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Women: What happens in the voting booth, stays in the voting booth

Koldo

Outstanding Member
It is you interpretation of the divinely inspired word of God that I disagree with.

The interpretation that is not grounded on cherry picking to support any positions, but rather on what has been repeatedly stated through the bible? That is what you disagree with? Okay then.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
The interpretation that is not grounded on cherry picking to support any positions, but rather on what has been repeatedly stated through the bible? T
EXACTLY! Agree with you completely… It was what I was sharing with you.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
The original topic can be addressed by science, instead of opinion and philosophy. This is based on how male and female brains are wired differently. Men are visual animals, while women are more verbal; on the average. This is because men's brains are wired more front to back; eyes, while the women's brains are wired more side to side; ears. Women attract men with visual illusions; hair, makeup, eyes, body language, clothes, etc. to pander to their natural brain wiring; eyes. While men need charm, sense of human and a good line of bull to pander to the female wiring; ears. This is due to this natural brain wiring. It is common to all cultures.

This difference has a connection to the subjective and universal languages. There are 7000 human spoken languages on earth, meaning that the sounds of words are subjective. Any sound can means anything you want; slang. Each of the 7000 languages may have a different word for the thing, in English, we call human. While each work, can have more than one meaning. This divergence occurs between the sounds of human words are not based on natural sounds. Has anyone heard a cat make the sound "cat". That sound was arbitrary and once agreed upon, sort of has a cause and effect connection, but it is built on subjectivity and an unnatural foundation; manmade. The word Fascist appears to be mean the opposite for each political party; subjective.

Vision is actually a form of natural language, in that the human eyes are designed to allow all humans to see the same thing. Photons from the environment, are like the letters, words and sentences that reflect objects and actions. These natural photons impinge on the eyes, and then send signals to the brain for interpretation. For the most part, all humans will see the same things, independent of their human language. We can tell 7000 people, in each of the 7000 languages, to point to the cat, from a lineup of 1000 objects. Their unique spoken subjective language sound, will trigger the image of a cat in their imagination, and they can all agree to point to the cat. Men tend to have more access to that universal language of sight due to the wiring.

Universal language is not easy to do this with human language, unless you force everyone use only one of the 7000 languages. Males, by being more visual, have more universal common sense, beyond spoken language. Females can do all the same things, but will do visual much better, if it is in print to help them visualize. Education benefits women more than men. Men are innovative due to not always needing words to see the unspoken visual. Entrepreneurs, like Elon Musk, quit college to follow his unique visions. The front to back wiring of men conect the visual cortex; sight, to the imagination; self learning. It can skip the ears and the subjectivity.

If we get back to females, and their side-to side wiring, females have more balance between the left and right hemisphere; emotion; spatial, and thought; linear and rational, based on language. This is naturally designed for dealing with children. Women can read the emotions of their children; right brain and interpret that with their left brain; words. For example, babies have a number of cries; hunger, tired, frustrated, needs changing, manipulation, etc. The female can differentiate these, by how each cry makes her feel, and from that, take the right action or inaction. A male may just see and hear a child crying. Or her child may do something wrong, but the mother can sense his deeper needs by his voice. The father may just see the infraction. Unconditional love of the mother is often the feeling below the words and visual actions.

Although this side-to side wiring is useful and designed for mothers and her children, it can be manipulated by adults. Without the visual wiring, first line of differentiation, .like the men, women may not see how they are being tricked. If they sense a good feeling or empathy, of fear, and they see it in writing and conversation, they may go along with the subjectivity; charismatic leader.

Men tend to see first; universal language of physical reality, and are not as dependent on the words of others; fake news or an over the top Trump speech. Like with Trump and Harris, all the visual metrics of a good economy could be seen under Trump, and the reverse was seen under Biden and Harris. But if you depend upon the subjectivity of language and emotions, you can depart reality and ignore the eyes. This is why the country is more divided, eyes to ears.

