Why Quran was revealed After Bible?

[Perseveranze]

What do you think the Prophet Muhammad(صلى الله عليه وآله وسل&#1605 was before he became a Prophet? He certainly wasn't a Christian or a Pagan.

He was someone who simply believed in God, as the Prophet Abraham(عليه الصلاة والسلا&#1605 did. Anyone in that time, that believed in God, and didn't attribute partners to God etc. would've been completely fine.

That is what this verse is referring to;

Surah Baqara 2:62:

"Those who believe, and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve."

note: The "Jewish Scripture" is referring to the Torah of Moses(عليه الصلاة والسلا&#1605 and the Injeel of Jesus(عليه الصلاة والسلام)

 

[Rexor]

"Why had there been eons of polytheism all over the planet?"

Polytheism developed from monotheism. God revealed Himself to humans and their misconceptions and attempts to understand and express in physical terms what is spiritual resulted in polytheism. Not the other way round.
Please do not base your assumptions on what are in fact only recent written expressions of religious ideas.

eg. our use of the term Him for God relates more to us than to Him but we have to use some words to express what we think.

What was the name of the god who revealed Himself to the first ignorant peoples?

 

[Rexor]

What do you think the Prophet Muhammad(صلى الله عليه وآله وسل&#1605 was before he became a Prophet? He certainly wasn't a Christian or a Pagan.

He was someone who simply believed in God, as the Prophet Abraham(عليه الصلاة والسلا&#1605 did. Anyone in that time, that believed in God, and didn't attribute partners to God etc. would've been completely fine.

Yes Muhammad (PBUH) was a good man and never self righteous. I liked the story that it was quite common of the local pagans that used to bury their baby girls in the sand alive because they didn't want to pay for dowery in the future. So Muhammad respecting the authority of the fathers said that on the day of Judgement the girl will go before God and God will ask "how did you come to be here" and she will say "I was buried alive in the sand as a baby" and God asks "well for what horrible crime were you buried alive" "I was born a girl" she would say. This is only from memory and not accurate but it was fairly effective to make these fathers think about what they were doing.
And Muhammad always said that he was only a messenger. Some thought he was a mad poet others divinely inspired. But without doubt brilliant at diplomacy.

 

[FearGod]

The answer that I ususally heard from the Molems, is that, mainly because Bible is corrupted.

A Christian or someone else may ask:

if indeed that is the case and after Jesus left, His Book was also corrupted, then what did those people have to be guided with from the time of Jesus to Muhammad? How could God, who is caring and loving, left them for 600 years without proper guidance? Why God didn't send them a prophet earlier to tell them the Truth and give them the Book for their guidance? Why waiting for 600 years and then sending Muhammad?


What answer Islam have for these questions?

Dear InvestigateTruth,

Then why a new book will be revealed if the previous one wasn't corrupted.

So in your logic,we don't need the bahai books since all previous books are valid and not corrupted.

As A muslim,
We believe on all the holy books even if corrupted,they are holy for muslims too.
We believe god as only one
We believe on his all true messengers and all are equal for us
We believe that there will be afterlife and we will be judged according to our deeds.

Now lets us be serious and talk reality.Please reply my questions.

1 - Is Jesus pbuh = god
2 - Is Jesus pbuh the son of god
3 - Will all sinners be saved by their faith on Jesus.
4 - What Bahai teach except explaining and interpreting the previous books.

 

[TashaN]

Dear Foad and Bismillah,
Thank you for this information.

Now, may I ask you regarding the following verses:



"And We sent, following in their footsteps, Jesus, the son of Mary, confirming that which came before him in the Torah; and We gave him the Gospel, in which was guidance and light and confirming that which preceded it of the Torah as guidance and instruction for the righteous." 5:46

"And let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed - then it is those who are the defiantly disobedient." 5:47​

Is the above verse, addressing the Christians living at the time of Muhammad? If that is the case, and if you say, the Gospel that existed at the time of Muhammad was corrupted, then how could Christians judge correctly by that corrupted Book?​

Also in this verse:​

"And if only they upheld [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have consumed [provision] from above them and from beneath their feet. Among them are a moderate community, but many of them - evil is that which they do." 5:66​

