why some of arabs hate USA?

[kai]

there were three nations that were involved. it is not too much to ask IMO to suggest to read their archives. those would be Turkish, Russian and Armenian. if this history should be discussed, they must open their archives. at least, someone give logical explanation why they refuse to share original documents.






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who is refusing Lava? Armenia?

 

[kai]

To be picky, there are plenty of non-Muslim Holocaust deniers.

lets move them too!

 

[.lava]

who is refusing Lava? Armenia?

yes. i don't know about Russian.





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[Smoke]

there is no genocide in history of Ottoman. Armenian people forced to leave because they began to fight against domestic army. they went and settled down in another country where known as Karabag today.

I don't think it's like you to tell such damnable lies, so I assume you're just tragically misinformed. I don't recall whether you live in Turkey or not; if so, you probably don't have access to accurate information, since the Turkish government censors information about the genocides.

The Armenian genocide was just the one with the greatest number of victims. The Turks launched similar genocidal campaigns against the Assyrians and the Greeks.

The Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks didn't massacre themselves. They didn't send themselves on forced death marches without food or water. They didn't starve themselves in Turkish labor camps. The Turks launched a concerted and sustained campaign of genocide against the Christians of Asia Minor.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Coincidentally I just happened to watch a documentary on the Armenian genocide. Apparently about a year ago an important Turkish peace writer was murdered for writing about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n_OywOzPcQ

 

[MSizer]

While I don't deny the claims of the OP, I would like to point out that I still don't think it's justified to "hate" an etire nation for any reason. No nation contains an entire lot of people who have the same beliefs, the same political views and so on. Hate is wrong. I realize it's a natural human emotion, but it can (and usually should be) overriden by reason. Any person who hates an entire nation, no matter which nation it is, is being irresponsible IMO.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

What is the Arab media like? Is it relatively objective or does it always put the US in a negative light? If American media only showed the gruesome images of dead Americans all the time, killed by Arabs or Muslims, without giving any context, it would contribute to anti-Arab racism / hatred among Americans. I watch Al Jazeera English sometimes and I find that it is very informative and objective, but what about the Arab version? Can anyone here who speaks Arabic compare the Arab vs. English Al Jazeera?

 

[Gharib]

Tell me esalam what do you think of the Albanian Skanderberg? and his dealings with Sultan Mehmed II who i suppose was in the Balkans peacefully spreading the word.?

skanderbe or Gjergj Kastrioti was a chirstian or maybe catholic soldier taken by the turks as a child and then was made into a general or something like that with a high rank, on his way to Hungary with his army he changed course to albania and there he was made king and raised his own army to fight of the ottoman empire. there have been many wars between the albanians and the turks of the ottoman empire, those wars were from the non muslim albanians.

 

[Gharib]

So why don't we relocate Palestinians? they cause much trouble, lets move them, and there will be peace.

You are either a BIG liar or a little slow on your head. Only you Muslims can claim Armenian genocide and Holocaust never happened. You are absolutely fine with history when it involves Muslims, but once history goes against them you get on your heals. Just for that I would remove all your posts from this thread.

gee nice post. in your case the ottomans would have the israelis relocate for stealing the land of the arabs. theivs are not liked in islam.

 

[Gharib]

To be picky, there are plenty of non-Muslim Holocaust deniers.

in your face arimoff

 

[Kerr]

in your face arimoff

?????

 

[YmirGF]

gee nice post. in your case the ottomans would have the israelis relocate for stealing the land of the arabs. theivs are not liked in islam.

How, exactly, can you steal something that was once your own?

How can Jews seriously be accused of "stealing" lands that belonged to them for thousands of years?

 

[Gharib]

How, exactly, can you steal something that was once your own?

How can Jews seriously be accused of "stealing" lands that belonged to them for thousands of years?

they are stealing the land of the palestinians, who have been there for thousands of years.

 

[Gharib]

?????

oh i forgot, thanks for posting that statement before.

 

[Kerr]

gee nice post. in your case the ottomans would have the israelis relocate for stealing the land of the arabs. theivs are not liked in islam.

