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Writer claims Trump raped her
- Thread starter Riders
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Kangaroo Feathers
Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Who'd have guessed?
Didn’t say I had evidence. The legal system still works even if the only evidence is the testimony of the two people involved.
Not really.
She can go to the police and file a report for a crime 30 years old.
They can question Trump about it.
But without evidence it's just her words vs his. I can tell you with 100% confidence that's as far as the law can do without evidence.
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
She stated he neither fully penetrated her nor ejaculated into her, so then, that'd hardly make him a rapist.
Apparently you’ve never heard of civil claims. Abuse cases alleging misconduct that is decades old get filed every day. Some go to trial.
Threads like this are always so productive.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
We have a tape of Trump admitting to raping someone in a dressing room?
Please, I'd love to hear that one. Got a reference?
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry...but you need to reexamine the definition of 'rape.'
According to the US Department of Justice, "rape" is: “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”
Ergo, if that woman speaks truly, it was rape.
That's not the question, though, is it? WHY didn't she report it then? Why didn't she bring this up during his first presidential run? Why now, just when he is beginning his second campaign, AND she's trying to sell a book? There is absolutely no evidence of this incident other than her word...and her word is compromised by her timing.
And yes, I WOULD take this stance even if the accused were the most left wing idiot imaginable and about to get elected, and the accuser were someone I enjoyed listening to because she was funny and extremely conservative...and related to me. This isn't about, at least for me, politics. It's about common sense, and my very healthy sense of skepticism.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
She's not suing him, though, is she?
I don’t know. Maybe she will. Maybe she won’t.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
I don't think she will. The only lawyer on the planet who would represent her is about to go to jail himself for being terminally stupid.
The “dressing room” is the significant point in your mind? Are you actually saying it does not count because he didn’t say “dressing room”?
Don’t play games.
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Yes, it does. That is beyond stupid.
You really think that is a valid defence?
“Your honour, my client is innocent of these rape charges because he was only part way inside her”
Do you have any idea how stupid and offensive you sound.
I know many well respected plaintiff side abuse lawyers.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
Oh, you...
Didn't actually listen to that tape yourself, did you?
I asked you for a tape where Trump admitted to raping a woman in a dressing room. You object because the words 'dressing room' weren't used?
How about the words 'rape,' or 'I had sex,' or something like that?
YOU give us a tape of him using vulgar language and 'admitting' that when a woman said "no," he respected it. It was a story about how he FAILED to 'get' the woman he's talking about, and how her 'no' meant 'no' to him.
That is the precise opposite of an admission that he had raped someone. It's an admission that he FAILED, and did NOT have sex with someone because she said 'no.' Frankly, that tape was a classic case of 'sour grapes' and someone 'getting even' by insulting his 'target' for saying no. That tape shows Trump as a sleaze and a boor, but it absolutely clears him of rape.
I suggest, most sincerely, that you listen to that tape again. Several times, perhaps, until you understand what the words 'fail,' and 'no,' mean.
dianaiad
Well-Known Member
...and I'll bet you just about anything that none of 'em would represent this woman, unless she guaranteed the thousand dollar billable hours, and even then they'd hesitate.
And I don't gamble.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Where is it?