Wolves in sheep's clothings when the light inside is darkness.

[Evie]

What are the names of the threads? Maybe they can explain how the evil ( iniquity) in Lucifer came to exist, when Lucifer was created, born into existence, from an ALL GOOD perfect Being. GOD?

Dodging a pertinent question won't make it go away.

 

[Evie]

Dodging a pertinent question won't make it go away.

Here is a thought. Doesn't LIKE BEGET LIKE? And God did BEGET Lucifer. That is assuming CREATED FROM is compatible with BEGOTTEN FROM.

 

[Evie]

Evil intent, iniquity: did not simply begin to exist with no means of being 'born into existence'. And scripture states: in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John. 1: verse 1 and verse 2 states 'The same was in the beginning with God'

 

[Evie]

Evil intent, iniquity: did not simply begin to exist with no means of being 'born into existence'. And scripture states: in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John. 1: verse 1 and verse 2 states 'The same was in the beginning with God'

 

[Evie]

I have answered EtyMalku when he considered it nonsense. Asking where I go it from. I replied Ezekiel. 28: 15. As yet EtuMalku has not replied back. Is EtuMalku Malku having difficulty coming up with an explanation as to how iniquity could be found in something 'born into existence' from an ALL GOOD GOD.

 

[Ingledsva]

What are the names of the threads? Maybe they can explain how the evil ( iniquity) in Lucifer came to exist, when Lucifer was created, born into existence, from an ALL GOOD perfect Being. GOD?

I don't remember the names of the threads as the original subject often turns to Satan, and I've been here for years. LOL!

Perhaps someone else remembers a name or two of the LONGER and more informative threads on the subject?

Anyway - Just use the search. Look for Satan, or Satan not Serpent, Lucifer not Satan, etc.

Some of them are very long - but full of information.

PS - There is no Lucifer in Tanakh. And that story is about a Babylonian King.

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[Evie]

I don't remember the names of the threads as the original subject often turns to Satan, and I've been here for years. LOL!

Perhaps someone else remembers a name or two of the LONGER and more informative threads on the subject?

Anyway - Just use the search. Look for Satan, or Satan not Serpent, Lucifer not Satan, etc.

Some of them are very long - but full of information.

PS - There is no Lucifer in Tanakh. And that story is about a Babylonian King.

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But Babylon is believed to be the System of Evil in the World.

 

[Evie]

And I would like to comment on the Wolves in sheeps' clothing. It can be seen in religious areas everywhere. People posing as Angels of light, but within are the opposite. Appearing pious and 'saintly' but their insides tell a different story. Their intentions far different from their. 'words'. Self interest NOT your interest is their motto. The Bible refers to them as 'greedy dogs'. Isaiah. 56: 11. Greedy graspers.

 

[Ingledsva]

... Maybe they can explain how the evil ( iniquity) in Lucifer came to exist, when Lucifer was created, born into existence, from an ALL GOOD perfect Being. GOD?

Thought I should add this concerning Lucifer (an incorrect translation, and not a name,) to show it is about the King of Babylon.

Isa 14:4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor failed! the golden city failed!

Isa 14:5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the scepter of the rulers.

Isa 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven (a height), O Bright rising star, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven (the heights), I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to Sheol/the grave, to the sides of the pit.

Isa 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

Isa 14:17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Isa 14:18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

Isa 14:19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; a carcass trodden under feet.

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[Evie]

And I would like to comment on the Wolves in sheeps' clothing. It can be seen in religious areas everywhere. People posing as Angels of light, but within are the opposite. Appearing pious and 'saintly' but their insides tell a different story. Their intentions far different from their. 'words'. Self interest NOT your interest is their motto. The Bible refers to them as 'greedy dogs'. Isaiah. 56: 11. Greedy graspers.

And Isaiah is the book Jesus first read from at the very beginning of His work.

 

[Ingledsva]

And Isaiah is the book Jesus first read from at the very beginning of His work.

Meaning what?

And please give the verses when you know them. Thanks.

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[Evie]

Meaning what?

And please give the verses when you know them. Thanks.

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And Isaiah is the book Jesus first read from at the very beginning of His work.

Luke 4: 17-21. States that Jesus read from the scroll of Isaiah.

 

[Evie]

I don't remember the names of the threads as the original subject often turns to Satan, and I've been here for years. LOL!

Perhaps someone else remembers a name or two of the LONGER and more informative threads on the subject?

Anyway - Just use the search. Look for Satan, or Satan not Serpent, Lucifer not Satan, etc.

Some of them are very long - but full of information.

PS - There is no Lucifer in Tanakh. And that story is about a Babylonian King.

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Babylon is believed to be the System of Religious Beliefs by some people. How do you respond to such a belief?

 

[Evie]

But Babylon is believed to be the System of Evil in the World.

. Which will have great worldwide influence over people and nations. See Revelation 17:5. And read in God's Written Word. 'And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY. BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.' It is written like this all in capital letters in Revelation 17:5

 

[RESOLUTION]

So, @RESOLUTION you know satan is a person. Is it because you have met him? I mean, is he male?
Can you show us where it is written, the person of satan?

I have heard him speak. When my youngest sister was 12 years old it was two days before her birthday,
In the previous 5 years two of my sisters lost babies.
The first child was a few month old. I had visited and her and it was by all accounts a great day. When I was leaving I heard the the Lord say to me. " Go back and kiss the baby you will never see her again." I went back automatically and kissed the baby goodbye and I never saw the baby again she died two weeks later. Then two years later I had been at a friends wedding.
I arrived home perfectly happy but knew all was not right. I waited for the knock on the door and it was my sister her child had died.