In the above verse My question is that, if, the Torah and the Gospel were not the Torah and Gospel that God had sent to them, why would God ask them to upheld those Books?​

I agree that, perhaps all the knowledge that Jesus was given to Him by God, is not in the Gospel that Christians have. But Could it be that, Gospel is the Name of the Book that Christians was going to have through the Will of God, and God had revealed to Jesus the essencial teachings of the same Book?​

Another verse says: ​

And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, "Believe in Me and in My messenger Jesus." They said, "We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allah ]." 5:111​

The above verse suggests God had inspired the disciples of Christ. The Christians believe the Gospels are written by the Disciples. If that is the case, from this can we not conclude that the Gospels are indeed inspired by God? The Disciples had vissions and dreams as the Gospels suggest. Is it part of Islamic belief that God inspires also through dreams and vissions?​

What is your belief regarding this?​

Torah and Injil are part of the bible, but bible as a whole is not equal to Torah and Injil. As my brothers said before me, the bible contain more things than what God said in Torah and Injil. It include for example what the disciples said, did, saw, etc.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Then why a new book will be revealed if the previous one wasn't corrupted.

Dear FearGod,

Ok, so you are asking me the question I asked.
Very well,

The answer is in Quran my Dear Friend.
Let's see what Quran teaches us, instead of listening to what people say. Agree?

1. Quran declairs that it is a reminder:

"This revelation which We recite to you is full of signs and wise reminders" 3:58

"...this message is nothing but a reminder to all the worlds." 6:91


2. Why they needed a reminder?

Quran answers because, they distorted the meaning of the Books and forgot what God had asked them to follow:

"Then, for having broken their solemn pledge, We rejected them and caused their hearts to harden-[so that now] they distort the meaning of the [re-vealed] words, taking them out of their context; and they have forgotten much of what they had been told to bear in mind; and from all but a few of them thou wilt always experience treachery. But pardon them, and forbear: verily, God loves the doers of good." 5:13-14

3. Are there other reasons, Quran was revealed?

Yes. Quran teaches, each Age requires its own Book. God in each Age, confirms or abrogates some of the Laws of His previous Book.:

"To each age its Book. What He pleaseth will God abrogate or confirm: for with Him is the Source of Revelation." Quran 13:38-39

So in your logic,we don't need the bahai books since all previous books are valid and not corrupted.

No, in my logic, which i learn from Quran, I realize each Age, God sends a new Book with New laws. We are living in a New Age. Thus we need New laws and teachings. we also need the same reminder from God, for the same reason Quran was a reminder (see above please)

As A muslim,
We believe on all the holy books even if corrupted,they are holy for muslims too.
We believe god as only one
We believe on his all true messengers and all are equal for us
We believe that there will be afterlife and we will be judged according to our deeds.

Well, I personally believe there are many good Moslems.
But I also believe there has been many religions leaders now and previous generations who caused Islam to be divided into many sects, and caused a lot of problems between Moslems as well as with others.
And God in Quran had warned that is a big Sin.

Now lets us be serious and talk reality.Please reply my questions.

1 - Is Jesus pbuh = god
2 - Is Jesus pbuh the son of god
3 - Will all sinners be saved by their faith on Jesus.

Whatever Bible says is the Truth. Are not Bible and Quran teach the same thing with regards to your Qestions?

4 - What Bahai teach except explaining and interpreting the previous books.

I will reply to this a little later. I have to go somewhere now.

Peace

 

[sojourner]

Then why a new book will be revealed if the previous one wasn't corrupted.

This isn't "version 2.1" -- it's theology. The NT doesn't "fix" a "corrupt" OT. It complements the OT, according to Xtians. Both are perfectly fine, in their own right. Since the NT is comprised of documents that are particularly cogent for Xtians, including stories of Jesus, instructions to churches, and other letters to individuals, I don't see how the Quran could be a "better" version, when it is of particular cogency to Muslims and not Xtians.

 

[seeking4truth]

"Wow. You should sell this fantasy to Hollywood. You'd be famous."

It's not fantasy. The belief that a man can die and the come alive again is the fantasy.
Revival is normal and seen frequently in hopsitals and morgues; resurrection is not.