The old tradition of the husband leading the wife is about seeing coming before hearing, since it is more natural, universal, and harder to manipulate than spoken language. A magic trick can manipulate, what you think you see. But that is elaborate or close range; card trick. If the goal is to manipulated a wide range of eyes, it gets too complicated. But gossip; words, with one sentence that anyone can create, can manipulate the same number of women, like a virus. The male offers a natural visual way to stay real. They cannot get them all.

What ha happened to culture; changing of roles; male and female is now female-male amalgam, is based on words; laws, books and TV talk shows. The magic trick to help fool the eyes is based on PC, DEI, and affirmative action. Half the people are put into holes, so they fall and appear the same height as the shorter ones. If the audience plays along; or is forced to, it can fool the bigger audience; new equal norm.

I believe it is time for the eyes of men to lead, and the ears of women to listen and help each other, by optimize the next generation of eyes and ears; pioneers and settlers. MAGA is a visual image, which why it appeals to men; compare your check book, then and now. The emotional turmoil was caused by the Swamp on the offense; Russian Collusion scam to law fare scams; watch the history.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I saw it and the Bible has multiple types of slavery. They vary from being almost the same as being almost no different from the chattel slavery of the Old South to someone working at purely overseeing tasks.
Don't forget that this also includes indentured servanthood where the indentured part is strictly voluntary on the part of the "servant."
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member

Jesse Watters, who had an affair with his second wife while married to his first wife said this:
At the close of the segment, Watters offered his own humorous take, speaking about his wife Emma DiGiovine, a relationship which he admitted in 2018 began as an affair while he was married to his first wife Noelle Inguagiato and DiGiovine was a producer on his show. The affair prompted Inguagiato to file for divorce.​
He began: “If I found out Emma was going to the voting booth and pulling the lever for Harris, that’s the same thing as having an affair.”​
“Oh, my god,” Harold Ford Jr. responded.​
“Let him finish,” co-panelist Tyrus interrupted.​
Watters continued: “That violates the sanctity of our marriage. What else is she keeping from me? What is she lying about?​
Tyrus laughed: “Roll the credits.”​
Jeanine Pirro asked: “Why would she lie to you?”​
Watters doubled down: “Why would she do that and vote Harris? Why would she say she was voting… If I caught her and she said ‘I lied to you for the last four years’​
“So, you’d admit you’d intimidate…” Pirro began.​
“It’s over, Emma!” Watters declared mockingly. “That would be D-Day!”​


I'd love to see the divorce court Judge's face when he said this!
Ugh, what a creep.

 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
If the female underground vote is based on emotion and gossip
Wow, that's pretty sexist.
, it is not going to be beneficial to the country. Intelligent women with a good handle on the issues, and in a good relationship with her husband; friend, will not mind talking about these things. Her husband will understand her view and her passion and accept her uniqueness. Lock step is a DNC thing. The commercial assume woman are air head, who have to sneak around, since she never discusses issues that impact us of all, with her husband, but rather prefer stay shallow to the gossip, and therefore feels the need to sneak around and not stand up.
Lockstep is a MAGA thing. So is "assuming woman are air head." Also a MAGA thing.
You're projecting.
Problems in marriage occur due to poor communication and trying to second guess each other. Since divorce is more important in the DNC, they may be projecting the source of their communication problem; ignorance due to silence and gossip.

I was watching a "man in the street" news special, who was at a Harris rally, and he was walking around asking people nicely if they were voting for Kamala. About 90% said yes. He was polite and friendly, and followed up with the question, do they think Trump is a Fascist? They also agreed. Then, he asked, do you know what a fascist is? All the women become stumped, and could not answer the last question. Uninformed and emotional lockstep is more on the DNC side. Trump women can discuss the economy and fascism.

To the Left, it is more about belonging to a group, that feels good, and reciting the party line without understanding what it means. Such women may have to sneak around their husbands to avoid explaining, since they are not sure why they fundamentally agree with something without understanding; emotional thinker. This was often why men will try to help them become rational; pros and cons. The DNC does not have many men left, so many DNC women flounder, and the DNC takes advantage of the emotional thinkers.