It would be almost 3 years later when I was visiting my parents home. Our youngest sister had been out with friends. I was sat in the lounge when a voice (not from God) something that
chilled your soul,spoke and said, " So far I have only taken the younger relatives what about when I take someone closer like your sister or" I got up and walked away from that voice then the telephone rang at the same moment. My sister had collapsed it took hours for a brain haemorrhage to be diagnosed. A long operation and then she passed several days later.

Do I know there is a Satan? Yes I do! You have to hope you never go through that, you have to hope you never become aware of such a person in your own reality.My life changed that
day and I was so shocked to my core of existence. But God came in and he shielded me. For years after, Satan could not get to me God healed me and reassured me of his loving
presence.I needed Gods healing presence just hearing him speak. So we may mock but you can probably understand why when I speak I am sure of God and the fact the devil also existed.

I wondered why I had knew about the other two deaths before they happened. But had I not been prepared by knowing when it comes from God, I am not sure I could have survived
the attack from Satan. Knowing Gods loving and gentle guiding hand when a loved one dies actually helped me when it came to the latter when it was not God.
God wants what is good for everyone. Satan just wants to hurt people.

 

[Evie]

I have heard him speak. When my youngest sister was 12 years old it was two days before her birthday,
In the previous 5 years two of my sisters lost babies.
The first child was a few month old. I had visited and her and it was by all accounts a great day. When I was leaving I heard the the Lord say to me. " Go back and kiss the baby you will never see her again." I went back automatically and kissed the baby goodbye and I never saw the baby again she died two weeks later. Then two years later I had been at a friends wedding.
I arrived home perfectly happy but knew all was not right. I waited for the knock on the door and it was my sister her child had died.

It would be almost 3 years later when I was visiting my parents home. Our youngest sister had been out with friends. I was sat in the lounge when a voice (not from God) something that
chilled your soul,spoke and said, " So far I have only taken the younger relatives what about when I take someone closer like your sister or" I got up and walked away from that voice then the telephone rang at the same moment. My sister had collapsed it took hours for a brain haemorrhage to be diagnosed. A long operation and then she passed several days later.

Do I know there is a Satan? Yes I do! You have to hope you never go through that, you have to hope you never become aware of such a person in your own reality.My life changed that
day and I was so shocked to my core of existence. But God came in and he shielded me. For years after, Satan could not get to me God healed me and reassured me of his loving
presence.I needed Gods healing presence just hearing him speak. So we may mock but you can probably understand why when I speak I am sure of God and the fact the devil also existed.

I wondered why I had knew about the other two deaths before they happened. But had I not been prepared by knowing when it comes from God, I am not sure I could have survived
the attack from Satan. Knowing Gods loving and gentle guiding hand when a loved one dies actually helped me when it came to the latter when it was not God.
God wants what is good for everyone. Satan just wants to hurt people.

The biggest 'lie' perpetrated on humanity by Satan, is to cause people to believe he doesn't exist.

 

[RESOLUTION]

And, what do you believe that promise will get you?

Have you read the bible? "All the promises of God are 'yes' to believers in Christ Jesus."
The promises of God are there to encourage, and enlighten us to be built up in faith and to have all he intends us to have.
We are receivers of the promises of God. So Gods promises through faith bring us truth and life.

It is probably difficult to comprehend when lumped but God is faithful to his people.

 

[RESOLUTION]

Could you be willing to discuss this further? Have you been following me?

I follow Christ. His first commandment is to love God. We know you never banked on that answer.

 

[RESOLUTION]

In this video at minute 120-121 (edited had the minutes wrong) Jordan Peterson identifies one of the primary roles of religion which is to teach us to focus on eliminating our personal weaknesses. As he is someone who studies and teaches about narratives and ideologies it is interesting to hear his personal testimony about what he has observed. This role is another reason not to backslide. I think when we backslide one of the first things that happens is we let our religion become judgmental and let it be about other people instead of about transforming ourselves. We misrepresent this to others as genuine religion through our own personal corruption.

"Sow righteousness for yourselves, reap the fruit of unfailing love, and break up your unplowed ground; for it is time to seek the LORD, until he comes and showers his righteousness on you." (Hosea 10:12) The focus here is upon personal transformation. To pay attention to anyone who is pointing fingers (as a prophet) you should scrutinize them. Do they have good traits? Can you see their life or is it secretive and only visible through stories about them. Can you drop in on this person. Have they shown excellence in any way.

“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?" (Matthew 7:15-16)

So the first thing about wolves in sheeps clothing is they point fingers, and the second thing is they do not want their personal lives observed.

"The wicked flee though no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold as a lion." (Proverbs 28:1)

This is what I was given:-
1 John 2:27
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Jeremiah 31:34
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD:
for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
John 14:17
Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
John 6:45
It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Milk drinkers still require teachers, Those who have the spirit the meat eater require no one to give them milk.

Meat eater make better judges than milk drinkers.

 

[RESOLUTION]

Wolves in sheep's clothing: So much hate was put in the Xistian bible and writings about the Jews which caused so much death and punishment. This religion Xristianity is based on hate and evil. Even now Xristians hate Israel, the Jews vandilize cemetaries and boycots, internet trolls...and also Muslims try to kill us and use knives. Such evil religions are worthless.

The hatred of the Jews because of jealousy has been going on long before the messiah came.
In fact the first Christians are what Christians should be called today, 'Jews'.

The OT of the Christian bible is the Jewish Covenant. I prefer the Old Covenant and the New Covenant because each speaks about God in both.
No Hate in the Christian NT as you write. So you have never read the bible according to what you write.
The OT the Jewish section of the bible before the Messiah came shows how being Jewish they were afflicted by others who were not Christians.
Perhaps when you can be bothered to read the truth you will not make such unfounded and untruthful allegations which reflect what you in reality were doing yourself in the post above.