Actually it was not Israel that did the stealing, the land was already under occupation and was then divided. If you want to blame anyone for stealing, blame the ones who occupied it... the Brittish.

Not saying I like what happened, though.

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Ok, to be fair, it was the UN that decided to divide the land the way they did. While I can understand peoples sentiment that Israel stole the land, it was already stolen and divided before it was handed over.

 

[Vile Atheist]

Between the time of the Israelite kingdoms and the 7th-century Muslim conquests, the Land of Israel fell under Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Greek, Roman, Sassanian, and Byzantine rule.[30] Jewish presence in the region dwindled after the failure of the Bar Kokhba revolt against the Roman Empire in 132 CE.[citation needed] In 628/9, the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius conducted a massacre and expulsion of the Jews, at which point the Jewish population probably reached its lowest point. Nevertheless, a continuous Jewish presence in the Land of Israel remained. Although the main Jewish population shifted from the Judea region to the Galilee,[31] the Mishnah and part of the Talmud, among Judaism's most important religious texts, were composed in Israel during this period.[32] The Land of Israel was captured from the Byzantine Empire around 636 CE during the initial Muslim conquests. Control of the region transferred between the Umayyads,[33] Abbasids,[34] and Crusaders over the next six centuries, before falling in the hands of the Mamluk Sultanate, in 1260. In 1516, the Land of Israel became a part of the Ottoman Empire, which ruled the region until the 20th century.[35]

Eselam, what were you saying about thieves not being liked in Islam? Clearly the Ottomans took Israel from the Jews. And other Arabs before them too. Check your revisionist history.

 

[kai]

skanderbe or Gjergj Kastrioti was a chirstian or maybe catholic soldier taken by the turks as a child and then was made into a general or something like that with a high rank, on his way to Hungary with his army he changed course to albania and there he was made king and raised his own army to fight of the ottoman empire. there have been many wars between the albanians and the turks of the ottoman empire, those wars were from the non muslim albanians.

He wasnt taken he was a hostage and there wouldnt be any Albanian muslims if it wasnt for the Ottomans. so he is only an Albanian hero to non Muslims?

 

[kai]

Actually it was not Israel that did the stealing, the land was already under occupation and was then divided. If you want to blame anyone for stealing, blame the ones who occupied it... the Brittish. What were the Ottomans doing there ---stealing thats what!

Not saying I like what happened, though.

EDIT:

Ok, to be fair, it was the UN that decided to divide the land the way they did. While I can understand peoples sentiment that Israel stole the land, it was already stolen and divided before it was handed over.

Indeed the Muslims stole it from the christians and they stole it from the jews, who stole it first huh!

 

[Gharib]

He wasnt taken he was a hostage and there wouldnt be any Albanian muslims if it wasnt for the Ottomans. so he is only an Albanian hero to non Muslims?

he was taken when he was a child to turkey and was trained to be a soldier a general or something. the albanian muslims existed prior to the ottoman invasion. islam was brought to albania (the balkans) by arab merchants. there may have not been many muslims at the time but there were a few. he is a hero to all albanians. the late ottoman leaders were corruped leaders, they changed course from the complete islamic way to personal gains. they did/wanted to do many things in albania that are not allowed according to islam eg. erasing the albanian alphabet and establish only the turkish or arabic. but they never forced anyone to convert.

 

[kai]

he was taken when he was a child to turkey and was trained to be a soldier a general or something. the albanian muslims existed prior to the ottoman invasion. islam was brought to albania (the balkans) by arab merchants. there may have not been many muslims at the time but there were a few. he is a hero to all albanians. the late ottoman leaders were corruped leaders, they changed course from the complete islamic way to personal gains. they did/wanted to do many things in albania that are not allowed according to islam eg. erasing the albanian alphabet and establish only the turkish or arabic. but they never forced anyone to convert.

esalam Murhad 11 and Mehmet 11 invaded the Balkans and skanderberg was an apostate so how can an apostate be a hero to Muslim Albanians?


and i know this has nothing to do with why some Arabs hate the US but i like the topic.