Examination of early christian history and the development of religious thought in Europe and the East after Jesus will show that he had a much greater effect on religous thought than mere 'Christianity'.

If you just get the notion out of your head that Jesus died and realise that he revived - with the help of Pilate and the disciples - all the rest of the story is perfectly logical.

 

[Animevox]

The answer that I ususally heard from the Molems, is that, mainly because Bible is corrupted.

A Christian or someone else may ask:

if indeed that is the case and after Jesus left, His Book was also corrupted, then what did those people have to be guided with from the time of Jesus to Muhammad? How could God, who is caring and loving, left them for 600 years without proper guidance? Why God didn't send them a prophet earlier to tell them the Truth and give them the Book for their guidance? Why waiting for 600 years and then sending Muhammad?


What answer Islam have for these questions?

The Qur'an is just the untouched version of all previous abrahamic beliefs. As for God leaving all the other people without guidance for 600 years. It says in the Qur'an that God sent 124,000 prophets, so you can't really say that they didn't have guidance.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

The Qur'an is just the untouched version of all previous abrahamic beliefs. As for God leaving all the other people without guidance for 600 years. It says in the Qur'an that God sent 124,000 prophets, so you can't really say that they didn't have guidance.

Thank you Animevox.

Can you please Quote from Quran God sent 124000 prophets.
And if that is the case, how many prophets were sent between Jesus and Muhammad?

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Torah and Injil are part of the bible,

This is correct as a definition of Christian Bible. They call one part New testament, and the Jewish Scripture as Old testament.

but bible as a whole is not equal to Torah and Injil.
As my brothers said before me, the bible contain more things than what God said in Torah and Injil. It include for example what the disciples said, did, saw, etc.

Well, the thing is that, the Word Bible is the English Name for Christian or Jewish Scriptures.

So, let's be specific.
It seem to me, you are assuming, the Books of Christians was not supposed to include "what the disciples said, did, saw, etc".
Does not Quran include some examples of what the Disciples said? or the conversations between prophets and people, etc?

 

[Humza]

Ok, thanks for your reply, Although I am more interested in the following questions:

A Christian or someone else may ask:

if indeed that is the case and after Jesus left, His Book (Text of Injil) was also corrupted, then what did those people have to be guided with from the time of Jesus to Muhammad? How could God, who is caring and loving, left them for 600 years without proper guidance? Why God didn't send them a prophet earlier to tell them the Truth and give them the Book for their guidance? Why waiting for 600 years and then sending Muhammad?


What answer Islam have for these questions?

Even though the Injil was corrupted there was still a small amount of Jews who believed in the true teachings of Jesus(pbuh). They still retained their copies of the true Injil. However throughout the years the groups of people who had strayed from the right path grew while the true Christians lessened.
When Constatine came into power he ordered that those copies of the bible that went against his preferences (trinity and so on) were to be burned and the followers killed. Yet there was still a minority of true Christians that lived on.
When prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was then sent down the Quran these small groups of Christians recognised his teachings and accepted Islam.

So in reply to your question, there was still true guidance on the Earth for those who seeked it. But when corruption on the land rose God sent down the final prophet and revelation.

Hope this clears your quearies.

 

[sojourner]

Even though the Injil was corrupted there was still a small amount of Jews who believed in the true teachings of Jesus(pbuh). They still retained their copies of the true Injil. However throughout the years the groups of people who had strayed from the right path grew while the true Christians lessened.
When Constatine came into power he ordered that those copies of the bible that went against his preferences (trinity and so on) were to be burned and the followers killed. Yet there was still a minority of true Christians that lived on.
When prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was then sent down the Quran these small groups of Christians recognised his teachings and accepted Islam.

So in reply to your question, there was still true guidance on the Earth for those who seeked it. But when corruption on the land rose God sent down the final prophet and revelation.

Hope this clears your quearies.

There is no proof that these assertions are factual.

 

[FearGod]

Dear InvestigateTruth,

As A muslim,
We believe on all the holy books even if corrupted,they are holy for muslims too.
We believe god as only one
We believe on his all true messengers and all are equal for us
We believe that there will be afterlife and we will be judged according to our deeds.

Now lets us be serious and talk reality.Please reply this question.


What Bahai teach else than explaining and interpreting the previous books.

