Women: What happens in the voting booth, stays in the voting booth

[anna.]

If the female underground vote is based on emotion and gossip... Such women may have to sneak around their husbands to avoid explaining, since they are not sure why they fundamentally agree with something without understanding; emotional thinker. This was often why men will try to help them become rational...

Law of holes - Wikipedia

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[anna.]

Never said it was about me.
Never said I speak for all women.
I've been an advocate for restoring Roe v. Wade.
We're on the same side, but the far Left's intolerance of any variation of belief is ridiculous and damaging to the party.

Again: this isn't about whether *you* are an advocate for restoring Roe v. Wade.

This is about the women who will identify with, and perhaps be empowered by, the ads.

When will you talk about the women in the ad, and the women they represent in real life - and stop talking about yourself?

 

[We Never Know]

Most men I know don't tell their wives how to vote. My wife did not vote for Trump in 2016 but did in 2020 and in 2024. My two daughters voted for a third party candidate in this election. We have conversations but we all ultimately decide for ourselves. People can do marriages however they want but my opinion is a husband and wife should not keep secrets and should be able to talk about who they voted for. Promoting deceiving a spouse is unethical in my opinion.

Marriage is a partnership and they should be as a team.

If a spouse lies about something simple like voting, that shows dishonesty already exists in the marriage and trust is lacking.

Maybe they need to rethink their relationship.

 

[crossfire]

Marriage is a partnership and they should be as a team.

If a spouse lies about something simple like voting, that shows dishonesty already exists in the marriage and trust is lacking.

Maybe they need to rethink their relationship.

Voting is about individuals. One person, one vote. You don't give up your individuality just because you get married. I agree with you that if the ability to vote for the candidate of your choice becomes an issue in a marriage, perhaps it would be a good idea to rethink the marriage.

 

[We Never Know]

Voting is about individuals. One person, one vote. You don't give up your individuality just because you get married. I agree with you that if the ability to vote for the candidate of your choice becomes an issue in a marriage, perhaps it would be a good idea to rethink the marriage.

When I say team I am referring to have trust, no lies, support each other, etc.

 

[Koldo]

To be fair it also says this:

Eph 5:25 which you left off,

Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,

Yup. It doesn't change the fact that, biblically, wives should obey their husbands.

 

[Watchmen]

Again: this isn't about whether *you* are an advocate for restoring Roe v. Wade.

This is about the women who will identify with, and perhaps be empowered by, the ads.

When will you talk about the women in the ad, and the women they represent in real life - and stop talking about yourself?

I wish you and them the best.

 

[Koldo]

Most men I know don't tell their wives how to vote. My wife did not vote for Trump in 2016 but did in 2020 and in 2024. My two daughters voted for a third party candidate in this election. We have conversations but we all ultimately decide for ourselves. People can do marriages however they want but my opinion is a husband and wife should not keep secrets and should be able to talk about who they voted for. Promoting deceiving a spouse is unethical in my opinion.

The ad is not about you.
The target public are the women that feel pressured by their husband to vote in Trump.

 

[crossfire]

When I say team I am referring to have trust, no lies, support each other, etc.

Hence, if one partner feels the need to lie about how they voted, it would show a lack of support in the marriage and perhaps the marriage should be rethought.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Would it be unethical for one spouse to not tell the other spouse how they voted in order to protect the other spouse from voter intimidation charges? It could apply to either spouse.
See the US code I quoted earlier below:

How so? I am not following you.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Yup. It doesn't change the fact that, biblically, wives should obey their husbands.

I agree.

 

[Kathryn]

The ad is not about you.
The target public are the women that feel pressured by their husband to vote in Trump.

Oh. I don't know anyone like that but whatever you say.

 

[Kathryn]

Yup. It doesn't change the fact that, biblically, wives should obey their husbands.

My husband and I disagreed about one thing, and that was this: That in marriage there is no 50/50 split. There is at best a 51/49 split. (My take) I am better at house stuff and he was better at vehicle stuff. I was better at some things and he was better at other things. So we did what we did best and he literally never lorded anything over on me. He felt uncomfortable doing so, and he didn't do it. I mean, I guess if he had ever put down the law I would have obeyed that law but he simply never did so, and I was fine with that. I guess in that sense, I was "obeying him." Whatever. It simply never felt oppressive.

