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Yadavas Hebrews farmers. How come Jews thought Hebrews were slaves?

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
The emancipation from a central authority to the capability of the people to be good based on a set of quality rules (the commandments).
First four commandments have brought havoc to the world. The rest six existed even before any God dictated them to Moses.
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
The biblical cisterns were made in outlying areas as in the narrative of abraham. Covered by stone. Closed and reopened. Nothing like that here. Also, can you help with the Hebrew word and it's meaning, please.
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala
I never heard of cisterns and was amazed when reading the website about how these cisterns collect rainwater. This is so interesting.

"never tried to block light" --- think I might push back on that one .. perhaps you can explain how the caste system was adopted by Hindus

@Aupmanyav @crossfire @Sargonski @Bthoth @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

I'm going to see if I can clarify. This is about me getting spiritually fed. I wasn't seeking to block light. I was explaining how I go to light to get spiritually fed.

What I was trying to articulate is at times I need to learn how within my situations, I allow Allah-light to teach me how. I'm running out of words to explain. I've never been to India.

When expressing about getting spiritually fed, I wasn't at all writing about the cast system. I did find a YouTube video because I heard the chanting of the words that @Aupmanyav was sharing, so I shared the video. My goal in that message was to interact as well as explain that I'm focusing more on getting spiritually fed, and I was using words to explain this.

If any of you all have any advice on what words I could use so all people comprehend, let me know

Exactly. Physics and electromagnetic fields are my specialty. I have written papers well beyond what you will find in scientific books.

I am the guy that conveys that light (em) is how molecules combine even if the basics of the scope was expressed by bohr almost 100 yrs ago.

Photo Neuron Conduction (PNC theory) was my first offering of 1982.

@Bthoth can I see your written papers well only if you want to.

I found this YouTube video as I looked up photo neuron conduction (PNC theory).

However, so far, I have only learned about neurons from this Youtube video.
2-Minute Neuroscience: The Neuron
 
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Bthoth

Well-Known Member
@Bthoth can I see your written papers well only if you want to.

I found this YouTube video as I looked up photo neuron conduction (PNC theory).

However, so far, I have only learned about neurons from this Youtube video.
2-Minute Neuroscience: The Neuron
I do not have PNC in a digital format. Back when I wrote it, I submitted via mail and had a bunch of replies but at the time, the approach was real esoteric as few combined physiology with physics or combining chemical reactions of neurons with the scope of photons. I was working at the molecular level. The work started trying to learn/understand alzheimers and the plaque structures and i realized that the energy exchanges within the neurons were within microtubules.

To this day the majority in the field still consider the neural exchanges as electrical signals.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
When expressing about getting spiritually fed, I wasn't at all writing about the cast system. I did find a YouTube video because I heard the chanting of the words that @Aupmanyav was sharing, so I shared the video. My goal in that message was to interact as well as explain that I'm focusing more on getting spiritually fed, and I was using words to explain this.

2-Minute Neuroscience: The Neuron
That is perfectly OK, River Sea. I am an atheist and also a Hindu and much influenced by Buddha. I get wisdom from Science, Hindu philosophies and Buddha, and not from any God or messenger.
My education in science is limited (Bachelors), but at one time I topped in the subject of Neurology.
 

River Sea

Well-Known Member
The reason for this post is to combine what I learned from @Bthoth and @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Exodus from the Indus Valley, India, to Levant areas that include Israel—that's actually Egypt.

No Exodus from Egypt due to land increased, so remains of Egypt land which also covered what's known as Israel today.

(Israeli people of RA and EL) RA, god of Egypt. EL, god of Israel.

Countries' borders change.

Comprehending lands from BC to today, and do words confuse us due to word changes?

Is-RA-EL (Israel) or (Yisrael, the Hebrew way of saying Israel) The name Yisrael means God contended: Jacob wrestled with God's angel, earning him the name Yisrael. It is from the remembrances of Jacob that the name Yisrael's land came. So when thinking of this land, they think of the remembrances of what Jacob went through—his wrestling with God's angel.

