his disciples" are at peace for the are all dead, excepting John, who I saw at the beach the other day. He looked healthy, but a little aged.Jesus established the kingdom of God on earth, and he left his peace to his disciples. I think they still have that peace, and nothing of this world can destroy it.
There is more than one interpretation CG, there is many meanings
There are interpretations given by Jews, Christians, Muslims and Baha'is. Each can be seen as being coming from their perspective.Jerusalem means "Abode of Peace", the Bible also offers a new Jerusalem along with the new name.
How many "The Messiahs" were the Jews expecting? The Christian interpretation is that it was one Messiah that comes twice. Do Christians believe that the "Christ" or "Messiah" was going to come more than once after Jesus?The bible does not support Muhammad "in many ways" but says to look out for coming false prophets (Mt 24:11). But the Koran does state that Isa Ibn Mariam, Yeshua, is a prophet of Allah.
I don't know. It seems "his disciples" are at peace for the are all dead, excepting John, who I saw at the beach the other day. He looked healthy, but a little aged.
"Christians" are disciples of the false prophet Paul, and his false gospel of grace/lawlessness/wickedness (Mt 13:24-49), and at the "end of the age", be gathered and thrown into the fire (Mt 13:30). They would be generally classed among the "walking dead", with their ensuing plagues (Rev 18:4).
By what is said in the Bible, a Christian means a disciple of Jesus. I don't think they all are dead.
…The disciples were first called Christians in Antioch.
Acts 11:26
But, it could be that the "Christians" are not truly disciples of Jesus, because a person is truly a disciple of Jesus, if he remains in word of Jesus.
Jesus therefore said to those Jews who had believed him, “If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
John 8:31-32
Okay, name some of the "many" ways.There is more than one interpretation CG, there is many meanings and as Muhammad is a true Prophet, the Bible will support Him in many ways.
Ezekiel 13 verse 9 states that no false Prophets can enter the land of Israel.The bible does not support Muhammad "in many ways" but says to look out for coming false prophets (Mt 24:11). But the Koran does state that Isa Ibn Mariam, Yeshua, is a prophet of Allah.
One will do, no false prophet can enter Israel.Okay, name some of the "many" ways.