I wouldn't call that Hinduism but rather a (challenging to others) self-designed religious view.
And perhaps you tie that in with the concepts of other religions; more a Universalist view.
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Why Won't You Let me Be Hindu?
- Thread starter wizanda
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And perhaps you tie that in with the concepts of other religions; more a Universalist view.
Everyone is gifted in different ways, and just because an elephant pushes down trees; a spider across infinity, makes a web to catch out flies.
Not only mine, loads of sites are popping up listing the same contradictions... Plus here is a list of award winning theologians, who've all recognized Paul.
What do we need weapons for, words are sufficient; you do realize reality is made from code, and if you know how you can change Karma, weather, etc...
Plus I've come down here to debate over religious doctrine:
Kalki Purana 3:26 By the influence of this horse and parrot, the people of the world will know You as a learned scholar of all scriptures who is a master of the art of releasing arrows, and thus the conqueror of all.
Revelation 2:16 Repent therefore, or else I am coming to you quickly, and I will make war against them with the sword of my mouth.
In my opinion.
Fair enough didn't use Hindu terminology; yet we could exchange the words for Sanskrit ones, and they are the concepts contained in the Hindu texts?
If not, could you explain where, please?
In my opinion.
Rastafarians get somethings right, that Hinduism was already doing millennia before.
In my opinion.
Everyone here always has the option to post the exact same topics outside of DIRs. If you did that, maybe Hindus would join you there.
Satyamavejayanti
Well-Known Member
"wizanda",
Namaste,
Well this is my opinion, so please don't take this as "The Hindu", view.
1) You quote and sometimes even try to validate Christian Biblical ideas e.g: Revelation ect, You do this too often.
2) You compare Brahman to CPU/Matrix ect, what were you comparing Brahman to before words and ideas like CPU/Matrix was used in the English vocabulary?
3) You said in this thread that you see Jesus as a Avatar of Shiva, this itself undermines the Shiva Sutra/Purana and Shivism.
But that's not important, if you really wannna be a Hindu, then go right ahead, take a "Ghar Wapasi,", ceremony, or devote yourself to a Devi/Devta as a Bhakta, or go to a temple, or have a temple at your home, or take refuge with a Guru, or join the ISKON movement, or Arya Samaj, or Art of Living, or support Hindu leaders like Rajiv Malhotra or become a Aghori, or a Tantri, or a Yogi, or just be your self, and stop trying to fit in.
or just take the full plunge into Hindu Dharmah, by first proudly and loudly proclaiming that you are Hindu and Nothing else.
Just stop with this "I am a Avatar", stuff, no Avatar ever claimed to be a Avatar by knowing a little scripture or posting stuff online and not going out in the world and make some serious contribution to the welfare of humanity.
Anyways, don't let this stop you.
Namaste,
Well this is my opinion, so please don't take this as "The Hindu", view.
1) You quote and sometimes even try to validate Christian Biblical ideas e.g: Revelation ect, You do this too often.
2) You compare Brahman to CPU/Matrix ect, what were you comparing Brahman to before words and ideas like CPU/Matrix was used in the English vocabulary?
3) You said in this thread that you see Jesus as a Avatar of Shiva, this itself undermines the Shiva Sutra/Purana and Shivism.
But that's not important, if you really wannna be a Hindu, then go right ahead, take a "Ghar Wapasi,", ceremony, or devote yourself to a Devi/Devta as a Bhakta, or go to a temple, or have a temple at your home, or take refuge with a Guru, or join the ISKON movement, or Arya Samaj, or Art of Living, or support Hindu leaders like Rajiv Malhotra or become a Aghori, or a Tantri, or a Yogi, or just be your self, and stop trying to fit in.
or just take the full plunge into Hindu Dharmah, by first proudly and loudly proclaiming that you are Hindu and Nothing else.
Just stop with this "I am a Avatar", stuff, no Avatar ever claimed to be a Avatar by knowing a little scripture or posting stuff online and not going out in the world and make some serious contribution to the welfare of humanity.
Anyways, don't let this stop you.
Messiah, Mahdi, Avatar, Jesus, God ... A pretty long list of claimants ... List of avatar claimants - Wikipedia Many many more who never made it to the public in any way,
Just sayin...