It seems there are so many ways for stories to pass down; even each letter has a story attached. Is this past generation feeling the need to pass down stories so much that they attach stories to even land? Then, to protect it, they must box it with borders. As people will fight to keep as another form to wrestle with?

RA Egyptian god, EL Hebrew god (Israeli people of RA and EL), the Hebrews wrestle with god when claiming themselves as Israelites and creating their borders to claim Jacob who wrestle with God's angel.

They're wrestling with God's angel, which is what these people are saying when they say this word Israeli, because they'll connect spiritually with Jacob, who went through wrestling.

Did the Egyptians feel they were wrestling with RA's angel, and the wrestling continued as they didn't exit (Exodus) their land of Egypt because their land increased and covered Israel as this wrestling continued, yet names changed from RA's angel to EL's angel?

Was wrestling also happening earlier, before leaving the Indus Valley, when the Yadavas, who later became Hebrews, wrestled with Brahman's angel? And through this wrestling that continued, the Exodus from the Indus Valley (India) happened due to no longer expanding land from India but leaving this land, as they brought with them memories of Jacob and also brought Joseph's bones with them.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala showed Yadavas left the Indus Valley (India), and eventually this name Yadavas was changed to the name Hebrews, and they eventually arrived in Israel, as they brought with spiritually Jacob wrestling with God's angel.

@Bthoth shows that Egypt has no Exodus yet a new kingdom as further lands became the Levant, and this includes the land of Israel. So therefore, Hebrews are Egyptians, who, according to @Bharat Jhunjhunwala were once Yadavas from the Indus Valley (India). Yes, I'm combining @Bthoth and @Bharat Jhunjhunwala research.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
The reason for this post is to combine what I learned from @Bthoth and @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Exodus from the Indus Valley, India, to Levant areas that include Israel—that's actually Egypt.

No Exodus from Egypt due to land increased, so remains of Egypt land which also covered what's known as Israel today.

(Israeli people of RA and EL) RA, god of Egypt. EL, god of Israel.

Countries' borders change.

Comprehending lands from BC to today, and do words confuse us due to word changes?

Is-RA-EL (Israel) or (Yisrael, the Hebrew way of saying Israel) The name Yisrael means God contended: Jacob wrestled with God's angel, earning him the name Yisrael. It is from the remembrances of Jacob that the name Yisrael's land came. So when thinking of this land, they think of the remembrances of what Jacob went through—his wrestling with God's angel.

It seems there are so many ways for stories to pass down; even each letter has a story attached. Is this past generation feeling the need to pass down stories so much that they attach stories to even land? Then, to protect it, they must box it with borders. As people will fight to keep as another form to wrestle with?

RA Egyptian god, EL Hebrew god (Israeli people of RA and EL), the Hebrews wrestle with god when claiming themselves as Israelites and creating their borders to claim Jacob who wrestle with God's angel.

They're wrestling with God's angel, which is what these people are saying when they say this word Israeli, because they'll connect spiritually with Jacob, who went through wrestling.

Did the Egyptians feel they were wrestling with RA's angel, and the wrestling continued as they didn't exit (Exodus) their land of Egypt because their land increased and covered Israel as this wrestling continued, yet names changed from RA's angel to EL's angel?

Was wrestling also happening earlier, before leaving the Indus Valley, when the Yadavas, who later became Hebrews, wrestled with Brahman's angel? And through this wrestling that continued, the Exodus from the Indus Valley (India) happened due to no longer expanding land from India but leaving this land, as they brought with them memories of Jacob and also brought Joseph's bones with them.

@Bharat Jhunjhunwala showed Yadavas left the Indus Valley (India), and eventually this name Yadavas was changed to the name Hebrews, and they eventually arrived in Israel, as they brought with spiritually Jacob wrestling with God's angel.

