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Yadavas Hebrews farmers. How come Jews thought Hebrews were slaves?

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Sargonski

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Aupmanyav said:
Why are people Scots, Italian, French, Spanish? This shows their derivation, region, religion too, tradition, professions, etc. Caste also is similar. There are Maithil Brahmins, shows their origin from a particular part of India, shows that they may not be averse to non-veg. food which brahmins will not generally partake, their language will be Bhojpuri. Similarly, Jats. They are from Punjab, Haryana, Rajasthan and Western Uttar Pradesh. They are generally agriculturists. What I mean is that caste may not be a bad thing unless discrimination is practiced. People care about how they are identified. We have made discrimination illegal (five years in jail). Caste can continue. Actually, now it is a way to identify people to whom 'Affirmative action' is provided.

India had many migrants, invaders, has many tribes. Each wanted to keep their identity and traditions intact. India and Hinduism allowed them to do so. We did not make then melt into each other. We are like a stained glass window. The colors do not loose their identity but together make it varied and beautiful. Take for example, how many kinds of Jews we have in India. Each group came to India in a different period and from a different country: Cochin Jews, Madras Jews, Nagercoil Jews, Goan Jews, Baghdadi Jews, Bnei Manashe, Bene Israel, Bene Ephraim and Polish Jews.

History of the Jews in India - Wikipedia

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Yes - but folks from some castes are considered less than human "Untouchables" --- this is not light, but darkness - and has little to do with folks being "Scots, Italian or French"

You failed to address your claim "Hindoo's never block the Light" -- Here we have an example - The Caste System - of major light blockage by Hindoo's.
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Caste system is at least 3,000 years old and it will take time to be eradicated. However, we have made legal help available for cases of discrimination. At one time the rule was so stricts that a person accused of caste discrimination was arrested without any further investigation. It is a Hindu majority parliament which is making all these changes since the last 75 years. We cannot change history.
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Bthoth said:
Describing natural processes is literally describing god. Combining disciplines is what the unveiling fulfills.
simply put: Mankind is of nature, describing itself.
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The word God carries with it strife, falsehood and superstitions. Panentheists should avoid that.
Do you believe that Jesus was breathed in by the Ghost in a virgin girl? Or that he resurrected after death?
 
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Bthoth

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Aupmanyav said:
The word God carries with it strife, falsehood and superstitions. Panentheists should avoid that.
Do you believe that Jesus was breathed in by the Ghost in a virgin girl? Or that he resurrected after death?
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No and hell no.

Do you believe a hairy christna was born from an elephant?

Lots of story telling and story tellers.
 
Aupmanyav

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Bthoth said:
No and hell no.
Do you believe a hairy christna was born from an elephant?
Lots of story telling and story tellers.
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That is a new one. No, I have neither heard it, nor I believe it.
Denounce those who created the false stories and fooled people.
 
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Bthoth

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Aupmanyav said:
That is a new one. No, I have neither heard it, nor I believe it.
Denounce those who created the false stories and fooled people.
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Many stories have been embellished over time. For example: Jesus claiming that what he said is true, turned into must believe he is god. The religious adherents, preachers, teachers embellish at most every weekly sermon. Then come the next generations, the followers begin to believe the claims (embellishments).

How to denounce the creators of the false stories is practically impossible to apply. My personal choice, is to appreciate the wisdom of the material over the embellishments. For example: rather than an exodus FROM egypt that bleeds over to slavery, evil pharaoh, to god causing plagues and then a promised land. The emancipation from a central authority to the capability of the people to be good based on a set of quality rules (the commandments) Without a huge plethora of gods, and specialized teachers telling them how to with the multiple opinions of each new group of teachers having their own requirements.
 
crossfire

crossfire

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You have the caste system coming from one area, and circumcision coming from the other area. Both traditions are very old and have persisted for thousands of years. The Jews picked up circumcision, not the caste system, so I suspect they were in Egypt and not in India.
 
Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Bharat Jhunjhunwala

TruthPrevails
crossfire said:
You have the caste system coming from one area, and circumcision coming from the other area. Both traditions are very old and have persisted for thousands of years. The Jews picked up circumcision, not the caste system, so I suspect they were in Egypt and not in India.
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What is the proof outside the Bible for circumcisions in Egypt? I may be ignorant.
 
Bharat Jhunjhunwala

Bharat Jhunjhunwala

TruthPrevails
crossfire said:
You have the caste system coming from one area, and circumcision coming from the other area. Both traditions are very old and have persisted for thousands of years. The Jews picked up circumcision, not the caste system, so I suspect they were in Egypt and not in India.
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Cannot find 647
 
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Sargonski

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Bharat Jhunjhunwala said:
Cannot generalize. An individual matter.
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Yes we can generalize (not that I was) and is not an individual matter .. the caste system requires many engaging in blocking of the light .. simultaneously .. and thus .. we know for a fact we have some minimum number of individuals acting against the light - engaging in light blockage. This fact contradicts the claim that no one in Group X acts against the light.
 
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Eli G

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According to the Bible, Jehovah God made circumcision mandatory for Abraham in 1919 B.C.E., a year before Isaac’s birth. God said: “This is my covenant that you men will keep . . . Every male of yours must get circumcised.” Every male in Abraham’s household of both his descendants and dependents was included, and so Abraham, his 13-year-old son Ishmael, and all his slaves took upon themselves this “sign of the covenant.” New slaves brought in also had to be circumcised. From then on, any male of the household, slave or free, was to be circumcised the eighth day after birth. Disregard for this divine requirement was punishable by death.—Ge 17:1, 9-14, 23-27.

Circumcision was practiced in Egypt, as is illustrated in wall paintings and observed in mummies, but it is uncertain when it was first introduced in that country and to what extent it was performed. Some say that Joseph as food administrator introduced this practice to Egypt.

About the circumcision W. M. Thomson says in The Land and the Book, revised by J. Grande, 1910, p. 593:

“As to the testimony of Herodotus, who came into Egypt fifteen centuries after, and, with great learning and research, often writes a good deal of nonsense, I refuse utterly to put it in the same category with that of Moses. The great founder of the Jewish commonwealth—the greatest lawgiver on record—born and bred in Egypt, states the facts in relation to the introduction of circumcision among his people. A mere traveller and historian—a foreigner and a Greek—comes along very much later, and makes statements which are partly true, partly erroneous, as Josephus shows in his answer to Apion; and then sceptical authors, more than twenty centuries later than Herodotus, bring up his imperfect statements, and, twisting and expanding them, attempt to prove that Abraham did not receive circumcision from God (as Moses plainly says he did), but from the Egyptians! Not with such weapons can the veracity of Moses be successfully assailed.”

More in https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000977
 
crossfire

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Bharat Jhunjhunwala said:
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Yadavas Hebrews farmers. How come Jews thought Hebrews were slaves?

i find that much of the judaic belief system incorporated the ideology of egypt into torah @Bthoth can you tell me some judaic belief system that's incorporated the ideology of Egypt into Torah, and how do you think this happened? I read that Moses was murdered. Freud and Monotheism: Moses...
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Bharat Jhunjhunwala said:
Bible only tells of place names. Not where they were located.
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The article has the location. It is certain that Tel-Dothan is the location of the Biblical Dothan. There are a whole bunch of cisterns there.
 
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