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WOW! Chrstians are not the only people in the world!

If it's really happening, does it matter if you hear it in the news or not?

You're missing the point entirely though. People shouldn't have to be silent about their ailments because it annoys you personally. That's a rather selfish request.

IM sure im not the only person. It would ammter, if i did hear it, then i wouldnt post this thread would i?
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
IM sure im not the only person. It would ammter, if i did hear it, then i wouldnt post this thread would i?
Nor did I say you were the only person.

And you have obviously heard about Christian persecution, straight from the Christians themselves. And yet, you posted this thread......
 
Nor did I say you were the only person.

And you have obviously heard about Christian persecution, straight from the Christians themselves. And yet, you posted this thread......

News, this forum isnt a place for news. Then again some Christiannew.net sort a website, a place where probably 1 death is ballooned to a 1000 deaths.Christians have the knack to show everything as Christian, the way some of them say thins seem as if Christianity was the firs treligion and is the origin of everything.
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
News, this forum isnt a place for news. Then again some Christiannew.net sort a website, a place where probably 1 death is ballooned to a 1000 deaths.Christians have the knack to show everything as Christian, the way some of them say thins seem as if Christianity was the firs treligion and is the origin of everything.
This forum isn't a place for news? :areyoucra

All religions have a knack to show everything as their particular religion. Why do you get upset when Christians do it and why don't you call any other religions out on it?

Please back your statement of one Christian death being balloned into thousands with a particular incident or some kind of evidence.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
While I have never been persecuted for my faith in the USA, I have heard about it in other countries (most recently in India and China). I have also heard about persecution of other religions, too. I don't like persecution in any form, including stories of gays being beat up just because they are gay, or blacks being beaten just because they are black. They kind of thing is a terrible thing. There is no excuse for it at all.

People generally notice persecution of their own kind more than that of others, since it effects them personally. What people need to know is that they are not alone in their suffering.
 

Jistyr

Inquisitive Youngin'
the way some of them say thins seem as if Christianity was the firs treligion and is the origin of everything.
And you don't believe that about Hinduism?

You would scorn someone for believing that their faith is truth, simply because it is different from your own?
 
And you don't believe that about Hinduism?

You would scorn someone for believing that their faith is truth, simply because it is different from your own?

Yeah i do, doesent mean i go round shoving it in peoples faces. If i said believe, then i apolagise.
 

tomspug

Absorbant
How about the thousands of Monks that were slaughtered by the government in former Thailand? Was that ballooned information? I understand that you are biased against Christianity, but it is ridiculous the huge amounts of generalizations against one religion.

Take a hint from the number of people speaking out against this thread.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Christians are not the only persecuted in China.

Communist China has more to do with the political control over the people than about atheism. China don't want any free-thinking idea of democracy for China from atheism or other type of non-theistic groups. They are against free-thinking atheists who wants more rights for their people, and will arrest them just as quickly as they would Christian preaching out in public.
 

tomspug

Absorbant
I agree. I never meant to imply that.

For example, in my previous post, the Buddhist monks were murdered in a Communist nation. And you're right, there is a correlation between religion and free-thinking. The only reason I focused on Christianity was because this topic is concerning that subject.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The only reason I focused on Christianity was because this topic is concerning that subject.
Ok. You must also understand that the OP has nothing to do with China or with communism.

Considering that penguino is from the UK, it would seem that he is implying about Christians in the West, particularly in democratic countries.

If you look at the US statistics on religious and non-religious groups, there are more crimes committed by Christians than those of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and atheists. Murders and drug are high in the list of those committed by Christians than the other groups.

Looking at stats in Czech Republic, which has a higher population of atheists and yet has lower crime (see America is 80% christian, poland 95%catholic,Czech 70% Atheist. Why Czech has the best morals, lowest crime?).
 

Francine

Well-Known Member
If you look at the US statistics on religious and non-religious groups, there are more crimes committed by Christians than those of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and atheists. Murders and drug are high in the list of those committed by Christians than the other groups.

The crime rate for Christianity is zero, because No True Christian would commit a crime.
 

gnostic

The Lost One
The only true Christians have died almost 2000 years ago, Francine.

Who are the true Christians today? You will get a lot of arguments from different sect. It still doesn't change the figures of how many Christians are in prison for the crimes committed are in prison for in the US, and how it higher than those whom Christians would call godless atheists. It also doesn't change the fact that there are good Christians and bad Christians.

Christians seemed to claim that they are the only one with morality, but the figures speak differently in the real world. In many ways, atheists have more morality than Christians; they don't just believe in any deity, and Christians think that prove the immorality of atheism.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
True. They convert people wo have no sense of religion, or uneducated.

This is a prejudicial statement. It's like saying all those poor people are not educated enough to make decisions for themselves whereas we Westerners who have centuries of experience with a dominant religious philosophy are smart enough to replace that philosophy with what....chiropractors, tarot readers, psychics, crystals, indigo children, rampant irresponsible psychiatry...:shrug:.

Give me the most peaceful religion in the world, make it the most populous and then you will have the most violent religion in the world. I wonder why?

Individuals are persecuted in this world for being Christians. It does not do anyone any favor to belittle that fact.
 

Jistyr

Inquisitive Youngin'
Yeah i do, doesent mean i go round shoving it in peoples faces.
This entire thread has been such an act. You are trying to make it seem as if Christians are over-dramatic and that they profess their beliefs too much, while Hinduism is perfectly innocent.

Like I've already said twice, many more Christians are going to have access to a computer than Hindus or any other religious people, and for that reason, they are most likely to be heard above others when they complain here in masses. There is nothing extraordinarily surprising in this.

This thread is just as bad as any of the ones that it takes issue with.
 
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