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Would Putin Go After Hillary Over This?

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Why would you believe that? Do you think Putin is more trustworthy than Hillary? If so, why?
Putin is putting together a coalition in the Middle East. Iran and Syria are already in his camp.
I see a war brewing. And Putin just picked the US president he would most prefer to make war against. A weak president, even his own allies are against him. A president with no international clout at all.
And now you are siding with Putin!
Reagan must be rolling in his grave.
Tom
I do not have sufficient information to tell you who is more trustworthy. I know that Hillary is not trustworthy.
Apparently, from what you are saying, war is coming regardless whether Hillary was president or if Trump is president. If this is true, it doesn't really matter does it?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
I think you missed the point.
An enemy is someone trying to harm the person. Having a difference of opinion doesn't make a person an enemy. Someone trying to harm democracy and right to fair voting is an enemy.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
What?
Are you one of those Toby Keith people, who don't know the difference between Iraq and Iran? But have opinions.
In case you are unaware, Benghazi is a city in the Muslim country of Libya. Obama blew it all up. Obama is not catering to Muslims.
Tom
He did not blow it all up. He destabilized it, causing all radical Islamists to further fester hatred for us.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
An enemy is someone trying to harm the person. Having a difference of opinion doesn't make a person an enemy. Someone trying to harm democracy and right to fair voting is an enemy.
Differences of opinion is the only thing that causes a person to become an enemy.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Apparently, from what you are saying, war is coming regardless whether Hillary was president or if Trump is president. If this is true, it doesn't really matter does it?
I think Hillary could have headed it off, better than Trump. She's a hardened old byatch of a warhawk. Putin wouldn't mess with her the way he will with his boy Trump.
That is why he wanted Trump as an opponent, not Clinton. Putin isn't looking to sing Kumbaya around any campfires. He plays to win.
Tom
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
I think Hillary could have headed it off, better than Trump. She's a hardened old byatch of a warhawk. Putin wouldn't mess with her the way he will with his boy Trump.
That is why he wanted Trump as an opponent, not Clinton. Putin isn't looking to sing Kumbaya around any campfires. He plays to win.
Tom
Then perhaps we will win.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
Putin v Trump?
I doubt it. Trump gets his panties in a wad over almost nothing. Remember that Twitter battle with a bimbo from a beauty contest?
Tom
It's moot.. Trump is the President Elect. We'll have to wait and see what happens. Speculation at this point isn't doing anyone any good.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
It's moot.. Trump is the President Elect. We'll have to wait and see what happens. Speculation at this point isn't doing anyone any good.
This thread is about Putin and why he invested in the USA election. To me, that's obvious. Putin agrees with me, Trump is a weak leader. Trump will be better for Russia than the USA. But you're right, done is done. Trump is president and I have to live with that.
But his lies are still lies and you have to live with choosing that. I don't.
Tom
 

habiru

Active Member
What does the wikileaks thing have to do with Hillarys private server?
For one thing, she has lied and said that were all the emails that she has handed over to them. Did you know Martha Stewart had only lied one time? And now since they are reopening the case,and which that says a lot about what wikileaks has been exposing about Hillary.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
This thread is about Putin and why he invested in the USA election. To me, that's obvious. Putin agrees with me, Trump is a weak leader. Trump will be better for Russia than the USA. But you're right, done is done. Trump is president and I have to live with that.
But his lies are still lies and you have to live with choosing that. I don't.
Tom
Please list Trump's lies.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Your opinion about what?
Did Trump agree to release his tax returns and not do so? If you agree that he lied about that, why do you think he lied? He had a reason. What do you think it is?
Tom
I really don't care if he ever releases his tax returns, it isn't a big thing as far as I'm concerned.
The end of the world has not ended, there is plenty of time, I hope, left for him to do so. I don't think he put an exact date on the matter did he?
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
really don't care if he ever releases his tax returns, it isn't a big thing as far as I'm concerned.
Trump lied about the only real credential he had, and you don't care?
That's the problem I see with Trump supporters. As long as he keeps saying things that they like to hear, it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
Tom
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Trump lied about the only real credential he had, and you don't care?
That's the problem I see with Trump supporters. As long as he keeps saying things that they like to hear, it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
Tom
Let me ask you a question
Why do you want to see his tax returns? Other than he said he would release that at a "latter" date and that date has not gotten here.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Wow...haha. Dangerous.
Please explain why it is "dangerous" that I don't care what his tax returns say.
Do you think he did anything illegal? If you do see them do you think you are more qualified to make a decision about the "legality" of them than the tax layers he hired or the IRS who looked at them.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Please explain why it is "dangerous" that I don't care what his tax returns say.
That is not what is dangerous. What's dangerous is that Trump ran as the "tells it like it is" candidate and promised to release his tax returns before the election. Then he lied and dissembled about it. He kept coming up with spurious reasons for breaking the promise.
And the thing is, his business acumen was his sole credential. Unless you want to count media manipulation and Twitter battles. His tax returns could have bolstered that claim or destroyed it. His lying about it and refusing to back up his claim that he is a brilliant businessman speaks volumes about him. And the fact that his supporters don't care about lies, as long as they are lies they like, speaks volumes about them.
Tom
 
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