Please reply my question

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Even though the Injil was corrupted there was still a small amount of Jews who believed in the true teachings of Jesus(pbuh). They still retained their copies of the true Injil. However throughout the years the groups of people who had strayed from the right path grew while the true Christians lessened.
When Constatine came into power he ordered that those copies of the bible that went against his preferences (trinity and so on) were to be burned and the followers killed. Yet there was still a minority of true Christians that lived on.
When prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was then sent down the Quran these small groups of Christians recognised his teachings and accepted Islam.
So in reply to your question, there was still true guidance on the Earth for those who seeked it. But when corruption on the land rose God sent down the final prophet and revelation.
Hope this clears your quearies.

Well, Firstly Welcome to the Forum Humza,
I also think there is no historical evidence for your explaination.
What I found out from History, was that, Muhammad and the early Moslems did not believe that the True copies of Injil and Torah were corrupted.

I have shown this in my post #37 and #38 in this thread:

I just copy them for you:

The word that quran uses in the verses, which Moslems often refer to as indication of changes to Books, is "Tahrif".
According to Moslem Scholar Amin Ahsan, there are 4 types of tahrif:

Amin Ahsan Islahi writes about four types of tahrif:[6]

1. To deliberately interpret something in a manner that is totally opposite to the intention of the author. To distort the pronunciation of a word to such an extent that the word changes completely.
2. To add to or delete a sentence or discourse in a manner that completely distorts the original meaning. For example, according to Islam, the Jews altered the incident of the migration of the Prophet Abraham in a manner that no one could prove that Abraham had any relationship with the Kaaba.
3. To translate a word that has two meanings in the meaning that is totally against the context. For example the Hebrew word that is equivalent to the Arabic ‘ابن’ was translated as ‘son’ whereas it also meant ‘servant’ and ‘slave’.
4. To raise questions about something that is absolutely clear in order to create uncertainty about it, or to change it completely.

Tahrif - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, from the above, 3 out of 4 types of tahrif, means misinterpretation, and twisting the meaning, and not changing the actual Text.

In fact, there are evidence that, Prophet Muhammad and early Moslems, did not believe that the actual Text of the Injils or Torah was corrupted. They believed that the meaning of them were twisted and misinterpreted.

Upto 315 years after Muhammad, the recorded Historical evidence show that, the intention of Quran was to say that the Jews and Christians had misinterpreted the Text of their Book. For example:

Al-Bukhari reported that Ibn ‘Abbas (Cousin of Muhammad) said [the Jews] alter and add although none among Allah’s creation can remove the words from His book, they alter and distort their apparent meaning” – with this Hadith it is clear that those who walked with the Prophet (PBUH) believed the text of the Torah was original, while holding the view that the Jews perverted their interpretation.


In the year 796 Abu l-Rabi Muhammad ibn al-Layth (a courtier to Kalif Harun al-Rashid ) penned a letter to Constatine VI stating that the word “tahrif” should be read as the Jews had distorted their sense. “Whoever looks in the books of the prophets will find Muhammad (PBUH) mentioned, but the people of the book have obscured these references by changing their interpretation”. Ibn al-Layth categorically denies the possibility of passages having been added to, or omitted from, the scriptures, and he then goes on to use the text of the Torah as proof of the authenticity of the Torah (a belief both he and the kalif share).

300 year after Muhammad still, Abu Bakr Muhammad ibn al-Tayyib al-Baqillani was of the opinion that the words of Moses were still extant in their Hebrew original and that the Jews had inadvertently made mistakes in their translations.


It is only in later years, that some of Moslems started to say the actual text of the injil or Torah were corrupted.
Source:
http://www.judaism-islam.com/islam-teaches-torah-is-corrupted-tahrif-but-what-does-that-mean/

Thus as regards to the verses in Quran which Moslems often refer to as corruption of Bible, it seems to me, those verses of Quran are mistranslated.

