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Would Putin Go After Hillary Over This?

esmith

Veteran Member
Fact.
All of these things are facts.

Just as it's a fact that Trump started his campaign for president with a lie. He said he would release his tax returns and then decided not to. You may not care about Trump lies, but he did.
Tom
Why do you want to see his tax returns? Is it just because he said he would or is there also another reason?
 

esmith

Veteran Member
What does the wikileaks thing have to do with Hillarys private server?
As far as facts go, nothing.
The information was found during the Benghazi investigation , correct?
I'm fairly positive the NYT did the first story on her server, correct?

If you ask me Hillary's problems was not the information from wikileaks but from everything surrounding the server issue.
Now the wikileaks of the DNC did cast a very harmful shadow on the Dem's and what they were doing. Now since Hillary is a Dem it might reflect back on her; but that as far as I see wasn't the problem with her campaign.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Why do you want to see his tax returns? Is it just because he said he would or is there also another reason?
Well, there is the fact that he ran as the "tells it like it is" candidate. Since he lies just like politicians do, that makes his supporters even more gullible than most. I never claimed that Hillary was particularly honest. Trump supporters claimed that he was different in that way, but he isn't. And the facts are out there for everybody to see.

Then there is the fact that he and his supporters claim that he is great at business. It was his only real credential for the office. But he won't give even the most basic evidence of that. He came out and admitted that he hadn't made enough to pay federal income taxes for a decade or more. So where is the evidence that he is a brilliant bbusinesman, rather than a slick conman? There is none, because he lied about releasing his tax returns.
Trump didn't have to stop with releasing his tax returns. He could have shown us just how brilliant he is by making all sorts of information available. Like why Trump University was great. But he didn't, he just lied and lied. And enough people bought the lies to get an electoral college majority and now I am stuck with a president whose main talent is lying and Twitter battles and lawsuits.
And being a Christian. Let's not forget that Donald Trump is a Christian. Hugely Christian.
Tom
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Well, there is the fact that he ran as the "tells it like it is" candidate. Since he lies just like politicians do, that makes his supporters even more gullible than most. I never claimed that Hillary was particularly honest. Trump supporters claimed that he was different in that way, but he isn't. And the facts are out there for everybody to see.

Then there is the fact that he and his supporters claim that he is great at business. It was his only real credential for the office. But he won't give even the most basic evidence of that. He came out and admitted that he hadn't made enough to pay federal income taxes for a decade or more. So where is the evidence that he is a brilliant bbusinesman, rather than a slick conman? There is none, because he lied about releasing his tax returns.
Trump didn't have to stop with releasing his tax returns. He could have shown us just how brilliant he is by making all sorts of information available. Like why Trump University was great. But he didn't, he just lied and lied. And enough people bought the lies to get an electoral college majority and now I am stuck with a president whose main talent is lying and Twitter battles and lawsuits.
And being a Christian. Let's not forget that Donald Trump is a Christian. Hugely Christian.
Tom
Ok, good enough
However, I will reserve my opinion until a later date and then I will still be satisfied one way or another. In other words I'm a Anyone-But-Hillary.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
However, I will reserve my opinion until a later date
Your opinion about what?
Did Trump agree to release his tax returns and not do so? If you agree that he lied about that, why do you think he lied? He had a reason. What do you think it is?
Tom
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Wow, what do you liberals have against the Russians? What have they done to you other than help expose your lies and deplorable conduct?
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Wow, what do you liberals have against the Russians? What have they done to you other than help expose your lies and deplorable conduct?
When did Christian conservative Republicans get so cozy with Russia and Putin?
Raw, unAmerican, partisanship is what it looks like to me.
Tom
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
You pretty much stand against everything that I stand for, and you stand for everything I stand against. If that is not an enemy, then what is?
I oppose elective abortion, does this mean you are in favor of it?

What does Putin stand for that you find so attractive?
Tom
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Wow, what do you liberals have against the Russians? What have they done to you other than help expose your lies and deplorable conduct?
Principles and being an american should stand above partisanship. The question should be what does Russia have against America? I don't have anything against Moscow except they keep attacking my servers at work.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Why do you think so?
Tom
Putin has said,
“We want to and are ready to work with the United States.”
“But here’s where I will pay close attention, and where I exactly welcome and where on the contrary I don’t see anything bad: Mr Trump has declared that he’s ready for the full restoration of Russian-American relations. Is there anything bad there? We all welcome this, don’t you?”
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
I oppose elective abortion, does this mean you are in favor of it?

What does Putin stand for that you find so attractive?
Tom
I did say "pretty much". But I'm glad you oppose elective abortions.

He stands for the nation and people of Russia, our neighbors, who have a hell of a lot more in common with me than the Muslims that Obama is catering to.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Putin has said,
“We want to and are ready to work with the United States.”
Why would you believe that? Do you think Putin is more trustworthy than Hillary? If so, why?
Putin is putting together a coalition in the Middle East. Iran and Syria are already in his camp.
I see a war brewing. And Putin just picked the US president he would most prefer to make war against. A weak president, even his own allies are against him. A president with no international clout at all.
And now you are siding with Putin!
Reagan must be rolling in his grave.
Tom
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Principles and being an american should stand above partisanship. The question should be what does Russia have against America? I don't have anything against Moscow except they keep attacking my servers at work.
Secure your servers.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
He stands for the nation and people of Russia, our neighbors, who have a hell of a lot more in common with me than the Muslims that Obama is catering to.
What?
Are you one of those Toby Keith people, who don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran? But have opinions.
In case you are unaware, Benghazi is a city in the Muslim country of Libya. Obama blew it all up. Obama is not catering to Muslims.
Tom
 
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