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Would Putin Go After Hillary Over This?

esmith

Veteran Member
President Trump benefits for Russia:

Crimea/Ukraine
Removal of sanctions/unfeezing of assets
Weaker NATO, end to NATO expansionism
Division between EU and US
Syria/ME
Less focus on human rights
Less antagonistic foreign policy in general

Isn't that just a little but more significant than a 5 year old Clinton slight?

So personal huff, or massive financial and geo-political benefits?
Opinion or fact? However, it seems the Hillary gives credence to the idea (see my post # 17)
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Sorry to burst your bubble tytlyf but I think your darling Hillary just did it. How say you now?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia-fbi-comey.html

Of course I know you will attempt to squirm or deflect or just avoid this thread as you usually do when things don't go your way.
That's her opinion. It's clear that Russia/Ukraine have some sort of insider situation going on with Trump. But you welcome Russia hacking, as long as it's against democrats.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
That's her opinion. It's clear that Russia/Ukraine have some sort of insider situation going on with Trump. But you welcome Russia hacking, as long as it's against democrats.
Oh I see how your spinning your statement....it's only Hillary's opinion and I disagree with it therefore it must be wrong. Gotcha sonny.

No I'm not for anyone hacking. It is against the law.

As far as your statement "Russia/Ukraine have some sort of insider situation going on with Trump."; got to caution you on making erroneous statements. Ukraine and Russia are diametrically opposed to each other. I think you are getting the area known as Crimea and the Ukraine mixed up. Oh, by the way we supposedly support the Ukraine, so why wouldn't President-elect Trump not support the Ukraine also?

Why is it that you and the rest of your "crowd" are going hermitile over the release of emails associated with the DNC yet were praising the actions of Eric Snowden and Bradley Manning.?
 

esmith

Veteran Member
All are based on what him or his team have said.
Talk is cheap, let's wait and see what does happen

Do you doubt that Trump foreign policy will be more friendly towards Russia?
I look at it this way. Russia is now a major player in the Middle East and Putin wants to return to the glory days of the USSR.
Now we can go about it a couple of ways.
The Obama way....The Russian reset....nope. Obama....I'll have more flexibility after election'
Seems to me the Obama wanted to make nice with Russia, the only problem was Putin didn't want to be nice to the Obama.
Let see if we can get someone to engage the Russians at their level of gamesmanship. Something like maybe diplomacy backed by strength vice diplomacy backed by......whatever it was it didn't work.

Easier than admitting that she is very unpopular, ran a **** campaign and personally cost her party the election.
I agree with you totally. As much as I dislike the Hillary, probably more than Obama even, if she had at least attempted to appeal to the working class she might have won the election. We will never know though. Also I blame the feckless Democratic party bowing down to the Clinton's and not putting a serious candidate up against the Hillary who they knew was a severally damaged commodity. What was it? Had the decision been made that it was the Hillary's turn and they were not going to contest it?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Why is it that you and the rest of your "crowd" are going hermitile over the release of emails associated with the DNC yet were praising the actions of Eric Snowden and Bradley Manning.?
Snowden actually gave Wikileaks substance unlike podestas and the others emails. Such a large undertaking someone did and nothing juicy.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Snowden actually gave Wikileaks substance unlike podestas and the others emails. Such a large undertaking someone did and nothing juicy.
So you have not problem with Snowden breaking the law? Hmmmm
I guess it only becomes a problem under certain circumstances?
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Oh I see how your spinning your statement....it's only Hillary's opinion and I disagree with it therefore it must be wrong. Gotcha sonny.

No I'm not for anyone hacking. It is against the law.

As far as your statement "Russia/Ukraine have some sort of insider situation going on with Trump."; got to caution you on making erroneous statements. Ukraine and Russia are diametrically opposed to each other. I think you are getting the area known as Crimea and the Ukraine mixed up. Oh, by the way we supposedly support the Ukraine, so why wouldn't President-elect Trump not support the Ukraine also?

Why is it that you and the rest of your "crowd" are going hermitile over the release of emails associated with the DNC yet were praising the actions of Eric Snowden and Bradley Manning.?
There is no spin. It's fake news. And who said anyone praises Snowden and Manning? Conservatives don't praise them?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
So you have not problem with Snowden breaking the law? Hmmmm
I guess it only becomes a problem under certain circumstances?
I was only talking about the substance of the material. It's like Wikileaks resorted to releasing tabloid drama.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Oh I see how your spinning your statement....it's only Hillary's opinion and I disagree with it therefore it must be wrong. Gotcha sonny.

No I'm not for anyone hacking. It is against the law.