Satyamavejayanti
Well-Known Member
Namaste Satyamavejayanti-Ji,
Plus on then reading what Krishna speaks, it sounds so similar, like he knew these levels of perception.
We also find the Buddha comparing it to a Universal Mind, which is similar to saying a Central Processing Unit.
People have tried to quantify it in many ways, the Tao is similar, describing a source of everything, with an immense logic that is formless, and without a name.
Yet since in this Generation we have something that matches the architecture of reality, to associate it with that seems more logical.
In my opinion.
Accepting the Bible as Lila shouldn't make someone not a Hindu... Two years before getting around to reading the Bible, fulfilled Revelation 10.
It is only having seen Brahman in my NDE, that would ever dream to say something like it.
Plus on then reading what Krishna speaks, it sounds so similar, like he knew these levels of perception.
We also find the Buddha comparing it to a Universal Mind, which is similar to saying a Central Processing Unit.
People have tried to quantify it in many ways, the Tao is similar, describing a source of everything, with an immense logic that is formless, and without a name.
Yet since in this Generation we have something that matches the architecture of reality, to associate it with that seems more logical.
For what reasons?
Trying to maintain a constant state of connection to the CPU; through remembering all the different forms of Yoga ... Like living in a sense of Oneness with Brahman.
In my opinion.
Please demonstrate.
Can you share this horrific data? Since neither of us can substantiate avatar status, I can probably handle it as well as you (you can PM it to me if you think it's too dangerous to share on a public forum).
Fascinating. Please provide an example. While I might not be able to fully break it down, I'm confident some of our resident mathematicians and QM aficionados might be able to corroborate (or refute).
Can you share the chapter and verse in which Krishna speaks of this?
Perhaps you missed this because I edited after I posted, but I consider this to be the most important question in both the post you responded to and in this one...
Edited to break what I consider to be the most important question in this post out of quotes in hopes that @wizanda responds...
Dharma is a key principle in Hinduism. How does this concept fit into your "understanding?"
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Satyamavejayanti
Well-Known Member
"wizanda,"
Namaste,
Why not?
I
So you have seen Brahman, what did he/she/it look like? How do you know that it is Brahman? Was it Nirguna or Saguna?
Jesus as avatar as far as am aware is not part of Shiva Darshan. Maybe Shivites can confirm.
So you don't actually practice any "yoga", but just remember the forms that you have read about, heck i do that to, Maybe you are a Hindu after all, all those Yoga teachers, they too must be Hindu even the Christian yoga groups, actually if we are all part of the CPU, maybe everyone is a Hindu, and if we are all just Hindu, you don't need to "Be Hindu", because you already are....and so am I.
Dhanyavad
Namaste,
Why not?
I
So you have seen Brahman, what did he/she/it look like? How do you know that it is Brahman? Was it Nirguna or Saguna?
For what reasons?
Jesus as avatar as far as am aware is not part of Shiva Darshan. Maybe Shivites can confirm.
So you don't actually practice any "yoga", but just remember the forms that you have read about, heck i do that to, Maybe you are a Hindu after all, all those Yoga teachers, they too must be Hindu even the Christian yoga groups, actually if we are all part of the CPU, maybe everyone is a Hindu, and if we are all just Hindu, you don't need to "Be Hindu", because you already are....and so am I.
Dhanyavad
Dharma stems from the Source of reality, and is known as the Way; we're to try to live as righteously as possible to keep to it.
This is all the Adharmic behavior that has ever happened, so rapes, murders, massacres, adultery, wars; if you imagine everything that has happened throughout infinity processed in a single place that is similar.
We've got Newton, Tesla, and Einstein to look at first, who will be well in advanced of anyone on here... or the quote by Dr Michio Kaku "the mind of 'God' is like cosmic music resonating throughout 11 dimensional hyperspace."
I can't demonstrate how things within my reality came to fruition simply by thinking about them, and not going to start asking for things for ego.
B.G 8.9 The one who meditates on Brahman as the omniscient, The oldest, the controller, smaller than the smallest, The sustainer of everything, the inconceivable, The self luminous like the sun, And as transcendental or beyond the material reality;
B.G 8:17-18 Those who know that the day of Brahmaa Lasts one thousand Yugas and that his night also lasts one thousand Yugas, they are the knowers of day and night. All manifestations come out of the unmanifest state or Prakriti at the arrival of Brahmaa's day, and they again merge into the same Prakriti at the coming of Brahmaa's night.