There was one young woman, who was afraid to say anything or lie, but when politely pushed, she whispered, Trump. She was afraid to become ostracized, and after she admitted it, she realize who the reporter was working for; FOX. She asked if he would not use her in his report, to avoid the emotional nags who expect ignorance conformity, and may get angry is you are not in line.

I was reading something about Bezos, who owns Washington Post and him not endorsing any candidate for President. He said this decision was based on people no longer fooled or responding well to the old media model of biased disinformation. It no longer makes economic sense, with many people lookin for real information. People are more informed or wish to be. That industry is going to need a new business model to survive. The DNC impact on media, has run its course. Group lying is no longer profitable. Bezos was smart enough to change with the times. Although his editorial staff is stuck in the past; glory days of mass media manipulation. The main stream media is now also divided. FOX is gaining market share since is more balanced but still reports facts that usually benefit the RNC, since the total lie machine is still 90% Harris making it easy to fact check and report.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Yes… one can take snippets and misinterpret what God is saying at the expense of all that God said through His word...

Gal 3: 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. - There is equality and equity in Christ.

Eph As you noted: as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. (the head of the woman, as part iof the church, is Christ and not man. So you have to correctly divide the word of God such as Eph 5:21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.(it’s a two way street) - It isn’t dictatorship because the man is laying down his life for his wife.

1 Peter 3: Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered. If a husband is smart and want his prayers non hindered, he wouldn’t command his wife to vote a certain way.

So… vote away, woman! Vote as your heart leads you!!

:hugehug:
Well, that's your spin on it, anyway.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Don't forget that this also includes indentured servanthood where the indentured part is strictly voluntary on the part of the "servant."
Yep, no argument on my part. The only people that I disagree with are those that try to claim that it was all indentured servitude. Just as the US had too kinds of slavery in its early years so did ancient the ancient Hebrews.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member

Ugh, what a creep.

Did you know that once upon a time FOX actually gave some effort into being "fair and balanced"? For example Hannity was not always the psychotic right winger that he is today. The show used to be Hannity and Colmes. He used to be the thoughtful conservative and Colmes was the thoughtful liberal. Unfortunately FOX's viewers grew tired of hearing both sides of the issues. At first when they got rid of Colmes Hannity was not unhinged. He did get worse and worse over the years and when Trump came along he was already there.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Did you know that once upon a time FOX actually gave some effort into being "fair and balanced"? For example Hannity was not always the psychotic right winger that he is today. The show used to be Hannity and Colmes. He used to be the thoughtful conservative and Colmes was the thoughtful liberal. Unfortunately FOX's viewers grew tired of hearing both sides of the issues. At first when they got rid of Colmes Hannity was not unhinged. He did get worse and worse over the years and when Trump came along he was already there.
Wow, I had completely forgotten that Colmes ever existed!
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
You were sharing with me your agreement with my position? Ok then.
You are giving a perfect example of Romans 14. You are doing it as unto the Lord! Didn’t mean to be a stumbling block.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Misusing scritpture once again to suit your narrative, I see.
LOL… if you want to believe that. My heart is clear, my conscience is clean, my judge is Jesus and my communion with God is sweet. Each of us will stand before the Lord on our own with no one next to us other than our advocate
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yep, no argument on my part. The only people that I disagree with are those that try to claim that it was all indentured servitude. Just as the US had too kinds of slavery in its early years so did ancient the ancient Hebrews.
True. Glad I am not tied to the old testament only!
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
True. Glad I am not tied to the old testament only!

IMO, the best approach is to read any religious texts and see what might be helpful.

When so many French converted to Buddhism, the Dalai Lama told them it is not important for them to convert but maybe just use some of the dharma they may find useful. To me, that's a sensible approach even if I'm all too often not sensible myself. :shrug:
 
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