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Why liberalism can and has been a disease.

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
San Francisco is one of those unique cities where just about every policy of liberalism has been put into practical real world use without any conservative policy in play.

This is the real world result. The video is about 6 months old.


Conservatism isn't perfect either, maybe I'll make a thread on that , but for now, from what I see here, liberalism is clearly far far worse. I will never ever support leftist and liberal policies that can bring about something like this.

Keep going left, and more left, and you just might eventually have a nation that looks like San Francisco with a mayor that has no real sense of humanity in their own backyard. Their minds are too much on character assassination and politicking between themselves. I don't want what is going on in San Francisco to ever happen to our entire country.

San Francisco is a pretty frightening precursor enough as it is. It's a shame , because it really at one time was a gorgeous and beautiful city. Now look at what it's turned into.

Maybe it's a time for a new party to emerge where a proper balance of liberalism and conservatism rules the day. Not the extreme.


I haven't read the thread yet. If you haven't already done so, please define what you mean by "liberalism" and "conservatism". Your definitions might show, e.g., that everyone agrees with you or that no such things as "liberalism" and/or "conservatism" exist in the real world.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
I am no expert on the habitation of Canada,

It has been my understanding that no area
other than high mountains was entirely
unutilized at any season.

Nope. The Canada Shield in Northern Quebec and Ontario made habitation limited and sparse compared to say the Great Lakes. Likewise in Sask habitation is around major bodies of water and river systems which are more numerous in the western part of the province.


Those type of systems are near the two major rivers in the province which are far west of the farm. Also keep in mind habitation include density. An area could have a large population but this could be confined to a tiny portion of said area. Anchorage for example compared to inland.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I haven't read the thread yet. If you haven't already done so, please define what you mean by "liberalism" and "conservatism". Your definitions might show, e.g., that everyone agrees with you or that no such things as "liberalism" and/or "conservatism" exist in the real world.
I'll catch you up:
Because California is strongly controlled by Democrats to OP wants to hyperfocus on San Fransisco and pretend their situation applies to the whole of California so he can criticize Democrat/Liberal policy while neglecting to include the fact California is a very big state and the rest of it doesn't look like San Fransisco does. We've also concluded the reason is definitely not because of jobs, because there are an abundance of jobs, and even though minimum wage is going up (something the OP wanted to blame) there are still many companies expanding business in the state.
He's so hellbent on criticizing things here that he even accused me of pulling numbers out of the air when I brought up that cities throughout the Central Valley have had explosive population over the past couple decades, all because it doesn't fit into his narrative of being able to look at one aspect of California and applying it to the entire state (in this case it couldn't be happening because it's supposed to be believed that people are leaving the entire state in droves and no where can be gaining population).
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Nope. The Canada Shield in Northern Quebec and Ontario made habitation limited and sparse compared to say the Great Lakes. Likewise in Sask habitation is around major bodies of water and river systems which are more numerous in the western part of the province.



Those type of systems are near the two major rivers in the province which are far west of the farm. Also keep in mind habitation include density. An area could have a large population but this could be confined to a tiny portion of said area. Anchorage for example compared to inland.

Interesting! Thank you for taking time to explain!
 

Nous

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I'll catch you up:
Because California is strongly controlled by Democrats to OP wants to hyperfocus on San Fransisco and pretend their situation applies to the whole of California so he can criticize Democrat/Liberal policy while neglecting to include the fact California is a very big state and the rest of it doesn't look like San Fransisco does. We've also concluded the reason is definitely not because of jobs, because there are an abundance of jobs, and even though minimum wage is going up (something the OP wanted to blame) there are still many companies expanding business in the state.
He's so hellbent on criticizing things here that he even accused me of pulling numbers out of the air when I brought up that cities throughout the Central Valley have had explosive population over the past couple decades, all because it doesn't fit into his narrative of being able to look at one aspect of California and applying it to the entire state (in this case it couldn't be happening because it's supposed to be believed that people are leaving the entire state in droves and no where can be gaining population).

Yeah, isn't it an old vaudeville act? It seems I've heard the song and dance before.
 
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