As far as your statement "Russia/Ukraine have some sort of insider situation going on with Trump."; got to caution you on making erroneous statements. Ukraine and Russia are diametrically opposed to each other. I think you are getting the area known as Crimea and the Ukraine mixed up. Oh, by the way we supposedly support the Ukraine, so why wouldn't President-elect Trump not support the Ukraine also?

Why is it that you and the rest of your "crowd" are going hermitile over the release of emails associated with the DNC yet were praising the actions of Eric Snowden and Bradley Manning.?

There is no spin. It's fake news. And who said anyone praises Snowden and Manning? Conservatives don't praise them?

What is fake news about what was said in the above quoted post (mine)????
 

habiru

Active Member
One thing for sure is that Pres. Trump will pardon all of those that were apart of Wikileaks. But Obama's and the Hillarians clans are trying to make it seems as if they are Russian's agents and that President Trump is going to pardon them because he is a Russian's agent as well. That those that wants them to be pardoned. That they should write to Trump to pardon them, and write to Obama to mine his own business, and to go back to his gay lovers that performs fellatio on him.


Manning's lawyers argue in the letter that she's already served more time than typical leakers and call on Obama to extend her the same leniency he has to other offenders. They write that Manning was under significant stress due to her gender dysphoria when she leaked the documents. Their argument also includes the stress placed on the judge in an extremely public trial, given that her leaks were the relatively unique and so wide-reaching. She was just 25 and a private-first-class when the court handed down her sentence. Chelsea Manning Asks Obama For Release Before Trump Takes Office

On the other hand, let’s take a look at another lady who stands accused of mishandling US secrets, including material classified “Top Secret”: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

While serving as Secretary of State, she violated US government protocol by conducting both her professional and personal email correspondence on her own private server. This alone is illegal, but her crimes don’t stop there. Chelsea Manning and Hillary Clinton: A Case of Double Standards - Antiwar.com Original

(CNN)KT McFarland, Donald Trump's pick to be his deputy national security adviser, once wrote that former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning should be tried for treason and executed if found guilty.

Manning was convicted and sentenced to 35 years in prison for handing over a trove of classified documents to Wikileaks. McFarland, a national security analyst and host of an online Fox News show for years, made the comments in a weekly column on the Fox News' website. Trump national security pick once wrote Chelsea Manning should be tried for treason, executed if guilty - CNNPolitics.com


Cassandra FairbanksVerified account‏@CassandraRules
Trump should really pardon Julian Assange. His forcing of transparency and fearlessness may have saved us from Clinton's WWIII.



 

idav

Being
Premium Member
One thing for sure is that Pres. Trump will pardon all of those that were apart of Wikileaks. But Obama's and the Hillarians clans are trying to make it seems as if they are Russian's agents and that President Trump is going to pardon them because he is a Russian's agent as well. That those that wants them to be pardoned. That they should write to Trump to pardon them, and write to Obama to mine his own business, and to go back to his gay lovers that performs fellatio on him.


Manning's lawyers argue in the letter that she's already served more time than typical leakers and call on Obama to extend her the same leniency he has to other offenders. They write that Manning was under significant stress due to her gender dysphoria when she leaked the documents. Their argument also includes the stress placed on the judge in an extremely public trial, given that her leaks were the relatively unique and so wide-reaching. She was just 25 and a private-first-class when the court handed down her sentence. Chelsea Manning Asks Obama For Release Before Trump Takes Office

On the other hand, let’s take a look at another lady who stands accused of mishandling US secrets, including material classified “Top Secret”: Hillary Rodham Clinton.

While serving as Secretary of State, she violated US government protocol by conducting both her professional and personal email correspondence on her own private server. This alone is illegal, but her crimes don’t stop there. Chelsea Manning and Hillary Clinton: A Case of Double Standards - Antiwar.com Original

(CNN)KT McFarland, Donald Trump's pick to be his deputy national security adviser, once wrote that former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning should be tried for treason and executed if found guilty.

Manning was convicted and sentenced to 35 years in prison for handing over a trove of classified documents to Wikileaks. McFarland, a national security analyst and host of an online Fox News show for years, made the comments in a weekly column on the Fox News' website. Trump national security pick once wrote Chelsea Manning should be tried for treason, executed if guilty - CNNPolitics.com


Cassandra FairbanksVerified account‏@CassandraRules
Trump should really pardon Julian Assange. His forcing of transparency and fearlessness may have saved us from Clinton's WWIII.



