X-rated Pornography in the Bible?

[Me Myself]

1 man gets 72 virgins at his disposal....That is porn! and that is vile. .

o.o no thats not porn.

Porn would be:

Then he took of his pants and held his €€€€ she said "why dont you &&&&&& to me?" Then she leaned closer to him and they started @@@@@@. She ;;;;;;; w
On his ¿¿¿¿¿ , slow at first but then faster as they both accelerated their panting.

" I am totally going to impregnate you! " " oh are you impregnating me bad? " " oh so bad! " he said as they both €€€€€&&&&&&@@@@@@ ;;;;;;;;


You see? Okay, that was really BAD porn xD but then again, it was just an example. Baby making in there doesnt make it non porn. ( and some people are more aroused by that being included)

What makes it porn is it being "graphic" so if you replace the "€€€€€€" it becomes porn.

Also other definitions asrovided here come from the legal department where it is porn if there is no "art" or " social contribution" . Of course, thats subjective too.

 

[muizz99]

and God did not create polygamy... sinful men did.

So what you are saying is that paradise will be full of sinful men carrying on sinful practices right in front of Gods face?

As if he's going to put up with that sort of rubbish!

Exodus 21:10

If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.

What can you say?

 

[Pegg]

Exodus 21:10

If he marries another woman, he must not deprive the first one of her food, clothing and marital rights.

What can you say?

polygamy became a common practice in ancient times...thats what they were doing. It doesnt mean that is what God wanted them to do.

If God instituted polygamy as a normal part of mankind, he would have given Adam more then 1 wife. But he didnt. He gave him one wife....then after mankind became disobedient to God, the sinful men began taking more then one wife

the first man recorded as taking a second was is Lamech...one of the sons of evil Cain who was the first murder....Lamech was also a murderer.

And if you really want to know how God views polygamy, look at what happened when Hagar became a secondary wife to Abraham... God told Abraham to send Hagar away with her child Ishmael. If God was happy with the arrangement, why would he force Abraham to get rid of her and her child?
Genesis 21:14 So Abraham got up early in the morning and took bread and a skin water bottle and gave it to Ha′gar, setting it upon her shoulder, and the child, and then dismissed her. And she went her way and wandered about in the wilderness of Be′er-she′ba

he also outlawed it for the kings of Isreal and wrote it in the mosaic law
Deut 17:17 He should also not multiply wives for himself, that his heart may not turn aside....'


Obviously he doesnt approve.

 

[muizz99]

polygamy became a common practice in ancient times...thats what they were doing. It doesnt mean that is what God wanted them to do.

If God instituted polygamy as a normal part of mankind, he would have given Adam more then 1 wife. But he didnt. He gave him one wife....then after mankind became disobedient to God, the sinful men began taking more then one wife

the first man recorded as taking a second was is Lamech...one of the sons of evil Cain who was the first murder....Lamech was also a murderer.

And if you really want to know how God views polygamy, look at what happened when Hagar became a secondary wife to Abraham... God told Abraham to send Hagar away with her child Ishmael. If God was happy with the arrangement, why would he force Abraham to get rid of her and her child?
Genesis 21:14 So Abraham got up early in the morning and took bread and a skin water bottle and gave it to Ha′gar, setting it upon her shoulder, and the child, and then dismissed her. And she went her way and wandered about in the wilderness of Be′er-she′ba

he also outlawed it for the kings of Isreal and wrote it in the mosaic law
Deut 17:17 He should also not multiply wives for himself, that his heart may not turn aside....'


Obviously he doesnt approve.

Yes. Exactly. Although, the god in the OT allowed polygamy.

1 kings 11:3-4

He had 700 wives, who were princesses, and 300 concubines. And his wives turned away his heart. 4 For when Solomon was old his wives turned away his heart after other gods, and yhis heart was not wholly true to the LORD his God, zas was the heart of David his father.

 

[Me Myself]

If God instituted polygamy as a normal part of mankind, he would have given Adam more then 1 wife. But he didnt. He gave him one wife....then after mankind became disobedient to God, the sinful men began taking more then one wife.

God didnt make them with clothing. Also, God only made the wife after man felt alone, and he never forbid more wives, it was just that there was apparently no particlar need for them (at least for Adam)

If everything that wasnt made by God for humans in Eden is noot good, you are either being very naughty right now or you should teach me how to access RF bia trees

 

[Pegg]

Yes. Exactly. Although, the god in the OT allowed polygamy.

1 kings 11:3-4

He had 700 wives, who were princesses, and 300 concubines. And his wives turned away his heart. 4 For when Solomon was old his wives turned away his heart after other gods, and yhis heart was not wholly true to the LORD his God, zas was the heart of David his father.

