Will Trump Supporters Finally Admit This Is A Step Too Far?

[Quetzal]

That, sadly, is true of virtually any high profile politician. There will always be the adoring fans. IF Hillary shot someone on Broadway her die hard fans would prolly tweet on how much the person deserved it.

This is fair. I suppose I was hoping for those entrenched to take the high ground (for once) and call it as it is. Instead... well...

 

[Mindmaster]

@leibowde84

No, because obviously she was told to say everything she did due to partisan politics.

Not the first time either:

San Juan Mayor Praised Convicted FALN Terrorist

What kind of nutter says these things about known terrorists? Oh yeah, one who is asked to kiss Obummer's ***.. This woman has absolutely no spine at all..

 

[BSM1]

lol. What? I do genuinely feel concerned that your reality is so entrenched in this nonsense that you would believe anything that came from his twitter page.

You do realize that the government had already enacted rescue plans as much as possible. There was no airport to speak of, no safe docking facilities, and no way to move supplies from the main land to PR via truck. Couple this with the complete destruction of the power grid and you can see anyone's hands would be tied.

 

[Stanyon]

"The most beautiful thing in the world is to be oneself"
-unknown

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

@leibowde84

No, because obviously she was told to say everything she did due to partisan politics.

Not the first time either:

San Juan Mayor Praised Convicted FALN Terrorist

What kind of nutter says these things about known terrorists? Oh yeah, one who is asked to kiss Obummer's ***.. This woman has absolutely no spine at all..

If trump were Malfoy you would be Goyle or Crabbe or an apprentice sycophant.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

You do realize that the government had already enacted rescue plans as much as possible. There was no airport to speak of, no safe docking facilities, and no way to move supplies from the main land to PR via truck. Couple this with the complete destruction of the power grid and you can see anyone's hands would be tied.

You have given the very reasons federal help was essential.and quite beyond local abilities.
The Uk had to send ships and troops to help all the way from the Uk. They were on their way before the storm hit. The US has far more heavy lift helicopters and carriers in their own waters. Why were they not on thir way too.?

 

[Mister Silver]

YWhy were they not on thir way too.?

Simple, Trump was too busy arguing with footballers and the nation was enthralled.

 

[leibowde84]

Sweet.

I also don't understand why he hasn't had his Twitter feed yanked for National Security concerns (and to give us all a break). It's like a late night infomercial crap flinging fest. Personally think his popularity would increase if he wasn't constantly rambling. I cannot imagine anyone around him telling him how great his Twit tweets are.

I think he does it to keep his diehard supporters diehard. But, it is without a doubt destructive, divisive, unnecessary, and unhelpful. Even he should be smart enough to let the San Juan Mayor's response to the DHS Secretary go. The mayor was right. Saying that it is a "good news story" is insulting to the people dying in Puerto Rico.

 

[leibowde84]

So we do not know what he is doing with the other side of his mouth.

And, what's that?

 

[Mister Silver]

I think he does it to keep his diehard supporters diehard. But, it is without a doubt destructive, divisive, unnecessary, and unhelpful. Even he should be smart enough to let the San Juan Mayor's response to the DHS Secretary go. The mayor was right. Saying that it is a "good news story" is insulting to the people dying in Puerto Rico.

The man has no impulse control.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I'm not really even sure that she was attacking Trump directly. From the article, she seemed to be more upset about FEMA's requests for paperwork before they would send any help. I can see her point. If badly needed aid to the island is being delayed due to bureaucratic fools demanding paperwork, then someone has to take charge and kick some butts.

The article said it could take years before they'll be able to recover from this devastating storm.

I agree bureaucracy and irritating red tape seems to be the real villain here.

 

[leibowde84]

No, because obviously she was told to say everything she did due to partisan politics.

What evidence are you basing this claim on? Or is this pure speculation? I know Trump made the claim, but he's made a lot of claims that have yet to be substantiated. What is your reasoning for thinking this statement was about partisan politics and not frustration with the DHS secretary? It just seems far more likely that the mayor was upset at the DHS Secretary for saying it was a "good news story" when people are still dying.

Not the first time either:

San Juan Mayor Praised Convicted FALN Terrorist

What kind of nutter says these things about known terrorists? Oh yeah, one who is asked to kiss Obummer's ***.. This woman has absolutely no spine at all..

Do you have any sources that aren't the Daily Caller that make this claim? It is a very well known right biased, sometimes dishonest, super conservative website that is considered nearly "extreme right" by media/bias fact check (Daily Caller - Media Bias/Fact Check). I'm not saying it's untrue, I just don't trust outlets on either side that are regularly so biased. Just so you know, I feel the same way about Slate and Salon Magazine.