You really think trump will pardon NSA contractors that give Wikileaks intel. Doubt it.
 

habiru

Active Member
You really think trump will pardon NSA contractors that give Wikileaks intel. Doubt it.
Well as he has put it when his own personal body guard had pushed the woman reporter away. That the DNC was telling him that he should fired his body guard. But President Trump responded back that he will not because he doesn't betray his friends.
Basically the Wikileaks has helped him to win this election by unveiling the things Hillary was and still doing. They has put their life on the line for him.


“Can’t we just drone this guy?” Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother Wikileaks via a planned military drone strike, according to State Department sources. https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252FThe_Donald%252Fcomments%252F55n91m%252F
Last week, I alerted you about Thomas Perez, the scandal-ridden Department of Justice (DOJ) official who is now officially President Obama’s pick to head the Department of Labor. The Inspector General (IG) had just come out with a disturbing report proving what Judicial Watch has said all along, that Perez and Holder lied to Congress and have instigated a divisive and bitter race war inside the DOJ. Obama Corruption Alert! - Judicial Watch

Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server

Obama’s Latest Attempt to Save Clinton From Indictment
POTUS delays critical email release to protect Entitled Establishment Darling Obama’s Latest Attempt to Save Clinton From Indictment

Manning's lawyers argue in the letter that she's already served more time than typical leakers and call on Obama to extend her the same leniency he has to other offenders. They write that Manning was under significant stress due to her gender dysphoria when she leaked the documents. Their argument also includes the stress placed on the judge in an extremely public trial, given that her leaks were the relatively unique and so wide-reaching. She was just 25 and a private-first-class when the court handed down her sentence.

Obama may or may not feel compelled to comply, given that WikiLeaks played an extremely active role in sabotaging the candidacy of his chosen successor. Chelsea Manning Asks Obama For Release Before Trump Takes Office


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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
And who said anyone praises Snowden and Manning?
To me, they are heroes. They don't have guns, a uniform, and aren't shooting people, but they put themselves in great danger to benefit the American people and expose the illegal activities of the government.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Well as he has put it when his own personal body guard had pushed the woman reporter away. That the DNC was telling him that he should fired his body guard. But President Trump responded back that he will not because he doesn't betray his friends.
Basically the Wikileaks has helped him to win this election by unveiling the things Hillary was and still doing. They has put their life on the line for him.


“Can’t we just drone this guy?” Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother Wikileaks via a planned military drone strike, according to State Department sources. https://www.reddit.com/r/path%3D%252Fr%252FThe_Donald%252Fcomments%252F55n91m%252F
Last week, I alerted you about Thomas Perez, the scandal-ridden Department of Justice (DOJ) official who is now officially President Obama’s pick to head the Department of Labor. The Inspector General (IG) had just come out with a disturbing report proving what Judicial Watch has said all along, that Perez and Holder lied to Congress and have instigated a divisive and bitter race war inside the DOJ. Obama Corruption Alert! - Judicial Watch

Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server Justice Dept. grants immunity to staffer who set up Clinton email server

Obama’s Latest Attempt to Save Clinton From Indictment
POTUS delays critical email release to protect Entitled Establishment Darling Obama’s Latest Attempt to Save Clinton From Indictment

Manning's lawyers argue in the letter that she's already served more time than typical leakers and call on Obama to extend her the same leniency he has to other offenders. They write that Manning was under significant stress due to her gender dysphoria when she leaked the documents. Their argument also includes the stress placed on the judge in an extremely public trial, given that her leaks were the relatively unique and so wide-reaching. She was just 25 and a private-first-class when the court handed down her sentence.

Obama may or may not feel compelled to comply, given that WikiLeaks played an extremely active role in sabotaging the candidacy of his chosen successor. Chelsea Manning Asks Obama For Release Before Trump Takes Office

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Wikileaks didn't really reveal anything about Hillary but they did claim it would for months and months. If he NSA really has people's emails like Snowden has said they should be revealing stuff that gets people put in jail,not whether Hillary searches for depends. The email hacks were of podesto and others not named Hillary. It was ridiculous as if we are expected to find Hillary stuff via podesta or Weiner that was not already seen on her private server.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Opinion or fact? However, it seems the Hillary gives credence to the idea (see my post # 17)
Fact.
All of these things are facts.

Just as it's a fact that Trump started his campaign for president with a lie. He said he would release his tax returns and then decided not to. You may not care about Trump lies, but he did.
Tom
 

habiru

Active Member
Wikileaks didn't really reveal anything about Hillary but they did claim it would for months and months. If he NSA really has people's emails like Snowden has said they should be revealing stuff that gets people put in jail,not whether Hillary searches for depends. The email hacks were of podesto and others not named Hillary. It was ridiculous as if we are expected to find Hillary stuff via podesta or Weiner that was not already seen on her private server.

 
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