King Solomon turned away from the true worship of God.... he disobeyed the law given by moses which stated that the kings.... "should not multiply wives for himself that his heart may not turn aside..." and that is exactly what happened to Solomon. He disobeyed Gods law and his many wives eventually distracted him from the pure worship of God.

1 Kings 11:3 And he came to have seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives gradually inclined his heart.

Nehemiah 13:26 Was it not because of these that Sol′o·mon the king of Israel sinned? And among the many nations there proved to be no king like him; and loved of his God he happened to be, so that God constituted him king over all Israel. Even him the foreign wives caused to sin.

Solomon lost favor with God by accumulating so many wives. He lost Gods approval and so does any man today when he practices polygamy.
Jesus said that it is a form of Adultery to have sexual relations with more then one person....and adulterers are not going to see paradise.

But do it if you want to, (when you get old enough to marry of course lol) but be prepared for the consequences of doing so. If God is not important to you, then do it, if he is important to you, then dont do it.

 

[Me Myself]

The law about many wives was for kings. Pentageuch gives laws for non kings about how to treat their multipple wives.

 

[Me Myself]

Exodus 21:10
English Standard Version (ESV)
10 If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, or her marital rights.

 

[Pegg]

The law about many wives was for kings. Pentageuch gives laws for non kings about how to treat their multipple wives.

yes because in ancient times, polygamy was a common practice and the hebrews were already practicing polygamy before God gave them his laws.

So he regulated it to make it more fair to those women who were already part of polygamous families. he gave laws to protect their rights to inheritance and the rights of their children to inheritence....he didnt allow the isrealites to practice it the way they wanted. He made it more difficult for them to practice it by putting stricter rules in place.

Anyway, Jesus is the messiah, he is the one who teaches men what is proper and he said it was a form of adultery to sleep with more then one woman, or even to divorce and marry another... so let people do what they want, but be prepared to suffer the consequences when you do.

 

[Me Myself]

yes because in ancient times, polygamy was a common practice and the hebrews were already practicing polygamy before God gave them his laws.

So he regulated it to make it more fair to those women who were already part of polygamous families. he gave laws to protect their rights to inheritance and the rights of their children to inheritence....he didnt allow the isrealites to practice it the way they wanted. He made it more difficult for them to practice it by putting stricter rules in place.

Anyway, Jesus is the messiah, he is the one who teaches men what is proper and he said it was a form of adultery to sleep with more then one woman, or even to divorce and marry another... so let people do what they want, but be prepared to suffer the consequences when you do.

You ll have to quote your bible here, cause I dont know where do you think Jesus says polygamy is off the table.

 

[Pegg]

You ll have to quote your bible here, cause I dont know where do you think Jesus says polygamy is off the table.

Matthew 19:3 And Pharisees came up to him, intent on tempting him and saying: “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on every sort of ground?” 4 In reply he said: “Did YOU not read that he who created them from [the] beginning made them male and female 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’? 6 So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.”

He says 'the two become one' therefore let no man change that. What God has yolked together, "let no man put apart" or change.

Also, regarding remarriage, he said: "I say to you that whoever divorces his wife except on the grounds of fornication and marries another commits adultery.’”—Matt. 19:3-9;

And this is why the christians began to promote monogamy over polygamy. They banned the practice of polygamy among themselves because they viewed it as a form of adultery.

 

[McBell]

Matthew 19:3 And Pharisees came up to him, intent on tempting him and saying: “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on every sort of ground?” 4 In reply he said: “Did YOU not read that he who created them from [the] beginning made them male and female 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’? 6 So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.”

He says 'the two become one' therefore let no man change that. What God has yolked together, "let no man put apart" or change.

Also, regarding remarriage, he said: "I say to you that whoever divorces his wife except on the grounds of fornication and marries another commits adultery.’”—Matt. 19:3-9;

And this is why the christians began to promote monogamy over polygamy. They banned the practice of polygamy among themselves because they viewed it as a form of adultery.

Perhaps you did not understand the question?
Where in the Bible, or anywhere else for that matter, does Jesus say that polygamy is off the table?

 

[ChristineES]

Genesis 19:30-38

Lot and his two daughters left Zoar and settled in the mountains, for he was afraid to
stay in Zoar. He and his two daughters lived
in a cave. One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there
is no man around here to give us children—as
is the custom all over the earth. Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with
him and preserve our family line through our
father.”

That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and
slept with him. He was not aware of it when
she lay down or when she got up.

The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my
father. Let’s get him to drink wine again
tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so
we can preserve our family line through our
father.” So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger
daughter went in and slept with him. Again he
was not aware of it when she lay down or
when she got up.

So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab [a]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi; he is the father of the Ammonites[c] of today.

Thats the porn. And its not parable.

I wouldn't call that porn. Sex in literature is not necessarily porn.

 

[Me Myself]

Perhaps you did not understand the question?
Where in the Bible, or anywhere else for that matter, does Jesus say that polygamy is off the table?