For example the verse 5:41, here is the translation by Muhammad Asad correctly:


"O APOSTLE! Be not grieved by those who vie with one another in denying the truth: such as those who say with their mouths, "We believe," the while their hearts do not believe; and such of the Jewish faith as eagerly listen to any falsehood, eagerly listen to other people without having come to thee [for enlightenment]. They distort the meaning of the [revealed] words, taking them out of their context, saying [to themselves], "If such-and-such [teaching] is vouchsafed unto you, accept it; but if it is not vouchsafed unto you, be on your guard!" [Be not grieved by them-] for if God wills anyone to be tempted to evil, thou canst in no wise prevail with God in his behalf. It is they whose hearts God is not willing to cleanse. Theirs shall be ignominy in this world, and awesome suffering in the life to come-" 5:41

http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/5/41/default.htm


Whenever we do a Tafseer, we need to know the History, and reason why those verses are revealed. We need to know the story behind the revelation of each verse.
The Verses that Quran revealed regarding "Tahrif" It has to do with writing certain Books and Interpretations regarding Injil or Torah, at the time of Muhammad. You would know that if you do your research as to what was the reason those verses were revealed historically.

Yes, There are verses in Quran that talk about "Modification" and alteration by the Religious Leaders. however, those refer to misinterpretations of ONLY particular cases.

One of them is concerning the penalty of adultery, when the prophet was to explain the penalty of Adultry to some Jewish leaders.
Which the Quran reveals "They distort the meaning of the [revealed] words, taking them out of their context" See Quran 4:44-46

It is clear, in that instance, by perverting the Text is meant "Misinterpretation" and "twisting" as the Torah still contains the verse that says punishment for adultery is death by stone.
Another example is: "A part of them heard the Word of God, and then, after they had understood it, distorted it, and knew that they did so." Quran 2:75
This verse, also indicates that the meaning of the Word of God hath been perverted, not that the actual words in the Text of Bible are changed.

Another example,: "Woe unto those who, with their own hands, transcribe the Book corruptly, and then say: ‘This is from God,’ that they may sell it for some mean price." Quran 2:79

This verse was revealed regarding the Jewish leaders who were living at the time of Muhammad. For they had written false interpretations to refute the claims of Muhammad.

As regrads to 5:13 and 5:14, I believe this is the correct translations, by Asad:

"Then, for having broken their solemn pledge, We rejected them and caused their hearts to harden-[so that now] they distort the meaning of the [re-vealed] words, taking them out of their context; and they have forgotten much of what they had been told to bear in mind; and from all but a few of them thou wilt always experience treachery. But pardon them, and forbear: verily, God loves the doers of good."
http://www.islamawakened.com/quran/5/13/default.htm

Thus again, Quran is saying they distorted the meaning of the Text. It does not say, the actual text was distorted. Forgetting the teachings, also does not indicate, it was ommited from the Text of Injil, it can only mean from their mind. They did not care to follow them anymore.

So in my view there is no verse in Quran, that says: "Injil or Torah are corrupted." As a matter of fact there are many verses in Quran that confirms Injil and Torah, which were among them at time of Muhammad are from God, which I have refered to some in post #37.

- Peace

 

[Humza]

There is no proof that these assertions are factual.

Which do you disagree with?

 

[Humza]

Thanks for your reply,

I understand were you are coming from. However if we look into the New Testament we'll find that most of the teachings are from Paul. The problem here is that these preachings aren't coming from Jesus himself. Also Paul never himself met Jesus during his mortal life.

-Salam

 

[InvestigateTruth]

4 - What Bahai teach except explaining and interpreting the previous books.

Dear FearGod,

I will try to make a brief reply to your question, although I feel that for this Question a separate thread should be open. Because that topic is a long topic to discuss on its own.

"In the Suriy-i-Haykal (Surih of the Temple) revealed in 'Akká,
Bahá'u'lláh states that in this Dispensation the verses of God have
been revealed in nine different styles or categories. A well-known
Bahá'í scholar, Jinab-i-Fadil-i-Mazindarani, after careful study of
the Writings, has enumerated these styles as follows:


1. Tablets with the tone of command and authority.
2. Those with the tone of servitude, meekness and supplication.
3. Writings dealing with interpretation of the old Scriptures,
religious beliefs and doctrines of the past.
4. Writings in which laws and ordinances have been enjoined
for this age and laws of the past abrogated.
5. Mystical Writings.
6. Tablets concerning matters of government and world
order, and those addressed to the kings.
7. Tablets dealing with subjects of learning and knowledge,
divine philosophy, mysteries of creation, medicine, alchemy,
etc.
8. Tablets exhorting men to education, goodly character and
divine virtues.
9. Tablets dealing with social teachings.
(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Baha'u'llah v 1, p. 42)
Re: Nine modes of revelation



So, Baha'u'llah revealed 17000 works of scriptures. Only one category is related to interpretations of previous Books.
These scriptures collected together are like 70 times volumes of Quran.
The above list shows 9 categories.