@Bthoth shows that Egypt has no Exodus yet a new kingdom as further lands became the Levant, and this includes the land of Israel. So therefore, Hebrews are Egyptians, who, according to @Bharat Jhunjhunwala were once Yadavas from the Indus Valley (India). Yes, I'm combining @Bthoth and @Bharat Jhunjhunwala research.
Set was the only deity worshiped by the Hyksos (Asiatic) Pharaoh/King Apepi (Apophis). Every night, Set would wrestle with Apep, the Serpent of Chaos which would try to thwart Ra's journey through the Duat (underworld) every night. It's interesting that Jacob wrestled the angel all through the night as well.
 
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IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The reason for this post is to combine what I learned from @Bthoth and @Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Exodus from the Indus Valley, India, to Levant areas that include Israel—that's actually Egypt.
When you say Exodus, are you talking about the Exodus of Jews from slavery in Egypt, as per the Bible? Because that story is not connected with Indus Valley at all. Zero. I realize that there are a few people from India that desire to make everything in the world about India, but it is transparently irrational and disgustingly ethnocentric. Of course, most Indians are not like that.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Thank you for the additional information.
I might do some research to see if the pillars of the mesektet barque were ever associated with a pillar of cloud and a pillar of fire, just because it's interesting...
mesektet.jpg
 

Bharat Jhunjhunwala

TruthPrevails
When you say Exodus, are you talking about the Exodus of Jews from slavery in Egypt, as per the Bible? Because that story is not connected with Indus Valley at all. Zero. I realize that there are a few people from India that desire to make everything in the world about India, but it is transparently irrational and disgustingly ethnocentric. Of course, most Indians are not like that.
There is no EGYPT in the Bible. The name is Mitsrayim. Egypt was known as KMT before 1400 bce. Where mitsrayim was located requires matching with geography.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
There is no EGYPT in the Bible. The name is Mitsrayim. Egypt was known as KMT before 1400 bce. Where mitsrayim was located requires matching with geography.
Here is a sample from the Amarna letters (EA 045) to the King of Egypt where the land of Egypt is called Misrimi in line 27:
Amarna EA 45 Ugarit Misrimi.png
 
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Bharat Jhunjhunwala

TruthPrevails
Mitzrayim is the Hebrew word for EGYPT in English.
The exodus took place from MATHURA aka M.T.R from india 1446 bce and that name entered west Asian vocabulary. It may be transposed on Egypt 1446 bce. No M.T.R in West asia before that. The choice is between the name dropping from the sky in West asia vs being rooted in india.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
The exodus took place from MATHURA aka M.T.R from india 1446 bce and that name entered west Asian vocabulary. It may be transposed on Egypt 1446 bce. No M.T.R in West asia before that. The choice is between the name dropping from the sky in West asia vs being rooted in india.
Look, I'm making a very simple comment that doesn't even require a response. Quote:
Mitzrayim is the Hebrew word for EGYPT in English.
That means the story of the Exodus in the book of Genesis is referring to Egypt, not to anyplace in India or elsewhere in the world.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
The exodus took place from MATHURA aka M.T.R from india 1446 bce and that name entered west Asian vocabulary. It may be transposed on Egypt 1446 bce. No M.T.R in West asia before that. The choice is between the name dropping from the sky in West asia vs being rooted in india.
Even the Amarna letters from the time period of the exodus TO THE KING OF EGYPT repeatedly call the land of Egypt Mi-is-ri-mi. The Egyptian pharaoh wasn't in India, and the letters themselves were found in Egypt. It looks pretty conclusive to me.

Edit to add:
The Egyptians called the fertile Nile Valley "Kemet" (or more fully tꜣ km.t.,) The Black Land, whereas they called the desert The Red Land, or "Deshret."

The Egyptian empire contained both the Black Land and the Red Land. They lived mostly in the Black Land.
 
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