I am glad that someone understood the question

Matthew 19:3 And Pharisees came up to him, intent on tempting him and saying: “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on every sort of ground?” 4 In reply he said: “Did YOU not read that he who created them from [the] beginning made them male and female 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’? 6 So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together let no man put apart.”

He says 'the two become one' therefore let no man change that. What God has yolked together, "let no man put apart" or change.

Also, regarding remarriage, he said: "I say to you that whoever divorces his wife except on the grounds of fornication and marries another commits adultery.’”—Matt. 19:3-9;

And this is why the christians began to promote monogamy over polygamy. They banned the practice of polygamy among themselves because they viewed it as a form of adultery.

I am not talking about divorce, or about "putting apart" a man from his wife, I am not talking about divorce.

If the man divorced the woman before marrying another one, that wouldnt be polygamy would it?

 

[muizz99]

King Solomon turned away from the true worship of God.... he disobeyed the law given by moses which stated that the kings.... "should not multiply wives for himself that his heart may not turn aside..." and that is exactly what happened to Solomon. He disobeyed Gods law and his many wives eventually distracted him from the pure worship of God.

1 Kings 11:3 And he came to have seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines; and his wives gradually inclined his heart.

Nehemiah 13:26 Was it not because of these that Sol′o·mon the king of Israel sinned? And among the many nations there proved to be no king like him; and loved of his God he happened to be, so that God constituted him king over all Israel. Even him the foreign wives caused to sin.

Solomon lost favor with God by accumulating so many wives. He lost Gods approval and so does any man today when he practices polygamy.
Jesus said that it is a form of Adultery to have sexual relations with more then one person....and adulterers are not going to see paradise.

But do it if you want to, (when you get old enough to marry of course lol) but be prepared for the consequences of doing so. If God is not important to you, then do it, if he is important to you, then dont do it.

Islam and Polygamy

Quran 4:3

And if you fear that you will not deal justly
with the orphan girls, then marry those that
please you of [other] women, two or three or
four. But if you fear that you will not be
just, then [marry only] one or those your
right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

 

[Pegg]

If the man divorced the woman before marrying another one, that wouldnt be polygamy would it?

no, thats called adultery.

 

[Pegg]

Islam and Polygamy

Quran 4:3

And if you fear that you will not deal justly
with the orphan girls, then marry those that
please you of [other] women, two or three or
four. But if you fear that you will not be
just, then [marry only] one or those your
right hand possesses. That is more suitable that you may not incline [to injustice].

Christianity and Monogomy
1Timothy 3:2"...The overseer should therefore be irreprehensible, a husband of one wife, . . . a man presiding over his own household in a right manner..."

1Timothy 3:12 Let ministerial servants be husbands of one wife, presiding in a fine manner over children and their own households. 13 For the men who minister in a fine manner are acquiring for themselves a fine standing and great freeness of speech in the faith in connection with Christ Jesus.

Titus 1:6 if there is any man free from accusation, a husband of one wife, having believing children that were not under a charge of debauchery nor unruly. 7 For an overseer must be free from accusation as God’s steward, not self-willed, not prone to wrath, not a drunken brawler, not a smiter, not greedy of dishonest gain, 8 but hospitable, a lover of goodness, sound in mind, righteous, loyal, self-controlled, 9 holding firmly to the faithful word as respects his [art of] teaching, that he may be able both to exhort by the teaching that is healthful and to reprove those who contradict

You'll notice that in the christian congregation, only those men who were practicing monogomy were 'free from accusation'.... this is because christians believed that Jesus teachings about marriage pointed to monogamy....and this is why monogomy is the norm in christian nations today.

 

[Me Myself]

no, thats called adultery.

Are you paying attention to yourself?

Yes, we both can see Jesus said that is adultery. Now again:

where did Jesus say poligamy was forbidden?

 

[Pegg]

Are you paying attention to yourself?

Yes, we both can see Jesus said that is adultery. Now again:

where did Jesus say poligamy was forbidden?

Matthew 19:4-6, 9 clearly states Jesus view that taking additional wives is also adultery. Therefore Polygamy (which is the taking of additional wives) is also a form of adultery. Did Jesus say that it was acceptable to commit adultery? No.

not even Islam thinks its acceptable to commit adultery.

 

[Me Myself]

Matthew 19:4-6, 9 clearly states Jesus view that taking additional wives is also adultery. Therefore Polygamy (which is the taking of additional wives) is also a form of adultery. Did Jesus say that it was acceptable to commit adultery? No.

not even Islam thinks its acceptable to commit adultery.

Your definition of "clearly" is rather wide I see.

Ther eis no prohibition in that verse, it ismerely a description of when a man leaves his parents and that that relationship is irrevocable.

It says nothing about multiple partners, either pro or against.