 

[crossfire]

How so? I am not following you.

In the OP it refers to Jesse Watters admitting that he would resort to voter intimidation if his wife voted for Harris. "It's over, Emma. It's D-Day!"

Jesse Watters Warns Wife That Secretly ‘Pulling The Lever’ For Kamala Harris Would Be Like ‘Having An Affair’: ‘D-Day!’

Watters' claim that if his wife were to secretly vote for Democratic nominee Kamala Harris he would see it as “the same thing as having an affair.”

www.mediaite.com

He began: “If I found out Emma was going to the voting booth and pulling the lever for Harris, that’s the same thing as having an affair.”


“Oh, my god,” Harold Ford Jr. responded.


“Let him finish,” co-panelist Tyrus interrupted.


Watters continued: “That violates the sanctity of our marriage. What else is she keeping from me? What is she lying about?


Tyrus laughed: “Roll the credits.”


Jeanine Pirro asked: “Why would she lie to you?”


Watters doubled down: “Why would she do that and vote Harris? Why would she say she was voting… If I caught her and she said ‘I lied to you for the last four years’


“So, you’d admit you’d intimidate…” Pirro began.


“It’s over, Emma!” Watters declared mockingly. “That would be D-Day!”


​

 

[Kenny]

Numbers 30:10-15

10 “If a woman living with her husband makes a vow or obligates herself by a pledge under oath 11 and her husband hears about it but says nothing to her and does not forbid her, then all her vows or the pledges by which she obligated herself will stand. 12 But if her husband nullifies them when he hears about them, then none of the vows or pledges that came from her lips will stand. Her husband has nullified them, and the Lord will release her. 13 Her husband may confirm or nullify any vow she makes or any sworn pledge to deny herself.[a] 14 But if her husband says nothing to her about it from day to day, then he confirms all her vows or the pledges binding on her. He confirms them by saying nothing to her when he hears about them. 15 If, however, he nullifies them some time after he hears about them, then he must bear the consequences of her wrongdoing.”

Ephesians 5:22-24 (and Colossians 3:18-19)

22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Yes… one can take snippets and misinterpret what God is saying at the expense of all that God said through His word...

Gal 3: 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. - There is equality and equity in Christ.

Eph As you noted: as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. (the head of the woman, as part iof the church, is Christ and not man. So you have to correctly divide the word of God such as Eph 5:21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.(it’s a two way street) - It isn’t dictatorship because the man is laying down his life for his wife.

1 Peter 3: Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered. If a husband is smart and want his prayers non hindered, he wouldn’t command his wife to vote a certain way.

So… vote away, woman! Vote as your heart leads you!!

 

[Kathryn]

Or his vision is poor. Or perhaps he has some medical problem and she's helping him.

Or maybe he followed her lead because she was better informed than him (that was the impression I got, since I was sitting right next to them).

 

[Kathryn]

So what? That is probably true. Do you think that you represent all women married to a Trump supporter? I would say that is clearly not the case. If this was just a nothingburger Republican operatives would have ignored it. That they are screaming "foul" tells us that it is true for a significant number of voters.

I don't know anyone like that. Di you?

 

[Kenny]

Yes it is.

• 22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. (Eph 5)
• “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent” (1 Timothy 2:11-12).

As one who has studied correctly…. NOPE!

Women: What happens in the voting booth, stays in the voting booth

If the female underground vote is based on emotion and gossip... Such women may have to sneak around their husbands to avoid explaining, since they are not sure why they fundamentally agree with something without understanding; emotional thinker. This was often why men will try to help them...

www.religiousforums.com

 

[Alien826]

The OP is about women who, for whatever their reasons are, don't have a sense of safety in sharing their voting decision with their husbands. The ad is targeted at a particular demographic which is out there, which many women will recognize and identify with, and perhaps will empower them. I hope so.

For once I waited until the end to compose a response. Time saved! This is what I was going to say.

The only thing I disliked about the ad was that the women were portrayed as being somewhat happy about "deceiving" their husbands. Not that they shouldn't be, but it weakened the message somewhat.

 

[Kenny]

That one is hilarious, but for all of the wrong reasons. Democrats will just laugh at that ad. The Democratic ad works because it is far closer to reality.

Well… then we both had a good laugh at both videos!