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Will you believe that Jesus will be a father in the future?

Jumi

Well-Known Member
I've always looked on the coupling as god and Mary having sex out of wedlock (well Mary was married to Joseph, so I guess that would make her an adulteress) which makes Jesus . . . . . .
Technically according to Bible they were betrothed and there was no sex involved according to it.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I apologize I did not mean to offend
I apologize to my brothers

Mohammed married a girl fifty years younger

But God forced an unmarried girl to give birth

Which is more harsh ?

Abu Bakr is the daughter of the girl who repeatedly offered marriage to Muhammad because Muhammad was a prophet and he wanted his daughter to be with the Prophet

Such as if Jesus came down and all the girls would like to marry Jesus

And God is wise and chose Mary for procreation because she were the Most purity and pure womens in the world

Even in Islam Mary is the first lady in the all world

I want to write this thing so that we understand each other and even temper the differences and that we humans associate our human aspects

we must think positively about how everyone wins and not in planting differences

I love to be all brothers and I pray for it

Thank you brother, may God bless you

take care (^_^)

If Jesus returns to Earth as promised? Sure, why not I suppose. Is marriage a bad thing in God's eyes? Is marriage a sin?
I imagine most Christian don't think it through. I don't see any reason Jesus couldn't get married . Probably had sex when he was here the first time. Can't imagine in the 33 years on earth he didn't try it at least once. I suspect as a Holy Man he had a lot of willing female followers.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Technically according to Bible they were betrothed
Got a chapter and verse for this?


and there was no sex involved according to it.
Yeah, considering what god is said to be capable of doing I guess he wouldn't really have needed to penetrate Mary.

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Earthling

David Henson
hey Rathschild,
Wasn't `God` a `spirit`, and `He` fertilized Mary and Jesus was half spirit and half human.
But....Jesus was resurrected as spirit...and was the original `spirit` known as.....
Ok...I quit...but...there's something wrong here...isn't there !

No, no, no, Mud . . . goddammit!

God was a spirit being. Spirit, in the Bible, is something that is invisible to us but produces some visible result. Examples of spirit: Wind, breeze, breath, mental inclination, Holy Spirit and spirit beings. The spirit of the horse was broken. He was a mean spirited man.

Spirit beings don't reproduce. There was God, and then God created his only begotten (meaning the only part of creation created by God exclusively) first born (meaning first act of creation, first created being) son, Michael, who was also a spirit being, then God, with Jesus as his master worker and his Holy Spirit (meaning God's invisible active force) created a myriad of spirit creatures, or, as we commonly call them angel (angel actually meaning messenger).

Michael was the chief of angels, or arch angel. Only two other figures in the Bible besides Jehovah God have authority over the angels. Michael and Jesus.

Michael was the Logos, or word (meaning spokesperson, representative) of Jehovah. So, when an angel came to earth and took on the form of a human man in order to represent God to other men, it was likely Michael. In human form Michael was likely the one who wrestled with Jacob, who led the Israelites out of Egypt, who appeared with two other angels to Lot and destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah.

So, having no genitalia, no means of producing sperm in the human capacity, as a spirit being, God likely used Joseph's sperm and, so to speak, artificially inseminated Mary, thus producing the human baby Jesus. Fully human.

When Jesus died his body was dead and gone. His former spirit form was taken to the abyss for parts of three days, and then he returned with another body just as he had appeared many times in the past. That's why some of his followers didn't recognize him at first upon his return. He had also gone to heaven to speak to the other spirit beings who had took human form to have sex with human women and produce the Nephilim who influenced people to act like animals with the hydrophobia.

Then eventually Michael returned to heaven in spirit form.

See? Isn't that simple enough?!
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
hey Rothschild...,
I think that you're out of you're mind !
I call it twistology, mixing physicality with spirit !
And really... using Joseph's sperm...really ?
And on and on...
That's just like Skwim calling Jesus a bastar!
Were do you guys get these things !
Oh well...another page in the old book I guess !
 
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dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Christians don't believe God has a wife. That kind of belief is probably insulting to most of them.

Not all of 'em.

Some of 'em think He may have had more than one.

Me? I'm on the fence about it. There's certainly no reason He should not have, and plenty of reasons that He was. (shrug)

Doesn't matter to His purpose here, either way.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Hmmm. Not that I disagree with you, but, who is this God and who is the wife? If you answer Jehovah is the God and the faithful Christian congregation is his wife from a human mother then I very well might agree if you could provide scripture to support it, otherwise where would you have heard such a thing?



I personally think that your question is an interesting one, delivered with all due respect and sincerity and quite possibly supported by the an accurate knowledge of the Bible, depending upon your interpretation.

The thing is, Jesus was a man who died and so will never have children. He existed in spirit form in heaven prior to coming to earth as Jesus and he returned to heaven as he came, in spirit form. Spirit being don't multiply.
Do spirits have hands su that someone like Thomas feel scars in the flesh ? Do spirits eat ?
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Mary was chosen to carry Gods Son. Her child was not the result of having sex with any one.

She was a mother unlike any before, or after her, not to be compared to anything practiced or known by humans.
 

W3bcrowf3r

Active Member
Since Christianity believes that God has a wife from a human mother
The presence of the Son is proof that the Father has the desire of sons
Do you think that this desire will pass to the son?
That it was the rights of the Lord to have a son
Will it be a son's right to be a father in the future?

I mean, in fifty million years, will the offspring of God multiply?

This is a question for Christian brothers

If this question is causing a nuisance, I will remove it
with full respect :)
GOD bless you

Have you ever read the Gospel? What does the Quran in 2:285, 5:47 and 5:68 say?
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Got a chapter and verse for this?
I found Matthew 1:18. There's a lot of discussions about this on Christian sites. Interesting enough, Joseph was going to break off the betrothal because she was pregnant before they got married but the angel appeared and told him it's ok.

Yeah, considering what god is said to be capable of doing I guess he wouldn't really have needed to penetrate Mary..
Yep.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Not all of 'em.

Some of 'em think He may have had more than one.

Me? I'm on the fence about it. There's certainly no reason He should not have, and plenty of reasons that He was. (shrug)

Doesn't matter to His purpose here, either way.
True enough, why I think probably most of them find it an offensive idea.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
The reason that the Virgin Birth story made sense is because the scripture authors were so primitive. They simply didn't know where babies come from.

We now know that the baby is essentially in the female, all the male does is transfer a bit of genetic material from his mother to the new mother. The father is quite unimportant and dispensable, from the reproductive standpoint.
It rather shows in their instinctive behavior :) .

Back then, they thought a male planted his seed in a "vessel". Rather like planting a seed in a field, and sometimes he got "fruit" . That's why they referred to "the fruit of your womb", meaning a baby. Basically, they had it all backwards.
It's another instance of a Bible legend based on a profound misunderstanding of reality.
Tom
 
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