Will Trump Supporters Finally Admit This Is A Step Too Far?

[YmirGF]

Translation: Trump is making 'Murica great again.

Yeah, so great that those on the right don't care how he's destroying the country. What's it matter so long as he's getting under the skins of the leftists, right?

Naw, we see that more as a perk, really.

 

[chickenranch]

It helped that there were roads into New Orleans, and the power grid in the entire country was mostly intact.

It sure did!
But we knew Puerto Rico was an island (well, most of us did) for the entire time we knew that Maria was going to smack it as a Cat 4 or 5. People were making plans to have resources in place (helicopters! ships!) that could re-open airports and roads and put generators in emergency places - but without approval they could not enact those plans.

Saying that airports and roads were out of commission is not a good argument. We have people that can take care of that, quickly and effectively.

 

[leibowde84]

Would you consider Tucker Carlson an extreme right winger?

Yes, absolutely. He is in the Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Chris Plant level of bias and dishonesty.

That was one of the founders of The Daily Caller. Your media "fact" check site has repeated complaints all over the internet about how they inappropriately classify moderate conservative sites as extreme. Also, just because someone is a right wing conservative doesn't mean they cannot do their job journalistically, so most of these assertions (per a website) do not matter. Many people write for The Daily Caller, some more right than others, but just because they are "extremely" right doesn't mean they're "extremists". It seems like people around here fail to lack the discernment to tell the difference. Genetic fallacies are never valid - that's to say that an assertion being from a certain person doesn't make them irrelevant, but in the case I mentioned the stupid Mayor had made this comment in public. It doesn't matter "what source" published it.. Watch the video... er didn't you? lol

My experience is "fact check" sites are all political shills for left wing activist/agenda groups, so what use they have is beyond me.

All I can say is that I don't trust extreme right or left sites. Fox News is biased to the right, while CNN is biased to the left ... both of which are OK. But, they aren't even in the same league as the Daily Caller, who has a reputation and history of biased, dishonest reporting.

 

[leibowde84]

You can blame Trump all you want to. But Obama had the white house for 8 years and did not make Puerto Rico an official state. So you might want to take a long look in the mirror. Puerto Rico is a member of the U.S. by all other rights. They pay taxes, issued american drivers license and passports, they are the 51st state unofficially, but the vote to make it official just never happened.

That being said we should help them. And go ahead and add that 51st star to the flag and make it official. But don't blame Trump for Obama's and the dems inadequacies!

Don't blame Obama and the dems for Trump and the GOPs inadequacies. Fair?
My point was that Puerto Rico has done everything within its power to become a state. It is up to Congress to make it official. Puerto Rico already had a vote on it.

 

[Enoch07]

Don't blame Obama and the dems for Trump and the GOPs inadequacies. Fair?
My point was that Puerto Rico has done everything within its power to become a state. It is up to Congress to make it official. Puerto Rico already had a vote on it.

I am not. But to be fair. Obama and the dems had the power for 8 years to do make it official, and they didn't. Fact is if the dems really cared they would have made it a state when they had the chance. The only reason they "care" now is because its an excuse to take a shot at Trump.

If I was President I would make it an official state and send aid, immediately. But then again I am not a democrat or a republican, am I?

 

[Mister Silver]

To be honest, I'm not one to pay too close to politics when a democrat is in the house as president.

I pay closer attention when the enemy is in the house, which is why I am always concerned about why every republican president is such a failure at what he does.

Back to not paying attention to politics when a democrat is in the house; there's nothing to focus on when the democrat is doing a better job than any republican ever could. After all, why is it that every republican president embarrasses the country? It's rather self-explanatory.

 

[leibowde84]

I am not. But to be fair. Obama and the dems had the power for 8 years to do make it official, and they didn't. Fact is if the dems really cared they would have made it a state when they had the chance. The only reason they "care" now is because its an excuse to take a shot at Trump.

If I was President I would make it an official state and send aid, immediately. But then again I am not a democrat or a republican, am I?

Why would statehood be any kind of prerequisite for sending aid?

 

[Enoch07]

Why would statehood be any kind of prerequisite for sending aid?

Its not. But it prevents the argument of "why should we nelp them".

Aside from that they pay taxes that alone which is enough for aid and statehood.

 

[columbus]

But to be fair. Obama and the dems had the power for 8 years to do make it official, and they didn't. Fact is if the dems really cared they would have made it a state when they had the chance. The only reason they "care" now is because its an excuse to take a shot at Trump.

Statehood and emergency aid have nothing to do with each other. I think the subject of statehood came up as a typically Trumpish deflection from the president in the here and now to something irrelevant having to do with Obama.
The statehood issue is quite a divisive subject amongst Puerto Ricans. That has nothing to do with Obama.

The current aid situation is what this is about. And Trumps incompetent leadership, again.
Tom

 

[Enoch07]

Statehood and emergency aid have nothing to do with each other. I think the subject of statehood came up as a typically Trumpish deflection from the president in the here and now to something irrelevant having to do with Obama.
The statehood issue is quite a divisive subject amongst Puerto Ricans. That has nothing to do with Obama.

The current aid situation is what this is about. And Trumps incompetent leadership, again.
Tom

Aside from that they pay taxes that alone which is enough for aid and statehood.

Its nice the way you totally disregarded what I said. To then misrepresent what I said, just to turn around and then agree with me, despite your best efforts.

The statehood being approved is not neccessary, I never said it was. Just that if it was an official state, there is no longer the question of, if we should help. We just help because its apart of the U.S. Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[metis]

But Obama had the white house for 8 years and did not make Puerto Rico an official state.

But don't blame Trump for Obama's and the dems inadequacies!

That's not how the process works as PR would first have to vote to request becoming a state, which it has done several times, and then Congress would deal with it.

 

[metis]

How some people do forget about Obama and the Katrina disaster.

Obama and the Katrina disaster?
Bush was president.

Thanks cr for the correction as you beat me to it, and this is not the first time that I've run across some who made the dame mistake as NM.

 

[leibowde84]

Its not. But it prevents the argument of "why should we nelp them".

But, that is an absurd argument on its own. They are tax paying citizens of the United States, same as any citizen from any state. So, why wouldn't the Federal Government be required to help them in the same way?