 

[Mindmaster]

What evidence are you basing this claim on? Or is this pure speculation? I know Trump made the claim, but he's made a lot of claims that have yet to be substantiated. What is your reasoning for thinking this statement was about partisan politics and not frustration with the DHS secretary? It just seems far more likely that the mayor was upset at the DHS Secretary for saying it was a "good news story" when people are still dying.
Do you have any sources that aren't the Daily Caller that make this claim? It is a very well known right biased, sometimes dishonest, super conservative website that is considered nearly "extreme right" by media/bias fact check (Daily Caller - Media Bias/Fact Check). I'm not saying it's untrue, I just don't trust outlets on either side that are regularly so biased. Just so you know, I feel the same way about Slate and Salon Magazine.

Would you consider Tucker Carlson an extreme right winger? That was one of the founders of The Daily Caller. Your media "fact" check site has repeated complaints all over the internet about how they inappropriately classify moderate conservative sites as extreme. Also, just because someone is a right wing conservative doesn't mean they cannot do their job journalistically, so most of these assertions (per a website) do not matter. Many people write for The Daily Caller, some more right than others, but just because they are "extremely" right doesn't mean they're "extremists". It seems like people around here fail to lack the discernment to tell the difference. Genetic fallacies are never valid - that's to say that an assertion being from a certain person doesn't make them irrelevant, but in the case I mentioned the stupid Mayor had made this comment in public. It doesn't matter "what source" published it.. Watch the video... er didn't you? lol

My experience is "fact check" sites are all political shills for left wing activist/agenda groups, so what use they have is beyond me.

 

[Quetzal]

You do realize that the government had already enacted rescue plans as much as possible. There was no airport to speak of, no safe docking facilities, and no way to move supplies from the main land to PR via truck. Couple this with the complete destruction of the power grid and you can see anyone's hands would be tied.

Nonsense, a lame duck excuse at best.

 

[Enoch07]

From Trump Hits Back At San Juan's 'Nasty' Mayor

Elaine Duke, the acting secretary of homeland security, on Thursday enthusiastically praised how federal authorities had reacted to the aftermath of the storm.

“I know it’s a hard storm to recover from,” she said. “But I know it is really a good news story in terms of our ability to reach people and the limited number of deaths that have taken place in such a devastating hurricane.”

Cruz, the Mayor of San Juan, however, called that statement “irresponsible.”

“This is a people are dying story. This is a life or death story,” she said on Friday’s broadcast of CNN’s “New Day.” “This is a story of a devastation that continues to worsen because people are not getting food and water.”

Cruz also used a news conference at a distribution center on Friday to blast the response and ask Trump to step up efforts to get aid delivered to islanders in need.

“We are dying here, and I cannot fathom the thought that the greatest nation in the world cannot figure out logistics for a small island of 100 miles by 35 miles,” she said. “Mayday! We are in trouble.”

Trump's Response to the Mayor of San Juan complai:
"The Mayor of San Juan, who was very complimentary only a few days ago, has now been told by the Democrats that you must be nasty to Trump. Such poor leadership ability by the Mayor of San Juan, and others in Puerto Rico, who are not able to get their workers to help. They want everything to be done for them when it should be a community effort. 10,000 Federal workers now on Island doing a fantastic job."

I mean, even if you think the mayor's comment was out of line, wouldn't any reasonably decent human being give her a break considering what her and her constituents are going through? Beyond Trump trying to save face for his base, what good does his response really do?

You can blame Trump all you want to. But Obama had the white house for 8 years and did not make Puerto Rico an official state. So you might want to take a long look in the mirror. Puerto Rico is a member of the U.S. by all other rights. They pay taxes, issued american drivers license and passports, they are the 51st state unofficially, but the vote to make it official just never happened.

That being said we should help them. And go ahead and add that 51st star to the flag and make it official. But don't blame Trump for Obama's and the dems inadequacies!

 

[Quetzal]

You can blame Trump all you want to. But Obama had the white house for 8 years and did not make Puerto Rico an official state.

This is not the topic of the OP.

 

[Mister Silver]

But don't blame Trump for Obama's and the dems inadequacies!

Your hard-on for Trump is showing.

 

[Enoch07]

This is not the topic of the OP.

Oh but it is. Had Obama made it official, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

 

[Quetzal]

Oh but it is. Had Obama made it official, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Ah, I see. So because Obama didn't do something, that releases Trump of any responsibility for his own words and actions? Absolute, 100% BS. It was a good deflection effort but in the end, it fell pathetically short.

 

[Enoch07]

Your hard-on for Trump is showing.

Denial doesn't do anyone any good. Your blaming Trump for something Obama failed to do.

I didn't vote for Trump. Personally I think he is a bafoon. But when the left blames him for Obamas inadequacies it is ridiculous. Just like the travel ban. Obama came up with that in 2015, did not enact before leaving office. So it was one of the top issues left on the desk of the presidency for Trump when he came in.