Why say Magic instead of Placebo?

[1137]

The isolate intelligence is, itself, unnatural, and therefore the use of it is magic. This can range from something utterly mundane like a diet to something complex such as successfully counseling a drug addict in rehab, or even overcoming the addiction themselves. The reason it seems magicians can achieve this better is they collect knowledge unbiasedly and openly, creating more and more avenues through which magic can work.

 

[1137]

Sorry I don't need practice playing in people imaginations

Well at least we know your trick is thousands of posts without a single contribution. If you're refusing to defend your point with evidence perhaps I should just utilize the ignore list.

 

[outhouse]

The isolate intelligence is, itself, unnatural

That is a laughable claim you cannot possibly expect to substantiate

 

[outhouse]

The reason it seems magicians can achieve this better is they collect knowledge unbiasedly and openly, creating more and more avenues through which magic can work.

Unsubstantiated Rhetoric

This can range from something utterly mundane like a diet to something complex such as successfully counseling a drug addict in rehab, or even overcoming the addiction themselves. .

has nothing to do with magic

 

[1137]

That is a laughable claim you cannot possibly expect to substantiate

Care to support a single ****ing thing you say?

 

[crossfire]

A placebo gives an unstudied person a place to point their intention (healing a specific condition.) Picking your own place of intentional change is a whole different story--it requires careful introspection and observation in order to intelligently identify the areas that need change, and how to go about it.

Evidence for such a claim?

Seriously? People who don't examine their own minds are in the same position as people who do? So much for the value of self-awareness!

One might as well ask, "what is the difference between actually reading and understanding a statement and giving an intelligent reply, or simply saying 'prove it' without even reading the statement?"

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Well when I see something credible they have brought to the table we can then begin to address it.

So far there is a reason why they call it supernatural explanations.


Magic is a trick, nothing more. It shows how much collective knowledge about the WEAKNESS of the human mind there actually is.

Not one of these LHP or anyone else can fool Penn and Teller because it doesn't exist.


No one can collect Randi's million dollar challenge because it doesn't exist.


Sorry calling homemade spirituality magic is nothing more then pseudo spirituality IMHO

I never said I disagree with this statements, however just saying someone is wrong without giving a reason is not conductive for learning.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

isolate intelligence

Can you please explain what you mean by this term?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Seriously? People who don't examine their own minds are in the same position as people who do? So much for the value of self-awareness!

One might as well ask, "what is the difference between actually reading and understanding a statement and giving an intelligent reply, or simply saying 'prove it' without even reading the question?"

If do not see the purpose of calling the evaluation of your own mind magic.

It is already called introspection and was not called magic historically.

 

[crossfire]

I never said I disagree with this statements, however just saying someone is wrong without giving a reason is not conductive for learning.

indeed....

 

[crossfire]

If do not see the purpose of calling the evaluation of your own mind magic.

It is already called introspection and was not called magic historically.

Did I say it was magic?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

Did I say it was magic?

Ok please define the changes you can do by introspection.

 

[1137]

Can you please explain what you mean by this term?

i·so·late
verb
ˈīsəˌlāt/

1. 1.
   cause (a person or place) to be or remain alone or apart from others.
   "a country that is isolated from the rest of the world"
   synonyms: separate, set/keep apart, segregate,detach, cut off, shut away, keep in solitude, quarantine, cloister,seclude, sequesterMore
   

noun
īsələt/

1. 1.
   a person or thing that has been or become isolated.
   "social isolates often become careless of their own welfare"

in·tel·li·gence
inˈteləjəns/
noun

1. 1.
   the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
   "an eminent man of great intelligence"
   synonyms: intellectual capacity, mental capacity, intellect, mind, brain(s), IQ,brainpower, judgment, reasoning,understanding, comprehension;More

So, the knowledge/skills/mind/reasoning g which is separate/alone/apart from the rest of the intellect.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

i·so·late
verb
ˈīsəˌlāt/

1. 1.
   cause (a person or place) to be or remain alone or apart from others.
   "a country that is isolated from the rest of the world"
   synonyms: separate, set/keep apart, segregate,detach, cut off, shut away, keep in solitude, quarantine, cloister,seclude, sequesterMore

noun
īsələt/

1. 1.
   a person or thing that has been or become isolated.
   "social isolates often become careless of their own welfare"

in·tel·li·gence
inˈteləjəns/
noun

1. 1.
   the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.
   "an eminent man of great intelligence"
   synonyms: intellectual capacity, mental capacity, intellect, mind, brain(s), IQ,brainpower, judgment, reasoning,understanding, comprehension;More

So, the knowledge/skills/mind/reasoning g which is separate/alone/apart from the rest of the intellect.

If it is isolated from the rest of the intelligence, how would you access it?

 

[1137]

If it is isolated from the rest of the intelligence, how would you access it?

You don't see how a country separated from the rest of the nations could interact with other nations?

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

You don't see how a country separated from the rest of the nations could interact with other nations?

No country is actually isolated however.

 

[1137]

No country is actually isolated however.

You're suggesting that the separation can be bridged? Looks like you're starting to grasp magic after all.

 

[Taylor Seraphim]

You're suggesting that the separation can be bridged? Looks like you're starting to grasp magic after all.

No I am saying that anything that can be bridged was not isolated to begin with.

 

[outhouse]

Care to support a single ****ing thing you say?

You cant just come in here and make stuff up and not expect to get called on it, and you will be asked to support your claims.

I am not making wild claims so I don't need to support anything.


By the way I can support everything I say. My position follows credible academia, science and history. Not my own version of each.

 

[outhouse]

So, the knowledge/skills/mind/reasoning g which is separate/alone/apart from the rest of the intellect.

You have not in ANY WAY demonstrated, knowledge/skills/mind/reasoning is separate from intellect.

Start supplying credible source to substantiate YOUR claims