Without God(s), what is the point?!

[muhammad_isa]

We act in a myriad of different ways without consciously thinking about it..

..sounds pretty dangerous to me.
Do you drive? .. do you drive without consciously thinking about it?

..in any case, even if you act subconsciously, there is still an intention behind that, even if you are not consciously aware of it.

 

[Sheldon]

All of a nonbelievers actions are an expression of their non-beliefs.

So all of your actions are an expression of your lack of belief in mermaids? Must drive you nuts filtering everything through all the things you don't believe?

My actions are no more an expression of my lack of belief in deities than they are an expression of my lack of belief in unicorns, deities simply don't feature, they're entirely moot to my decision making.

 

[Sheldon]

Show me where I ever denied accountability to other people.

Believers are not accountable to anyone but God

 

[Sheldon]

..sounds pretty dangerous to me.
Do you drive? .. do you drive without consciously thinking about it?

Is English your first language? Did all our actions are without conscious thought?

..in any case, even if you act subconsciously, there is still an intention behind that, even if you are not consciously aware of it.

Nope, do you intend to become angry every time it happens? Ever stubbed your toe, and been startled or frightened? Did you intend the result, ever shivered in the cold? Arrived in a room with no idea why you went there?

 

[Trailblazer]

Trailblazer said: ↑
Show me where I ever denied accountability to other people.

Trailblazer said: ↑
Believers are not accountable to anyone but God

Believers are not accountable to anyone but God for their beliefs, they are only accountable for their actions.

 

[ppp]

Believers are not accountable to anyone but God for their beliefs, they are only accountable for their actions.

All of your actions are informed by your beliefs.

 

[Trailblazer]

All of your actions are informed by your beliefs.

All my actions are not necessarily informed by my religious beliefs. I have other reasons for doing things.

 

[ppp]

All my actions are not necessarily informed by my religious beliefs. I have other reasons for doing things.

Why are you repeating what I just said?

 

[Trailblazer]

Why are you repeating what I just said?

I didn't. I said something different.
I said that I have other reasons for doing things aside from my religious beliefs..

 

[Aupmanyav]

Believers are not accountable to anyone but God for their beliefs, they are only accountable for their actions.

Believers too are accountable to the law of the land.

 

[ppp]

I didn't. I said something different.
I said that I have other reasons for doing things aside from my religious beliefs..

If claiming that a subset is "different," from the set to which it belongs turns you on, then go for it

 

[KWED]

Christ fulfilled the requirements of the law so the law was no longer needed...by being the perfect sacrifice, once and for all time.

You are still talking in dogmatic platitudes.
What does this actually mean, in practical terms?

What do you not understand about it?

Imagine I was an alien who is fluent in English but has zero concept of Judaeo-Christian ideology.

 

[KWED]

..sounds pretty dangerous to me.
Do you drive? .. do you drive without consciously thinking about it?

That is actually a pretty good example.
Try driving whilst consciously thinking of every movement and action before you do it. Your performance will deteriorate.

..in any case, even if you act subconsciously, there is still an intention behind that, even if you are not consciously aware of it.

If you are unaware of doing something, then you cannot intend it. Pretty simple really.

 

[KWED]

Once again, @Trailblazer demonstrates their inability to debate in good faith or with consistency/honesty.

 

[Trailblazer]

Believers too are accountable to the law of the land.

Yes we are. That is a Baha'i teaching.

 

[KWED]

Believers are not accountable to anyone but God for their beliefs, they are only accountable for their actions.

All of a believers actions are an expression of their beliefs. (your own argument )

 

[muhammad_isa]

If you are unaware of doing something, then you cannot intend it. Pretty simple really.

Wrong .. minds have a subconscious element, as well as a conscious.
..just because we might not be consciously thinking about why we do something, does not mean that there is no underlying reason.

 

[Wildswanderer]

You are still talking in dogmatic platitudes.
What does this actually mean, in practical terms?

That I can be saved by grace and not by keeping the law. That I'm not under bondage to either the law or to sin but can live free by the power of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Sheldon]

Believers are not accountable to anyone but God for their beliefs, they are only accountable for their actions.

Trailblazer said: ↑
Show me where I ever denied accountability to other people.

 

[Trailblazer]

All of a believers actions are an expression of their beliefs. (your own argument )

No, I never made that argument.