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Would it Physically Impossible to Load Up Noah's Arc?

LittleNipper

Well-Known Member
My take is that when the FLOOD finally occurred, the fall of nature finally had caught up with the fall of man. As far as a Jewish concept of GOD, one only needs to consider that the Jewish leaders of the day imagined their messiah to be an earthly ruler. The MESSIAH in fact was so much more than that it would seem...
 

Darz

Member
My take is that when the FLOOD finally occurred, the fall of nature finally had caught up with the fall of man. As far as a Jewish concept of GOD, one only needs to consider that the Jewish leaders of the day imagined their messiah to be an earthly ruler. The MESSIAH in fact was so much more than that it would seem...


What was the fall of nature? Does nature have original sin too?
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Other than 2 animals of each species, other factors need to be considered.

You have to remember that they stayed in the ark for a full year, and not just the 40 days and 40 nights that it rained.

The other factors I referring to, are -

  • Food. You would need to store an enormous of food for both humans and animals. You must also remember that a number of animals were meat eaters.
  • Drinkable water. According to the Genesis aftermath of the flood, Noah had invented wine. So what did they drink?
The size of the ark, is simply not enough, to accommodate humans, animals and storage of food and drinks. As it stand, the ark posed a logistical nightmare.

Then there after the flood. With the entire destroyed by the flood, there would be no forests and no farm-able lands. What do the humans and animals eat. If you release the animals, then would the carnivore animals immediate kill and eat the other animals, before these animals could repopulate.
 
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LittleNipper

Well-Known Member
Other than 2 animals of each species, other factors need to be considered.

You have to remember that they stayed in the ark for a full year, and not just the 40 days and 40 nights that it rained.

The other factors I referring to, are -

  • Food. You would need to store an enormous of food for both humans and animals. You must also remember that a number of animals were meat eaters.
  • Drinkable water. According to the Genesis aftermath of the flood, Noah had invented wine. So what did they drink?
The size of the ark, is simply not enough, to accommodate humans, animals and storage of food and drinks. As it stand, the ark posed a logistical nightmare.

Then there after the flood. With the entire destroyed by the flood, there would be no forests and no farm-able lands. What do the humans and animals eat. If you release the animals, then would the carnivore animals immediate kill and eat the other animals, before these animals could repopulate.

The Bible indicates that likely all animals were hebivorous except the serpent which GOD condemned to eat dead things.
 

J Bryson

Well-Known Member
So he didn't save wolves, tigers, lions, minks, hyenas, cheetahs, and so on? Or were they herbivorous for that long after the fall?
 

darkendless

Guardian of Asgaard
A Question:

How the heck did they feed all those animals? The Worldwide flood would have taken decades to subsude, thats a lot of food. Also how did they stop the elephants getting scared of the mice, and the lions from eating zebras???
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
The amazing thing is how God hid all evidence of a worldwide flood that happened a mere 6000 yrs ago...
Sneaky God
 

gnostic

The Lost One
littlenipper said:
The Bible indicates that likely all animals were hebivorous except the serpent which GOD condemned to eat dead things.

There are more carnivore animals than just snakes.

You still don't understand.

They disembarked from the ark about precisely one year later.

A flood like it say in the bible would also destroy the land. A lot of the natural habitat would be gone, and would need more than just a few day.

For the humans:

  • Water would be undrinkable for months.
  • They can't eat the animals that they have because they have to allow the animals to repopulate the earth, and that would take a lot while.
  • They can't begin farming immediately, and even if they did, it would take a whole season or 2 to grow them before harvest.

For the animals:

  • What would the animals eat at the meantime, while the other animals repopulate the earth or for the plants to grow?
  • What would they drink?
If they release the wild animals, the carnivore would eat herbivorous animals. The herbivorous animals would starve while they wait for the right plants to grow. And if much of the lands have indeed being under water for so long, then you can't pick fruits from bushes and trees, because these plants would have rotted.

Humans would starve too, because they can't the animals they have, and they can't eat anything they could farm, because it would take time to grow.