There is a few descriptions from the Gita, and there are loads more as find many of the description pertaining to Brahman, being a CPU beyond the dimensions, in a place of formlessness, that manifests reality.
In my opinion.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Why
Are you striving to be anything. Why not just be what you are?Find it really unfair that repeatedly I'm not accepted as being Hindu; when the majority of my beliefs have more Hindu connotations than any other religion.
I'm continually making posts that try to enlightened other religious understandings, to concepts that are currently only properly found in Hinduism, and yet I'm rejected for being Hindu on here.
So please explain where you do not feel I'm a Hindu?
In my Hindu opinion.
The third eye Yantra from Shiva is the Star of David; therefore it could be a possibility the whole Hebraic religion is a manifestation from Shiva, to remove those demons who seek salvation, yet don't recognize the ultimate Source of reality.
Heaven is a place of pure consciousness, thus what we expect to perceive can become manifest; so to begin saw the most beautiful ethereal king on a throne one could possibly imagine, yet this was only a perception, thus asked to see the true reality, which was more like a CPU processing the whole of reality.
Because on studying Hindu texts the descriptions fit... Plus this was the manifestor of reality, there is not two; like there is not multiple religions.
As saying saw both; Brahman as expected, and Brahman beyond all perception.
This is reverse mentality; if Shiva appeared as Yeshua before the destruction of Israel, and is the prophesied Avatar to fight Raktabija with Kali...Then a group of religious people doesn't change history.
As asking, where is there a reason this isn't so?
Don't say Namaste, if you do not mean it please.
Get up each morning, and start with Bhakti (Devotion) on waking, move onto Jnana (Higher Conscious Discernment) as soon as waking up, then Raja (Mindfulness) throughout my day...
Every time we breath try to remember Pranayama (Code is Energy from the Divine), as sitting in meditation remember Kundalini (Maintain Chakra Balance from root upward), on maintaining practices this is all Tantra (Weaving together).
Then in every action am always watchful of all Karma (actions, works, and deeds), regularly sit and cleanse the inner with Kirya (Karma repentance).
The only aspect of Yoga i don't do regularly is Hatha Yoga (stretching), as see that as superficial to maintaining the spiritual aspects of Connection to the divine.
In my opinion.
Not striving to be anything; it is more not being accepted by the world... Have come from Heaven, thus not accepted by most religious traditions down here.
Thus studied everyone's religions to explain things in a way people might understand; yet still rejected as my knowledge is first hand, and people want it to fit into their religious tradition, not reality.
Thus got no reason left to live as only came down here to help people, and since people are happy without divine beings bothering them they're going the wrong way; feel like retiring and switching the Maya/Matrix off as prophesied.
In my opinion.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Well, thanks for visiting us mere mortals.Not striving to be anything; it is more not being accepted by the world... Have come from Heaven, thus not accepted by most religious traditions down here.
Thus studied everyone's religions to explain things in a way people might understand; yet still rejected as my knowledge is first hand, and people want it to fit into their religious tradition, not reality.
Thus got no reason left to live as only came down here to help people, and since people are happy without divine beings bothering them they're going the wrong way; feel like retiring and switching the Maya/Matrix off as prophesied.
In my opinion.
Shaivite here ... we don't believe in avatara period. It's a Vaishnava concept crossed into Smarta somewhat. So the idea is a projection from another sect (religion) and/or wishful thinking.
This is where we diverge; as personally don't get how after getting to an ocean, we then divide that into rivers.
In my opinion.
To post in a DIR one has to fully identify with and declare that religion, path, philosophy. Thems be the rules.
- I still pray to Thor and accept the existence of the Norse pantheon, but I am not Heathen and therefore cannot post comments (questions, yes) in the Heathenry DIR.
- Taoism has many elements that are almost indistinguishable from Hinduism and which I subscribe to. They have similarities even to the extent that the gods Guan yu (a deified military general) and Murugan/Kartikeya are often enshrined in the same Taoist temple. There are many other overlaps and correspondences. But I am not Taoist and therefore cannot post comments (questions, yes) in the Taosim DIR.
Besides everyone knows Jesus is an avatar of Vishnu... duh!
Sorry, just a little levity to lighten the mood (a very little levity
).