For example category 4 which is "Writings in which laws and ordinances have been enjoined", this by itself is a Book with new Laws. This Book is called Book of Aqdas.
You may wish to download a free copy of it and learn about it, if you like to know the details of it.
Kitáb-i-Aqdas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Or for example Category 5, which is "5. Mystical Writings". Baha'u'llah revealed many Miystical Writings. One of His famous Mystical Books is, "the Seven Valleys".
The book follows the path of the soul on a spiritual journey passing through different stages, from this world to other realms which are closer to God.
The Seven Valleys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or Category 7 which is "7. Tablets dealing with subjects of learning and knowledge,
divine philosophy, mysteries of creation, medicine, alchemy,
etc."

There is Book, called Gleanings of the Writings of Baha'u'llah. It is a collection of some of His writings in which you can find on the subject of "divine philosophy, mysteries of creation, etc...)


I hope this is helpfull. If you have farther questions regarding this, please kindly make a new thread.

 

[FearGod]

Dear FearGod,

I will try to make a brief reply to your question, although I feel that for this Question a separate thread should be open. Because that topic is a long topic to discuss on its own.

"In the Suriy-i-Haykal (Surih of the Temple) revealed in 'Akká,
Bahá'u'lláh states that in this Dispensation the verses of God have
been revealed in nine different styles or categories. A well-known
Bahá'í scholar, Jinab-i-Fadil-i-Mazindarani, after careful study of
the Writings, has enumerated these styles as follows:


1. Tablets with the tone of command and authority.
2. Those with the tone of servitude, meekness and supplication.
3. Writings dealing with interpretation of the old Scriptures,
religious beliefs and doctrines of the past.
4. Writings in which laws and ordinances have been enjoined
for this age and laws of the past abrogated.
5. Mystical Writings.
6. Tablets concerning matters of government and world
order, and those addressed to the kings.
7. Tablets dealing with subjects of learning and knowledge,
divine philosophy, mysteries of creation, medicine, alchemy,
etc.
8. Tablets exhorting men to education, goodly character and
divine virtues.
9. Tablets dealing with social teachings.
(Adib Taherzadeh, The Revelation of Baha'u'llah v 1, p. 42)
Re: Nine modes of revelation



So, Baha'u'llah revealed 17000 works of scriptures. Only one category is related to interpretations of previous Books.
These scriptures collected together are like 70 times volumes of Quran.
The above list shows 9 categories.

For example category 4 which is "Writings in which laws and ordinances have been enjoined", this by itself is a Book with new Laws. This Book is called Book of Aqdas.
You may wish to download a free copy of it and learn about it, if you like to know the details of it.
Kitáb-i-Aqdas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Or for example Category 5, which is "5. Mystical Writings". Baha'u'llah revealed many Miystical Writings. One of His famous Mystical Books is, "the Seven Valleys".
The book follows the path of the soul on a spiritual journey passing through different stages, from this world to other realms which are closer to God.
The Seven Valleys - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Or Category 7 which is "7. Tablets dealing with subjects of learning and knowledge,
divine philosophy, mysteries of creation, medicine, alchemy,
etc."

There is Book, called Gleanings of the Writings of Baha'u'llah. It is a collection of some of His writings in which you can find on the subject of "divine philosophy, mysteries of creation, etc...)


I hope this is helpfull. If you have farther questions regarding this, please kindly make a new thread.

Thank you InvestigateTruth.

But you didn't show me any new rules,principles or laws in Bahai which isn't found in Islam.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

Thank you InvestigateTruth.

But you didn't show me any new rules,principles or laws in Bahai which isn't found in Islam.

If you open a new thread I will. I promise
But I suggest you also do some research on your own. I am not a Moslem, but I have researched Islamic theology.