You are forgetting that the bible say they landed on Mt Ararat.
 
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painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
Not to mention that we know the effects of genetic bottlenecks now. We can see it in the genome of the animals.

That is why conservationists are so worried about species that drop below a set threshold... generally about 300 individuals. There just isn't enough genetic diversity to prevent the population from inbreeding to the point that they will start getting genetic diseases.

Cheetahs have this problem right now, due to a bottleneck event about 10,000 years ago.

This is why I feel so badly for species in the "hundred heartbeats club". They are essentially the walking extinct.

wa:do
 

JMorris

Democratic Socialist
there are people who seriously think Noah's Arc actually happened?!?! wow......stunning
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Other than 2 animals of each species, other factors need to be considered.

You have to remember that they stayed in the ark for a full year, and not just the 40 days and 40 nights that it rained.

The other factors I referring to, are -

  • Food. You would need to store an enormous of food for both humans and animals. You must also remember that a number of animals were meat eaters.
  • Drinkable water. According to the Genesis aftermath of the flood, Noah had invented wine. So what did they drink?
The size of the ark, is simply not enough, to accommodate humans, animals and storage of food and drinks. As it stand, the ark posed a logistical nightmare.

Then there after the flood. With the entire destroyed by the flood, there would be no forests and no farm-able lands. What do the humans and animals eat. If you release the animals, then would the carnivore animals immediate kill and eat the other animals, before these animals could repopulate.

A Question:

How the heck did they feed all those animals? The Worldwide flood would have taken decades to subsude, thats a lot of food. Also how did they stop the elephants getting scared of the mice, and the lions from eating zebras???

The amazing thing is how God hid all evidence of a worldwide flood that happened a mere 6000 yrs ago...
Sneaky God

There's a perfectly workable explanation for all of these questions: magic.

You've already allowed "magic" (or "miracles" if you prefer) as a cause for things by assuming a global flood in the first place. Once you open the barn door for that, I see no reason to shut it and not allow it to explain away these other problems.
 

LittleNipper

Well-Known Member
There are more carnivore animals than just snakes.

You still don't understand.

They disembarked from the ark about precisely one year later.

A flood like it say in the bible would also destroy the land. A lot of the natural habitat would be gone, and would need more than just a few day.

For the humans:

  • Water would be undrinkable for months.
  • They can't eat the animals that they have because they have to allow the animals to repopulate the earth, and that would take a lot while.
  • They can't begin farming immediately, and even if they did, it would take a whole season or 2 to grow them before harvest.
For the animals:

  • What would the animals eat at the meantime, while the other animals repopulate the earth or for the plants to grow?
  • What would they drink?
If they release the wild animals, the carnivore would eat herbivorous animals. The herbivorous animals would starve while they wait for the right plants to grow. And if much of the lands have indeed being under water for so long, then you can't pick fruits from bushes and trees, because these plants would have rotted.

Humans would starve too, because they can't the animals they have, and they can't eat anything they could farm, because it would take time to grow.

You are forgetting that the bible say they landed on Mt Ararat.

Well, interestingly, GOD only sends to Noah the land animals. GOD deals with the marine life and the grass/trees. So GOD could and likely provided for the animals and Noah's family; however, right after the FLOOD, GOD commands Noah in chapter 9 of Genesis that he could now eat meat and how he may eat it.

So, it can be logically deduced that GOD did this to provide an additional food source for Noah (as fruit was likely somewhat scarce and the environment had likely changed drastically).
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Well, interestingly, GOD only sends to Noah the land animals. GOD deals with the marine life and the grass/trees. So GOD could and likely provided for the animals and Noah's family; however, right after the FLOOD, GOD commands Noah in chapter 9 of Genesis that he could now eat meat and how he may eat it.

So, it can be logically deduced that GOD did this to provide an additional food source for Noah (as fruit was likely somewhat scarce and the environment had likely changed drastically).
Sounds like a recipe for scurvy.
 
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